Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)

[Phil Mrakov]

YBB is a patient, a mental patient 

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Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though…….

hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  we were in together in 93

[YellowandBlackBlood]

YBB is a patient, a mental patient 

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Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though…….

hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  we were in together in 93

Is that you mate!  Wow I never thought I'd catch up with you again!
Remember that guy that set himself on fire whilst having tin foil on his head?  Hahaha, he said he thought he was skylab undergoing re-entry into the atmosphere!!!!!
Best year of my life in Mont Park! The beds were lumpy but the drugs were good!

[Phil Mrakov]

YBB is a patient, a mental patient 

,,,,,,,,

Don't you hear the same voices as I do Phil?
I'm sure you do!  Voices that keep saying FJ will weave his magic in the draft etc etc.
The voice sounds remarkably like Bo's though…….

hang on, are you the other tigers supporter from mont park  we were in together in 93

Is that you mate!  Wow I never thought I'd catch up with you again!
Remember that guy that set himself on fire whilst having tin foil on his head?  Hahaha, he said he thought he was skylab undergoing re-entry into the atmosphere!!!!!
Best year of my life in Mont Park! The beds were lumpy but the drugs were good!

pm sent

[Judge Roughneck]

Latest rumour is he failed his medical.

Pick 12 for Motlop anyone?

Would prefer Christianson but beggera cannot be choosers

[one-eyed]

From today's Age

The Tigers remain interested in Melbourne midfielder Jack Trengove, although there is still work to be done before any deal can be done. Trengove would need to pick the Tigers - he has also attracted interest from Adelaide - while finances also need to be sorted.

If a deal with Richmond is done, the Tigers would also receive the Demons' pick 23. The Demons, in return, would receive the Tigers' first-round selection, pick 12.

The Crows could give up their first pick - No.10 overall - but this would mean ceding their highest pick since being banned from the first two rounds of the national draft in 2012 and 2013 because of the Kurt Tippett sanctions.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-name-emerges-in-dayne-beams-deal-as-trades-heat-up-20141011-114s3k.html

[one-eyed]

The failed medical test rumour came from the main trading board on BF:

Word is Richmond will pass up the trade now.
Medical report wasn't a positive out come.

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I know someone with strong connections, not at RFC but another club interested in him.  [ed. claims this person is an Adelaide board member]

They've got told from someone at Richmond that while his foot issue is manageable it will only get worse with wearing and tear playing AFL. He'll could really start struggling after 2-3 years.

Shame

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They [ed. alleged Adelaide board member & his friend at Richmond] use to play together at the same club.
Like I said, they [ed. Adelaide] are consider doing their own medical check.

Full of poo. Hows the weather in Adelaide ? I know 100% the medical was intensive and complete in its thoroughness. Why go on a board to lie? its quite pathetic. He has toured our facility's and even went as far as endurance/burst and kicking testing after the doc's cleared his scans. We are super confident if he agrees to come across and melbourne are still happy to trade him to us, we will take him.

If you seriously think we just walked up to melbourne on friday, well, i have 3 unicorns to sell you.

Yes, I do live in Adelaide. 2 years now. Thank you for asking.
But I can tell you it didn't go well.
Big pass by us.
Lets wait till Monday and see what happens.

Bookmarked. You "source" is either lieing to make a fool of you, or you are making this up. Some of us who post here know the odd player. I can tell you, 100% what you have said about Trengrove's foot etc is all rubbish.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/jack-trengove-to-tigerland.1079710/page-6

Got this information from a player who i happened to chat with today. Trengrove had a complete and intensive medical. If he comes across he will do a full pre season.

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/trade-free-agency-discussion-2014-part-ii-current-picks-12-33-52.1079644/page-15#post-35654897

[Phil Mrakov]

I hope Adelaide give away #10 for him

[bojangles17]

I hope Adelaide give away #10 for him

You idiot , are you so punch drunk you actually fear success 

[The Big Richo]

Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.

[Willy]

Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.

The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.

[Eat_em_Alive]

What number was vlossy when we got him? Could we pick up another like him instead?
These are the pickups that will make our future, from the sounds of it he doesnt even want to come

[the claw]

Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.

