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Offline Mr Magic

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #15 on: April 17, 2014, 10:27:04 AM »
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2014, 11:46:04 AM »
Moneyball doesnt work

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2014, 11:49:51 AM »
Hawthorn?

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #18 on: April 17, 2014, 12:41:36 PM »
Hawthorn?

Read the article. Hawthorn have taken the strategy of trading high picks for gun players. It's not "moneyball".

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #19 on: April 17, 2014, 12:51:53 PM »
my guess is most people have little or no understanding of what moneyball actually is
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2014, 12:52:49 PM »
Yes it seems Hawthorn have taken the strategy of 'being a good club', whereas we have gone down the 'lets continue to wallow in poo' path. Be interesting to see who wins out.

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2014, 12:57:15 PM »
Here's Hartley implementing his moneyball strategy last trade period.
Always hard for him to contain his excitement at that time of the year.


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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2014, 12:59:42 PM »
Yes it seems Hawthorn have taken the strategy of 'being a good club', whereas we have gone down the 'lets continue to wallow in poo' path. Be interesting to see who wins out.
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2014, 01:09:18 PM »
Hawthorn?

Are you autistic?

my guess is most people have little or no understanding of what moneyball actually is

An irrelevent seppo concept that was applied to the non-conact sport of Baseball in a league with no salary cap by a team that's still yet to actually win anything from it and adapted to the full-body contact sport of Australian Rules Football in a league with a salary cap by a team that's still yet to win anything from it and now looks to be going backwards largely due to it.
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2014, 01:16:44 PM »
on that i rest my case
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2014, 01:28:39 PM »
on that i rest my case

You need to actually have one first.
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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2014, 02:06:04 PM »
Moneyball doesnt work

It kinda works in baseball.  It gets teams to the playoffs and increases revenues from games, but it's questionable whether it can deliver championships.

As a drafting strategy, out of the A's top 20 picks in the 2002 draft, there are only 3 players who had successful careers - Nick Swisher, Joe Blanton and John Baker.

That's a 15% success rate.




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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2014, 03:07:30 PM »
on that i rest my case

You need to actually have one first.
oh?
you're saying that most people actually do understand moneyball? - it's underlying principle, how and why it came about, why it was actually sucessfull for the Athletics (in that they outperformed many clubs with a bigger budget, but ultimately couldnt compete with those that had basically endless money pits) and what aspects may or may not be relevant to AFL?

do tell........
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2014, 04:24:26 PM »
Moneyball is no good for clubs in AFL Footy and its also for clubs who want to be stingy with money so they go and get average C grade players on cheap salaries and at a cheap cost and hope for the best. Richmonds next Premiership will be 174 years away at this rate. Its a stuffen joke. The supporters and sponsors plough $50 million a year into the club and all we get is crap in return.

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Re: Tigers pin hopes on Moneyball buys (David King in Herald-Sun)
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2014, 04:34:35 PM »
exhibit b
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
So are my ways higher than your ways,
And my thoughts than your thoughts."

Yahweh? or the great Clawski?

yaw rehto eht dellorcs ti fi daer ot reisae eb dluow tI