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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #180 on: October 13, 2014, 02:15:48 PM »
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I reckon Melbourne wins.
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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #183 on: October 13, 2014, 02:25:51 PM »
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Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #184 on: October 13, 2014, 02:28:05 PM »
The critical question is whether Trengrove would be a better player for us than the player we would have drafted at pick 12. There are question marks over Trengrove's leg speed and his ability to win contested possession. Believe the risks in recruiting him outweigh the advantages.

No, if that initial deal were to eventuate, the question would be whether Trengove AND pick 23 would be collectively more influential for the club than pick 12.

Trengove alone for pick 12 is not the alleged deal and it would not be a good one for us.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #185 on: October 13, 2014, 02:49:44 PM »
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Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?

Yep, we lose Conca, gain Trengove and move our first pick up from 12 to 11.

A definite win IF Trengove stays fit.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #186 on: October 13, 2014, 03:03:16 PM »
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Sorry, I mucked up the 'outs'. We of course give up Conca & pick 12.

The proposed trade would be:

Richmond - gains pick 11 & Trengove for Conca & pick 12.

Thanks for that. Yep IF he stays fit. I am sure Roosys team are doing all this for a very good reason. But Fit Trengove> Fit Conca, 11>12

Melbourne - gains pick 12 for Trengove and pick 23.

West Coast - gains Conca & pick 23 for pick 11
Just to be clear, in this scenario we end up with pick 11? Trengove and no conca. all our other picks remain?

Yep, we lose Conca, gain Trengove and move our first pick up from 12 to 11.

A definite win IF Trengove stays fit.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #187 on: October 13, 2014, 03:09:39 PM »
The critical question is whether Trengrove would be a better player for us than the player we would have drafted at pick 12. There are question marks over Trengrove's leg speed and his ability to win contested possession. Believe the risks in recruiting him outweigh the advantages.

No, if that initial deal were to eventuate, the question would be whether Trengove AND pick 23 would be collectively more influential for the club than pick 12.

Trengove alone for pick 12 is not the alleged deal and it would not be a good one for us.

It is no point speculating about the terms of any deal. At this point nothing has been made public re: a deal. What I am saying is to give up a first round pick for someone who has not made it yet is a risk regardless of any other draft picks we acquire through any deal.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #188 on: October 13, 2014, 03:14:07 PM »
With respect, of course it's a bloody risk. So is all drafting and trading.
If you don't want to speculate, why comment on the thread?

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #189 on: October 13, 2014, 03:37:21 PM »
With the greatest of respect there are degrees of risk. Of course all drafting and trading carries a risk. It is about minimizing the risk to an acceptable level. What I am saying is that in my opinion drafting Trengrove carries too much risk. The remark about speculation referred to the terms of any deal not in relation to chasing Trengrove.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #190 on: October 13, 2014, 04:17:57 PM »
With the greatest of respect there are degrees of risk. Of course all drafting and trading carries a risk. It is about minimizing the risk to an acceptable level. What I am saying is that in my opinion drafting Trengrove carries too much risk. The remark about speculation referred to the terms of any deal not in relation to chasing Trengrove.

Fair enough.
Again, for me the clincher is that we get 23 as well. That makes all the difference. I see it as a kind of two for one and therefor less risky than taking  just pick one to the draft.  Tren' IMO will at least be a decent player, perhaps a very good one. Ideally we could get two v. Good players out of it.

I know you say it is speculation but I don't think we would do it for Tren alone so it is relevant to the debate.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #191 on: October 13, 2014, 04:18:11 PM »
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.

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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #192 on: October 13, 2014, 04:21:20 PM »
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.

Agree but would still like us to try and find at least another pick in the 20's from somewhere.
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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #193 on: October 13, 2014, 04:28:11 PM »
I approve of this 3 way trade.

We effectively trade Conca for Trengove and a pick upgrade.

Agree but would still like us to try and find at least another pick in the 20's from somewhere.

Conca + Dean Cox's dignity for WC's pick 11.

12 to Melbourne for Trengove and 23.

Out: Conca
In: 11, 23 and Trengove.


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Re: Demon Jack Trengove could be traded to Richmond (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #194 on: October 13, 2014, 05:44:20 PM »
Is there some way for us to keep Dean Cox's dignity & still get their pick 11 for Trengove?  Dignity will cost them Shuey as well!    ;D 
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