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Why are our draft selections after our first selection usually so poor? So many failures or players who look like they may not cut it.

Seriously, do our recruiters not know what they are doing in terms of identifying talent after our first pick?

Here are a generation of picks (28 no less) who today would mostly range in age from 20-28 who you'd hope maybe a third would be able to add some permanent ongoing depth in the senior list at minimum, as well perhaps 2 or 3 would become very handy players:-

2012:-
Pick 31      Kamdyn Mcintosh           
Pick 42           Matthew Mcdonough

2011:-
Pick 26      Todd Elton   
Pick 55      Matthew Arnot

2010:-
Pick 47      Bradley Helbig       
Pick 51.             Dean MacDonald       
Pick 63      Tom Derickx   
Pick 94           David Gourdis       

2009:-
Pick 44      Matthew Dea   
Pick 51              Troy Taylor       
pick 67      Jeromey Webberley       
pick 74           Ben Nason       
Pick 91              Andrew Browne       

2008:-
Pick 26      Jayden Post   
Pick 58.             Tom Hislop   

2007:-
Pick 51      Dean Putt   

2006:-
Pick 58      Daniel Connors       
Pick 60      Carl Peterson   
Pick 73      Andrew Collins       

2005:-
Pick 24      Cleve Hughes       
Pick 40              Travis Casserly       

2004:-
 Pick 4      Richard Tambling   
 Pick 12      Danny Meyer       
 Pick 16      Adam Pattison       
 Pick 20      Dean Polo   
 Pick 52      Dean Limbach       
 Pick 65.         Mark Graham       


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Because the bed recruiters find talent deeper than the first round.

Most can nail their first pick.

And omg look at that '04 list of draftees ewww

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It's a massive issue!

You would want you 2nd round pick to be at least a 100-200 game player.

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That's a really bad track record isn't it. Lets hope this year is different.
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“We are really excited about what we have brought in. We have got great depth of players that can take us where we need to go. We are just putting some cream on the top at the moment,” he said.

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Part of that is the compromised drafts

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How's Melbourne going

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Put some other teams up

It won't alll be fairy floss and magic dust

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The Blues are doing ordinary

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FJ is the only one that makes sense.

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Love how the op trying to corrupt the forum with deception, cleverly leaving out anyone that's actually playing seniors that was a late draft pick.....um Astbury, Batchelor, Newman , Edwards ...where where they all selected ....but hey don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn  :shh
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How's Melbourne going

The issue we have is that club recruiters aren't listening to the REAL club scouts - Diocletian, Craw, ramps, HampspudedAngus. It's amazing what can be detected on you tube  ::)
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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The issue we have is that club recruiters aren't listening to the REAL club scouts - Diocletian, Craw, ramps, HampspudedAngus. It's amazing what can be detected on you tube  ::)
Na the real issue is the recruiters arent doing their job. Why have a go at the posters who merley point this out.
How do you rate the recruiters after the first round in the above time frame,  good or bad??
Plus the op was being very lenient imo. eg
04 Mcguane 36
05 Jon 8
06 Edwards 26. imo his record is poor.
08 Vickery is poor for a pick 8 and been largely disappointing, Gourdis was a  junior psd pick and thus went straight to the list proper,
09 Griffiths has been mostly horrid, people praising up improvement this yr but his best games have largely still been pretty ordinary. Astbury shown glimpses taken forever and is still establishing himself due to injuries. .
10 Conca at 6 is disappointing and been mostly ordinary.  Batchelor very ordinary.
12 Add Ohanlon as a junior taken in the psd,

Mate just because they are still on the list it doesnt automatically make them success stories.
Now go and do the rookie. You would think it impossible to get worse but it does.

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It's all relative, bottom line is we rebuilt during compromised drafts and have made finals in the last two years with a core of stars that are still young.

We could have done better and we could have done worse.

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Love how the op trying to corrupt the forum with deception, cleverly leaving out anyone that's actually playing seniors that was a late draft pick.....um Astbury, Batchelor, Newman , Edwards ...where where they all selected ....but hey don't let the truth get in the way of a good yarn  :shh

Exception to the rule aren't they. Just a small handful of depth players. Love that success rate

Wait til we do the rookie draft it does get worse!

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