The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.

can i ask you willy. with pick 12 what are you looking for in a mid in the nd?????does trengove to date meet those expectations?????
its not just the injury we need to be looking at.
some people may write of pick 12 as a risk anyway i dont buy into that. pick 12 is an opportunity to get our hands on a very good to elite player, no more no less. so i guess based on the information we have will trengove be a very good to elite player coupled with will he over come his navicular.
hes a hard one because hes going to at least be decent we know that hes there now. but i dont see anything to support after 5 yrs in the system to say hes going to be consistently very good or elite.

i know trengove still has potential but we have  5 yrs of performance to look at when judging him.\ and i suppose for me thats the problem.
my gut tells me he could be very good possibly elite  but my brain my eyes the stats his performances to date  is saying maybe not.

after 5 yrs what sort of performance level backed up with stats are you looking for?????

for a mid of his size and type where is a realistic level he should be at. while on size its a bug bear with me. hes too sml and imo he needs more size so he can do the inside role his junior potential said he could do. imo he plays at least 5kd undewr what he needs to do the role expected. the sad thing is hes failed to gain size at all in 5 yrs. thats just one concern.

look rather than go into another long winded post that will just have most tune out i ask we look at his performances to date and ask have theyu been good enough to warrant we use pick 12 to get him.
 he was drafted as an inside out side mid good footy brain and very good skills. whe should for a bloke of his type and size be close to his potential and certainly clicked by now.
some key stats overall combined with the  attributes that has us interested in him.

attributes and potential the reason we are interested.

[Andyy]

An important factor for me is the Melbourne FC factor.

Does he look average because his side is always being smashed?

Would he be more effective in a better team?

And how bad is the psychological damage of playing for such an average club in his crucial development years?

Captaincy clearly didn't do him any good either.

[Willy]

Massive risk to give up pick 12 for someone who is returning from a navicular fracture.

Massive, massive risk.

The alleged deal would see us get their pick 23 also, TBR. So it's more like losing 11 places in the draft, as opposed to 'giving up pick 12'.

A risk, yes. But so is going to the draft... It's all risky. I think this is one worth taking.

can i ask you willy. with pick 12 what are you looking for in a mid in the nd?????does trengove to date meet those expectations?????
its not just the injury we need to be looking at.
some people may write of pick 12 as a risk anyway i dont buy into that. pick 12 is an opportunity to get our hands on a very good to elite player, no more no less. so i guess based on the information we have will trengove be a very good to elite player coupled with will he over come his navicular.
hes a hard one because hes going to at least be decent we know that hes there now. but i dont see anything to support after 5 yrs in the system to say hes going to be consistently very good or elite.

i know trengove still has potential but we have  5 yrs of performance to look at when judging him.\ and i suppose for me thats the problem.
my gut tells me he could be very good possibly elite  but my brain my eyes the stats his performances to date  is saying maybe not.

after 5 yrs what sort of performance level backed up with stats are you looking for?????

for a mid of his size and type where is a realistic level he should be at. while on size its a bug bear with me. hes too sml and imo he needs more size so he can do the inside role his junior potential said he could do. imo he plays at least 5kd undewr what he needs to do the role expected. the sad thing is hes failed to gain size at all in 5 yrs. thats just one concern.

look rather than go into another long winded post that will just have most tune out i ask we look at his performances to date and ask have theyu been good enough to warrant we use pick 12 to get him.
 he was drafted as an inside out side mid good footy brain and very good skills. whe should for a bloke of his type and size be close to his potential and certainly clicked by now.
some key stats overall combined with the  attributes that has us interested in him.

attributes and potential the reason we are interested.

No, the clincher with me is that we get pick 23 too. I wouldn't do the trade without it.
Long story short, I think his performance is worth a fall of 11 places in a draft that is supposedly deep with midfield talent. Before he got lumped with the captaincy of a basket case and injuries set in, he looked a very good player. I think he could really flourish in our good midfield.

I don't want to debate semantics here but the draft  by nature is a risk Claw, no matter how you spin it. To say otherwise would mean it's an exact science with no chance of fail, which we all no isn't true. To choose one player  over another is a risk. Richmond fans, of all people, know this.

Actually, I thought that this would be one trade you would support.

[Mr Magic]

I just don't see the logic in this.
Not like he was carving things up in the AFL prior to his injury concerns.
He might end up being a reasonable contributor but don't expect too much.
Hasn't proven anything at the elite level yet and at 23 the clock is well ticking.
Lets use 12 to land a great young player.