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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #60 on: June 17, 2015, 09:37:16 PM »
Would like to see Maric Ruck on Nat and then Ty go to him immediately. Ty played well on him before and as a youngster!! Good challenge for him.
Not sure which games you've been watching WAT. NicNat has owned Vickery in the ruck. It's a massive challenge for him. Hope he can nullify him somewhat.

No he hasn't.

What sort of beer do they serve over there. I'll have a slab of it.
They have played each other 6 times. Hit out count NicNat 152, Vickery 32

Not desputing who is better, but are those stats when they ruck each other or is NicNats stats including hit outs against another ruck eg. Maric

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #61 on: June 17, 2015, 10:33:11 PM »
No it's not against each other YR.
And yes NicNat as a second ruck gets more of a go than Vickery does. There is also the 50 hitouts that NicNat got after Vickery knocked out Cox. That might skew the stat a little. But that's Vickery's fault lol.
Also, I doubt that Vickery has won 32 hitouts against NicNat. I like watching the ruck, I cannot remember him winning one single tapout against him, I'm sorry to say it has been a complete domination.
This all sounds very negative but overall I think Vickery has improved enormously in the ruck, he uses his body weight well to maintain position at boundary throw ins. Timing of his leap has improved and he is sharking it better. He is more aggressive in the ruck. I like it. He has to do this to survive and good on him.

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #62 on: June 17, 2015, 11:51:59 PM »
I don't pay much attention to hit outs, I reckon they are overrated, but I like Vickerys work once it hits the deck. Not as athletic as NicNat but he definitely has good athleticism for his size.
Also I think WAT was more referring to their under 18 days when I believe Vickery did have the better of NicNat. But that was a long time ago now

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #63 on: June 18, 2015, 02:38:04 AM »
Yes -Vickery definitely edged him when they went head to head in the U'18 champs....not quite the great scalp back then though as NicNat, despite all the hype and high draft position, was very raw & still learning the basics - much more of a pure athlete than an actual footballer. (some would even argue that's still the case.)
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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #64 on: June 18, 2015, 06:52:34 AM »
Hello one eye's.
Coming over from WA to watch the mighty Tigers smash the Eagles.
Would like to sit with most of the Tigers fans as I have a mate with me who is an Eagles supporter.
Can anyone tell me the best place to sit deep inside the Tigers den, i.e where the bulk of supporters are.
Cheers
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Suggest M1-M4 Punt Road in Great Southern Stand. Cheersquad will be in M3
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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #65 on: June 18, 2015, 11:37:10 AM »
Hello one eye's.
Coming over from WA to watch the mighty Tigers smash the Eagles.
Would like to sit with most of the Tigers fans as I have a mate with me who is an Eagles supporter.
Can anyone tell me the best place to sit deep inside the Tigers den, i.e where the bulk of supporters are.
Cheers
Wellsy

Most of the ground will be Richmond Wellsy, I reckon 50,000-55,000 approx.

If you are talking deep deep RICHMOND and youd like to give you mate the full experience, I would strongly recommend  the southern stand, punt rd end, M3 or M4 on ground level, halfway down to the boundary fence. Noisiest Richmond place on the planet, located an equal distance between the Cheer Squad and the grog squad.

You'll get the both get not only the colour and movement of the cheer squad but also the abrasiveness of the grog squad.

Bring a jacket too. Seriously you Sandgropers won't be used to the cold. The weather forecast is a max on Friday at 12 degrees. By game time it will be lucky to be in double figures.

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #66 on: June 18, 2015, 11:46:43 AM »
Imo sit as far away from the cheer squad as possible
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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #67 on: June 18, 2015, 12:39:59 PM »
Media all behind West Coast as per usual.

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Who is commentating for our opponents this week?  :laugh:

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #68 on: June 18, 2015, 01:45:53 PM »
Media all behind West Coast as per usual.

 :snidegrin

Who is commentating for our opponents this week?  :laugh:

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Friday night will reveal whether Richmond or West Coast are the real deal

   David King
      Herald-Sun
      June 18, 2015 8:00PM



TWO teams are classic cases of unknown identities, the league’s equivalents of John Doe. Who are they? Where do they reside in the AFL landscape? No one knows.

