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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2014, 04:14:21 PM »
What are your thoughts on recruiting Shaun Hampson RFCO?
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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2014, 05:39:32 PM »
Is Francis Jackson our main list manager? No, Blair Hartley is ultimately responsible for the list.



 :gobdrop :gobdrop Blair? Really? Nah? Not possible

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2014, 06:42:04 PM »
RFC_O, what is the best way to catch the sneaky little devil that lives in my fridge and turns the light on when I open the door?

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2014, 06:58:55 PM »
RFC_O, what is the best way to catch the sneaky little devil that lives in my fridge and turns the light on when I open the door?

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2014, 07:40:12 PM »
they are all rubbish, keep Williams and  drop the rest off at the dingley tip with hammer hampson

2/3/4 round flops these blokes are made for.

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #20 on: December 09, 2014, 07:56:36 PM »
Cheers RFC o , pretty well how I see it too  :clapping
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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #21 on: December 09, 2014, 08:00:41 PM »
Is Francis Jackson our main list manager? No, Blair Hartley is ultimately responsible for the list.



 :gobdrop :gobdrop Blair? Really? Nah? Not possible

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WP, you would know if FJ has been full time before 2009 wouldn't you?

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #22 on: December 09, 2014, 08:06:23 PM »
Is Francis Jackson our main list manager? No, Blair Hartley is ultimately responsible for the list. He, Dan Richo, Dimma and Francis discuss the make up of the list they want to achieve, it's then up to Blair and Francis to help get those players to the club.

How long has he been doing it for? He's been full-time since 2009.

Is he in charge of the face to face recruiting (the lounge room sell)? He goes along with our other recruiters, Dimma, Blair, maybe some players. Each recruit would be a different sell.

Would he and Dimma discuss all options prior to recruitment? Absolutely, Dimma explains the game plan he wants to use and the gaps he sees in the list, and Francis and his team is charged with getting those players in the draft. The data the recruiters collect on these players since they are 16, 17 then flows through to Blair's system to be used as trade/free agency potential options.

RFC-O, do you want to leave that answer as 2009?

Richmond is the only club now in the market for a full-time recruiting manager for 2006, but the Tigers are believed likely to appoint lead scout Francis Jackson, who has worked closely with football director Greg Miller, to head up their recruiting.

http://www.realfooty.theage.com.au/realfooty/articles/2005/11/29/1133026468895.html

The AFL article was titled "Jackson to take on full-time tiger role".


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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #23 on: December 09, 2014, 08:13:04 PM »
'being groomed' has become such a compromised phrase these days, I often feel, myself.

Are you saying that because "being groomed" has become so compromised that you often resort to feeling yourself instead?
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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #24 on: December 09, 2014, 08:16:39 PM »
'being groomed' has become such a compromised phrase these days, I often feel, myself.

Are you saying that because "being groomed" has become so compromised that you often resort to feeling yourself instead?

Nothing wrong with a bit of 'party for one' after a tight grooming
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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #25 on: December 09, 2014, 08:34:28 PM »
WP, you would know if FJ has been full time before 2009 wouldn't you?

Would I? Not sure why you'd say that.

but I've always thought it was around 2007

2009 doesn't seem right to me

And I do think Mr RFC_O answer highlights Good 'ole Blair has more say on the list than Francis Jackson does and that's always been one of my points about Blair and his influence  ;D ;D

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #26 on: December 09, 2014, 09:14:15 PM »
WP, you would know if FJ has been full time before 2009 wouldn't you?

Would I? Not sure why you'd say that.

but I've always thought it was around 2007

2009 doesn't seem right to me

And I do think Mr RFC_O answer highlights Good 'ole Blair has more say on the list than Francis Jackson does and that's always been one of my points about Blair and his influence  ;D ;D

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It was just a question WP. That I though you may know the answer to. I think we both know the answer!  No hidden agenda.
All I'll say is thank God FJ isn't in charge of the list, he has failed miserably at his current job.
Why would FJ be list manager if he is the recruiting manager?
Someone has to be in charge of the list, why not Blair?
Richo negotiates the contracts so he cannot do it?
Between DH and BH they should be in charge of the list. And they are by the sound of it.

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #27 on: December 09, 2014, 09:22:18 PM »

Richo negotiates the contracts so he cannot do it?


All contracts?

I believe Richo should do ALL contracts but I don't think he does.

Do you think he should do all the contracts?
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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #28 on: December 09, 2014, 09:42:17 PM »

Richo negotiates the contracts so he cannot do it?


All contracts?

I believe Richo should do ALL contracts but I don't think he does.

Do you think he should do all the contracts?
Yes. But realistically there needs to be input from DH, BH and Richo to a small degree.
Richo has dealt with player contracts for a long time now from his time at ESP so he is definitely most qualified to deal with the legal side of things.
You didn't answer my question though, 'why not BH in charge of the list?'

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Re: Francis Jackson
« Reply #29 on: December 09, 2014, 10:23:55 PM »
Richo has dealt with player contracts for a long time now from his time at ESP so he is definitely most qualified to deal with the legal side of things.
You didn't answer my question though, 'why not BH in charge of the list?'

Richo isnt doing all contracts and that concerns me

In answer to your question I don't rate Blair so no I wouldn't have him in charge of our list.

And before you ask.

I don't rate him because he has a lot of say in who we should re-contract, trade for our recruiting model and who we target as free agents. Actually believe he has his fingers in far too many pies

He is the person who recommended giving a 3 year  extension to Grigg. Yes he was a good pick up at the time, he filled a need when he was bought to the club but now facts are he going to get any better so you have to ask why the extension?

People are critical of signing Chris Knights for 3 years under free agency. That was Blair decision not a Jackson one.

Hartley recommended we trade for Hampson, blind Freddie can see that was a very poor decision (and thats being kind). He also gave us Thomas.

You lamented during the FA period why we didn't go after a Frawley, suggest you ask Blair as he rates all the FAs....so...

As I've always said you want to whack Jackson for his recruiting selections then whack Blair as well because as Mr RFC_O pointed out Blair has a huge say in what sort of players we target because he is ultimately responsible for our list
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