Author Topic: When we make the finals who should we play ? (OER OFFICIAL FINALS THREAD)  (Read 9733 times)

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only got one sentence which makes a change.
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Pros and Cons from the weekend. We made up a game on 8th spot and all but one of the results of the other games went our way. On the other hand, the Crows and Eagles gaining major percentage boosters means we'll need them both to drop another game to be able to jump ahead of both of them (on top of us needing to beat Adelaide as well).


The key non-RFC games we need to go our way are:
R22 - North def. Adel down in Hobart.
R23 - Haw def. Coll

Any of these doesn't happen and we've got zero chance of making it.

This week's Ess vs WCE at Etihad can help us either way but Essendon winning would make it easier as we wouldn't have to rely on % (ours is much higher now than the Pies).


Rich:    Adel, St K, Syd

Coll:     Bris, GWS, Haw

Ess:     WCE, GC, Carl

GC:      Port, Ess, WCE

Adel:    Rich, North, St K

WCE:    Ess, Melb, GC

This would give:
7. Ess   13 wins
8. Rich  12 wins
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9. Coll   12 wins (lower %)
10. WCE 11 wins
11. Adel  11 wins
12. GC     10 wins

If the Eagles were to win then we want them to win big to lower Essendon's percentage below ours.

Rich:    Adel, St K, Syd

Coll:     Bris, GWS, Haw

Ess:     WCE, GC, Carl

GC:      Port, Ess, WCE

Adel:    Rich, North, St K

WCE:    Ess, Melb, GC

That alternatively would give:
7. WCE   12 wins
8. Rich   12 wins
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9. Ess    12 wins (lower %)
10. Coll   12 wins (lower %)
11. Adel  11 wins
12. GC     10 wins



So the odds are still against us even if we were to win all of our games. We still rely on too many other results going our way.

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Can Richmond or West Coast make the eight? (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #107 on: August 12, 2014, 03:04:36 AM »
Can Richmond or West Coast make the eight? Check out your club’s run home

Matt Windley
Herald-Sun
August 12, 2014


THREE weeks to go — it’s crunch time now.

Round 21 could sort the men from the boys, but it could also throw the race for the eight more wide open than it ever has been before. MATT WINDLEY casts his eye over your club’s run to the finals.

12. RICHMOND

36pts 104.1%

R21: Adelaide (Adelaide Oval) W

R22: St Kilda (MCG) W

R23: Sydney (ANZ) L

MATT SAYS: Massive, massive, massive game against Adelaide this Saturday night. If Richmond wins then the finals dream is still well and truly alive. If the Tigers lose then it’s curtains for 2014.

MATT WINDLEY’S PREDICTED LADDER

1. Sydney 18-4
2. Hawthorn 17-5
3. Geelong 17-5
4. Fremantle 16-6
5. Port Adelaide 14-8
6. North Melbourne 14-8
7. Essendon 13-9
8. Collingwood 12-10
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9. West Coast 11-11
10. Adelaide 11-11
11. Richmond 11-11
12. Gold Coast 10-12
13. Western Bulldogs 8-14
14. Carlton 7-15
15. Brisbane Lions 6-16
16. GWS 5-17
17. Melbourne 4-18
18. St Kilda 4-18

http://www.news.com.au/sport/can-richmond-or-west-coast-make-the-eight-check-out-your-clubs-run-home/story-fnaqgujp-1227020917222

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Is it 'Mission Impossible' for the Tigers? (The Age)
« Reply #108 on: August 14, 2014, 12:30:06 AM »
Is it 'Mission Impossible' for the Tigers?

   Matt Murname
     The Age
    August 13, 2014 - 7:36PM



Richmond captain Trent Cotchin might not believe in finals fairytales, but the ‘‘Mission Impossible’’ his team embarked on two months ago has been achieved once before, and with the type of confidence and belief currently fuelling the Tigers’ drive.

Only one team has ever completed the challenge facing Richmond – it jumped from third last late in the season to make the finals – and a member of that team says the momentum behind the Tigers’ surge could be dangerous in the run home.

Brisbane in 1995 is the only team since the top eight system was introduced to match the kind of back-from-the-dead comeback Richmond is attempting. Under coach Robert Walls, it went from third last after round 14 to tear into the finals just eight weeks later.

The Tigers were in almost the same position at the end of round 14 this year, sitting third last and five games behind eighth-placed Gold Coast before winning six straight.
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St Kilda in 2011 is the only other team to come close to the feat recently, going from fourth last after round 14 to make the finals.

Star midfielder Cotchin stressed on Wednesday that Richmond was not looking at the massive task ahead of it – needing to defeat Adelaide (away), St Kilda (MCG) and Sydney (away), realising that the latter two matches will become irrelevant if the Tigers cannot upstage the Crows at Adelaide Oval on Saturday night.

