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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #330 on: November 09, 2014, 08:59:35 PM »
The best one

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #331 on: November 10, 2014, 07:27:17 AM »
The best one
Exactly.

Your first pick should always be best available.

Best available = Peter Wright (if he is available!)
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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #332 on: November 10, 2014, 07:55:17 AM »
I'd not be disappointed if we drafted Wright with our first pick but I just think we have bigger needs.
As we saw this trade period and last, decent ruckmen get traded around all the time. Maric has been awesome for us but only cost us a pick in the 30's and was ready to go from day one.
Why not trade for one next year or even the year after and rookie another couple this year. Ruckmen take a fair while to develop, why not try to develop a couple as rookies? Plus we do have Vickory and Hampson there at the moment that can provide enough backup to Ivan.

On another not, I was speaking to a guy on the weekend that seems to think Laverde will slide in the draft. Not sure how far but how nice would it be if he slipped to us. Every year someone slides for one reason or anther.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #333 on: November 10, 2014, 08:11:09 AM »
He is a forward who plays ruck as required. The same player as Vickery, Griffiths and McBean. Do we need another 200+ forward who can chop out in the ruck?

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #335 on: November 10, 2014, 12:02:35 PM »
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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #336 on: November 10, 2014, 12:07:02 PM »
I'd not be disappointed if we drafted Wright with our first pick but I just think we have bigger needs.
As we saw this trade period and last, decent ruckmen get traded around all the time. Maric has been awesome for us but only cost us a pick in the 30's and was ready to go from day one.
Why not trade for one next year or even the year after and rookie another couple this year. Ruckmen take a fair while to develop, why not try to develop a couple as rookies? Plus we do have Vickory and Hampson there at the moment that can provide enough backup to Ivan.

On another not, I was speaking to a guy on the weekend that seems to think Laverde will slide in the draft. Not sure how far but how nice would it be if he slipped to us. Every year someone slides for one reason or anther.
laverde or failin that degoey for me that is if we only ttarget a mid with 12.

when i look at our needs or look to balance out the list and target each area with good numbers and enough quality i figure we need.
2/ inside mids or mids who are both inside and out. pick 12.

2/ quick skillfull outside line breaking mids.

1/ mature ruckman  to replace hampson. theres a few options id rookie cameron, im tempted to look at loersch he has kicked goals and has real size but atm he is a one trick player. what i can gather sam baulderstone at 24yrs is probably the best state league option going around.

 1/ kpf possibly two. there is only riewoldt at 195cm the rest are all 200cm ruck/fwd options of which to date none look like being very good in one of the roles.

2/ tall fwds we dont have one fwd 190- thru 194 cm.its why i think  tyler kietel or tom lamb would be a good fit for us.

1/ sml fwd really quick  who kicks his fair share of goals and applies plenty of pressure. we have 3 on our list  mcdonough,lloyd, and s edwards and none really tick the required boxes or all of the boxes.

1/ sml defender there is only houli and he lacks defensively.

we have 8 spots to fill on the list  and have 10 needs overall. this yr  to me the tall fwds and mids should be a priority. but if pick 12 is not a mid or tall fwd but best available so be it.
my attitude to the talls is this. we could very easily upgrade our kpp/tall stocks because only riewoldt,rannce and ruckman maric have shown themselves to be a top level player.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #337 on: November 10, 2014, 02:34:14 PM »
To fill our need, next year we will go the GWS meal deal and snare both Shiel and Cameron.  :shh

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #338 on: November 10, 2014, 08:48:32 PM »
To fill our need, next year we will go the GWS meal deal and snare both Shiel and Cameron.  :shh

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Tigers eye classy midfield trio Duggan, Ellis or Weller with pick 12 (afl site)
« Reply #339 on: November 10, 2014, 09:49:52 PM »
Tigers eye classy midfield trio with first-round pick
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November 10, 2014 8:59 PM



MIDFIELD class is on the agenda for Richmond at this month's NAB AFL Draft, with three of the crop's better ball-users to be considered by the Tigers for their first selection.

Liam Duggan, Corey Ellis and Lachie Weller are believed to be on the club's recruiting radar for pick No.12, with the strong chance at least one of the trio will still be available.

Duggan started the year as a neat kicking half-back but progressed into the midfield where he showed a capacity to be used as an inside and outside option. He averaged 22 disposals in the TAC Cup this season, with about half of those contested.

But the Western Jets leader could be gone by the time the Tigers enter the draft, with Gold Coast (selection No.8 ) and West Coast (No.11) also interested.

Weller is also a possibility to be off the board by Richmond's pick, with the composed midfielder in consideration for the Eagles' selection. With a burst of speed and elite foot skills, the 18-year-old offers some midfield run and carry and can also push forward to set up and kick goals.

