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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2014, 08:22:51 AM »
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9  :shh
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2014, 09:18:28 AM »
The HUN has been decidedly anti Richmond this week. Nice trolling by Robbo.
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2014, 09:30:17 AM »
lmao .. he wont be a premiership captain... not with us.. especially if dimma  remains


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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2014, 12:32:01 PM »
lmao .. he wont be a premiership captain... not with us.. especially if dimma  remains
I'm not sure he s contracted to cotch retirement age  ::) :banghead :wallywink :whistle
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2014, 01:05:19 PM »
FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!

Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.

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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2014, 03:08:27 PM »
FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!

Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.

Agree. Though GC & GWS coming in and hoarding all the top kids at the same time it was introduced wasn't ideal for the bottom clubs. Still, no excuse for a predicament we've entirely put ourselves in.
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2014, 03:27:14 PM »
Really don't like the GWS GCS excuses for why we recruited poorly.  Port were bottom same time.  They had no trouble recruiting and trading for quality players.  A great coach will attract great people and they will build the team around them.  The expansion clubs offer a unique opportunity to steal the best talent in the game.  It should be looked at that way.  No way we would have gained Miles otherwise.  Even then, we didn't want to play him.....

Tigers need to trade aggressively while players have value.  Quickest way to build the list.  If we can get a good deal for Cotchin, we should take it.

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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 04:10:40 PM »
Really don't like the GWS GCS excuses for why we recruited poorly.  Port were bottom same time.  They had no trouble recruiting and trading for quality players.  A great coach will attract great people and they will build the team around them.  The expansion clubs offer a unique opportunity to steal the best talent in the game.  It should be looked at that way.  No way we would have gained Miles otherwise.  Even then, we didn't want to play him.....

Tigers need to trade aggressively while players have value.  Quickest way to build the list.  If we can get a good deal for Cotchin, we should take it.

Hence why I said "still, no excuse....."
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2014, 04:58:51 PM »
FA is a joke!
Surely it wasn't designed for 24/25 year olds to be able to move around this easy. Clubs put so much into these kids just to see them hold them to ransom the minute they can.
It should be designed for the 28/29 year olds (10 years of service to a club) at the end of their careers to move on either to maybe play in a premiership or to get better opportunities if not quite getting a regular game for their current club..
All it's doing is driving up prices of players in the middle of their careers.
Trent Cotchin should not have the right to move on at the end of next year, unless it's through a trade and the club has some say in what it gets in return.
AFL have f?$ked this up!

Disagree. Free Agency is not a joke. Its our only hope as a football club, sadly our clubs administration dont know how to work the system properly. Other clubs target stars and we target players available from the Brotherhood Bins. Its not the fault of Free Agency, it is 100% the fault of Richmond FC its administrators and Football Department who just dont know how to compete properly for the best players or manage the clubs list management strategy properly.
I like the idea of it but I think it should only be for players with 10 years service to a club. Then I think they have earned the right to make a call on where they want to finish their careers.
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 07:28:15 PM »
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9  :shh

Really?

Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?

He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.

And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2014, 07:43:47 PM »
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #41 on: June 27, 2014, 02:59:11 AM »
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9  :shh

Really?

Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?

He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.

And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul

Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing

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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #42 on: June 27, 2014, 06:53:48 AM »
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9  :shh

Really?

Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?

He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.

And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul

Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing

Yeah and Fyfe re-signed yesterday for less money than being offered on the east coast

And BTW Cotchin is currently our highest paid player so I don't think he is living on poverty street  ;D
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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #43 on: June 27, 2014, 11:10:53 AM »
There's no story here, does anyone really think cotch would cash in his destiny of being a premiership captain of one the worlds great clubs for the public shame that would go with conceding it was all too hard and riding on the coat tails of success elsewhere.....you underestimate cotch, yep the bloke that ditched the no 17 and said he wanted to make his own history in no 9  :shh

Really?

Then why did he only sign last year for 2 years instead of the 4/5 yrs that was on the table?

He will re-sign no doubt but could have avoided all this crap if committed long term last year.

And he wants to avoid the circus that's coming up he should tell his manager to get the deal done now so as a leader he makes a statement to his team mates that he is there for the long haul

Kid needs money and who blames him. P.S Fyfe has done the same thing

Yeah and Fyfe re-signed yesterday for less money than being offered on the east coast

And BTW Cotchin is currently our highest paid player so I don't think he is living on poverty street  ;D

Team success translates to decision making too. Freo have been building since Lyon took over and they played in the GF last year we have been building for four years to crumble this year and be non competitive for the next 3. You can't help but understand why top shelf players don't come to RFC.

The best players want to be on the biggest stages not at RFC v GWS at Etihad in front of less than 15K at 1:10 on a Sunday in dreary July whilst on the same Collingwood play Hawthorn at 3:20 in front of 80K at the MCG.. :help

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Re: Hawthorn inquires about Trent Cotchin's contract status (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #44 on: June 27, 2014, 01:07:57 PM »
Hence why I said "still, no excuse....."

Completely agree Diocletian.

We should have gone hard at the trade table last year while we looked like a team on the up.  Will be a fair bit more challenging to trade for players now without some huge off field changes.

I don't think Cotchin is a guarantee to stay.  Never seems like his heart is at the tigers.  Very conservative footballer.  Players like Riewoldt and Deledio, you know they bleed Richmond (irrespective of their performances).  Never had that feeling about Cotchin.