“There is a lot of hype around in the papers and the supporters obviously get excited by it,’’ he said.

“Talk about fairytales and so forth, we’re not really interested in that, we just want to perform for four quarters against a quality opposition on Saturday night and then who knows where [we go] from there.’’

Former Richmond player Craig Lambert, also a member of the Brisbane team in 1995, recalled on Wednesday how there was a point two-thirds through the season where the players had given up on finals.

But a turning point in round 16 when the club staged one of the biggest last-quarter comebacks in its history to beat Hawthorn. It ignited the team’s belief and led to wins against top four teams Essendon and Richmond in the last three rounds.

The Tigers are aiming for a similar surge in belief, in particular to perform well in the round 23 match against second-placed Sydney, a team the Tigers have performed well against in the past six games – squaring the ledger at 3-3.

‘‘We started to win a couple of games against opposition that were more highly ranked than us, and then it was incredible how much belief came with us,’’ Lambert recalled.

‘‘Momentum and confidence in football ... it is a very powerful thing and it doesn’t matter who you are.

‘‘And especially now with the competition being so even.’’

Cotchin said the Tigers’ season also hit a turning point not long ago when the club challenged its own internal standards.

 ‘‘Then a number of our senior players came back into the side and started to get some continuity into their game and we just started to play with that desire and belief that we know that we can,’’ he said.

Lambert, now the player welfare manager at GWS, was a senior figure in the Brisbane 1995 team that included such young talent  as Michael Voss, Chris Scott, Justin Leppitsch, Nigel Lappin and Jason Akermanis.

He recalled how Brisbane snuck into eighth position but was one of the form teams. In the first week of the finals the Bears went  close to upsetting eventual premier Carlton, a team that lost only two games that season.

‘‘Up until early in the last quarter, we nearly had Carlton on the ropes that year, and that was against a side who that year were like the invincibles,’’ Lambert said.

‘‘It just seems at the moment Richmond have really good belief, and they’ve got players who are really starting to find some good form, they will be dangerous for any side.’’

Lambert said even if the Tigers missed the finals, the strong end to the season would be of benefit, just as it was to the 1995 Brisbane team that went on to play a preliminary final the following season.

‘‘Middle of the year there were a lot of people getting into Richmond, so any time you can change that momentum, and actually build like they have, it can only help you going into the following year,’’ he said.

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/is-it-mission-impossible-for-the-tigers-20140813-103qv1.html#ixzz3AHZTC9dK

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Garry Lyon: "Who have they beaten?" (In regards to the Tigers six wins in a row)

Nick Dal Santo: "The six teams they've played."

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for one week only....GET YOUR SHINBONER ON
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Even if Adelaide lose to NORF, (likely) they will still replace us in the 8 if we don't beat  Sydney in the final round, they have saints in the final round and a much better percentage. 9th on percentage

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To make the 8 - smashing St.kilda
« Reply #114 on: August 17, 2014, 08:54:17 AM »
Its all about Adelaide and Richmonds last 2 games.

We need to smash St.Kilda by a margin in the order of 115pts to catch Adelaides current percentage. And then either win or have a very close loss to Sydney.

We need Adelaide to get pummeled by a decent margin by North, and then not make up that margin when they defeat the saints.

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for one week only....GET YOUR SHINBONER ON

And also barrack like hell for the Suns.  A loss next week for Essendon and again in their last game against Carlton could still see them tumble out.

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Even if Adelaide lose to NORF, (likely) they will still replace us in the 8 if we don't beat  Sydney in the final round, they have saints in the final round and a much better percentage. 9th on percentage
Well yeah. We need to win everything and rightfully so. But of Norfies win at least it's all in out own hands.

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I know we need to beat the Aint's first but I'll be at ANZ for sure to cheer on the Lads. Will be interesting to see if the Swans rest any of their stars who may have niggles since they are locked and loaded. Kennedy went off yesterday with a Hamstring strain and the last thing they want is injuries going into finals.
Once again we will have nothing to lose and we have shown we are dangerous when our backs are to the wall. Also the dodgy turf at ANZ may also give them cause for concern.
 
Just to be sure, I'll also be at Spotless cheering on the Orange Goblins next weekend. I reckon the Pies are gone without Reid, Pendlebury, Cloke and Beams so the goblins may steal an unexpected home win to take the Pies completely out of calculations.

Oh and next week, go the Roos!!

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total emphasis has to be on beating St Kilda by about 20 goals. cant give up any scores and just need to nail as bigger win as possible.

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Re: To make the 8 - smashing St.kilda
« Reply #119 on: August 17, 2014, 10:31:24 AM »
How good would it be for North to give Adelaide a decent touch up on the weekend.
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