Ellis is unlikely to be picked before the Tigers' first selection, but will be considered by a number of clubs in the next handful of selections if the Tigers look elsewhere.

The Tigers last year drafted half-forward Ben Lennon at selection No.12, and he played seven games in his debut season.

Lennon had been long-linked to the club, having trained there early in the season as part of his AIS-AFL Academy scholarship, but the top end of this year's draft appears less settled. 

Jarrod Pickett remains in contention for Greater Western Sydney's three top-10 picks and Gold Coast's pick No.8, and strong-marking half-forward Jordan De Goey has been linked to Collingwood's pick No.5.

The Giants and Magpies will shape the rest of the first round, and tall forward/ruckman Peter Wright will likely be considered by Gold Coast (pick No.8 ), Geelong (10), Richmond (12) and Fremantle (13) should he not be selected by the Giants.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-11-10/tigers-eye-classy-mids

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #340 on: November 10, 2014, 10:08:52 PM »
Weller and Ahern for me. Certainly infront of Duggan, Ellis and Cockatoo.
Wright looks like a good player if we go tall. Durdin also a good consideration.

Weller has class, Ahern I like as well he looks like a footballer as well.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #341 on: November 10, 2014, 10:18:59 PM »
Weller being a RFC suppoerter from tassie certainly puts him inthe frame , has some wheels  :shh
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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #342 on: November 10, 2014, 10:49:02 PM »
Weller being a RFC suppoerter from tassie certainly puts him inthe frame , has some wheels  :shh

to be honest I don't think it matters who they barrack for it just comes down to how good they play and how good they can become in time. based on the little Ive seen (very little) the midfielders I like are Laverde, Weller and Ahern. I don't think Laverde will be around if we are lucky we will still have Weller and or Ahern available at our pick. Wright as a big man moves reallygood and exhibits good field kicking.

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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #343 on: November 10, 2014, 11:14:56 PM »
Here's the draft profiles of Duggan, Ellis & Weller. Who do you prefer out of the three?

Liam Duggan

Player bio               2014 U18 stats
Age:   17                   Games: 5
Height: 183cm          Goals:    -
Weight: 75kg           Avg Kicks: 8.6
Pos:   Defender         Avg Marks: 2.8
                              Avg Hballs: 6.6

Left-footed medium midfielder/defender with excellent decision-making skills. Uses the ball well and poised under pressure. Finished equal-seventh in the 3km time trial in a time of 10:11 and registered 26/30 in the kicking test at the NAB AFL Draft Combine. Finished the home and away season for the Western Jets with 30 disposals and 12 tackles against Gippsland Power, and averaged 15 disposals at 76 per cent efficiency in five games in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Won the Ben Mitchell Medal in the NAB AFL Academy Level 2 squad.

VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfNG1QuDlUw
                              http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=695791



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Corey Ellis

Player bio             2014 U18 stats
Age: 18                 Games: 5
Height: 185cm       Goals: 2
Weight: 76kg        Avg Kicks: 7.4
Pos: Midfielder       Avg Marks: 3.2
                           Avg Hballs: 6.2

Left-footed medium midfielder who is a star at the clearances with his clean hands and makes quick and correct decisions. Uses the ball well by hand and foot and has good game sense. Averaged 14 disposals and four tackles in his five matches in the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. Missed the late part of the season with a foot injury, which forced him out of testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine.

VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89ouL23fAa4
                              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akuifTPqtSY
                              http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=696654



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Lachlan Weller

Player bio                2014 U18 stats
Age: 18                    Games: 3
Height: 181cm          Goals: 3
Weight: 74kg           Avg Kicks: 8.6
Pos: Midfielder          Avg Marks: 2.6
                              Avg Hballs: 9.3

Medium midfielder has pace, poise and neat disposal by hand and foot. Won McLean Medal at NAB AFL Under-16 Championships in 2012 and was a NAB AFL Academy Level 2 squad member. Averaged 18 possessions in his three games during the NAB AFL Under-18 Championships. After a month off, impressed in his last game of the season for the Allies against the NAB AFL Academy on Grand Final day until injured. Bone bruising in his leg ruled him out of testing at the NAB AFL Draft Combine. Brother of St Kilda's Maverick.

VIDEO HIGHLIGHTS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYf97cfxBBc
                              http://www.afl.com.au/video?guid=698181
                              http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-10-29/draft-trumps-lachie-weller
                              http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-11-10/going-places-lachie-weller



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Re: Pick 12 - who should we draft?
« Reply #344 on: November 11, 2014, 03:31:55 AM »