The 2015 West Coast Eagles are a four-goal better outfit than last season, two offensively and two defensively, but still they receive little kudos.

Consistently they’re asked who they’ve beaten, but seven of their eight victories are by a minimum of 50 points. Surely that stacks up.

Only two teams have topped the 1100 points-for mark after 10 rounds — Hawthorn and the now potent Eagles. That should place them in premiership contention but, curiously, it has not.

And it’s easier to work out Rubik’s Cube than the mindset of the Richmond players over the past two or three seasons. Damien Hardwick’s troops have matured ... haven’t they?

The cold, hard facts are that Richmond can beat anyone on their day but, conversely, also can be beaten by anyone.

Wins over Collingwood, Port Adelaide and Fremantle in Perth in the past four weeks should have the Tigers in the top four conversation again, but apparently they are not.

Shock losses to Melbourne and the Western Bulldogs in the first month of the season highlight why we have trust issues.

Adam Simpson’s Eagles are one of the toughest outfits in the competition, averaging almost nine contested possessions more than direct opponents.

That is their most critical asset. It dictates whether they win or lose.

They have lost the contested ball battle only three times this season but it’s no coincidence that, each time, they did not come away with the four points.

Nic Naitanui still polarises opinion, averaging only 11 possessions and only one mark. The constant conversation concentrates on what he doesn’t do, but what he does is simply unstoppable.

If the West Coast is the real deal, just imagine his importance and focus in the big games late in September. I guarantee the knockers will change their tune.

Richmond doesn’t have a Naitanui, but it has a fast maturing leadership group that has recognised and employed a team-first mentality at the expense of personal glory.

Jack Riewoldt’s form mirrors the fortunes of the Tigers. Jack’s never looked more content with his football and has never worked as hard as he does now.

Richmond’s recent success has been the result of patient ball movement, maintaining time in possession while still moving the ball forward.

There’s much more north-south ball movement in the past month, rather than lateral and backward kicking employed early in 2015.

It will be strength versus strength at the MCG on Friday night.

West Coast is intent on locking the ball in its forward half and, when it wins, averages more than 13 minutes more than their opposition.

Richmond’s slower, methodical ball movement will be challenged exiting its defensive end and we know this has been the Tigers’ achilles heel.

The West Coast is dangerous off the back of the hit-out domination provided by Naitanui and the ever-improving Cam Sinclair.

The Tigers must be on their game at defensive 50 stoppages, because the Eagles have scored significantly more than any other team at forward 50 stoppages.

Jonathon Brown rates the West Coast forward six as the best in the league. Only Hawthorn has greater offensive productivity than the Eagles, who average 106 points a game.

The most daunting match-up for Richmond is Mark Le Cras. Alex Rance will go to Josh Kennedy — and both have been in stellar form — but the Tigers lack a gun small defender.

Dylan Grimes must stand up and assume this mantle after a solid Perth trip against Michael Walters, but Le Cras is slippery.

West Coast and Richmond each has match-winning individuals but the method of play will come into sharp focus under the Friday night lights.

I get the feeling the Eagles acknowledge the importance of performing at the MCG because they’ve won only three of their past 16 games there — all against the struggling Melbourne.

Both teams play strong brands of football that are in good order, but tonight’s result will answer just who these two teams are — muddling, mid-table drifters or top four challengers this year with the vision to premiership contention in the next two or three seasons.

It’s the classic two teams enter, one team leaves. On Friday night we learn the identity of these two great clubs.

http://www.news.com.au/national/friday-night-will-reveal-whether-richmond-or-west-coast-are-the-real-deal/story-e6frfkp9-1227404305351

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #70 on: June 18, 2015, 10:24:30 PM »
David King LMAO

The Headline -LMAO.

What a loser.
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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #71 on: June 19, 2015, 01:48:25 PM »
Out of interest, our record first up post-bye playing non-bye teams since 2012 is 1 win, 2 losses.

Mind you thanks to last year, we have a record of one of the best season turnarounds post-bye (13th into the finals with a 38% chance in our winning record).

The Eagles on the other hand have fallen out of the top 8 post-bye in the past two seasons (2013-14).

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-06-19/the-inquirer-make-or-break

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #72 on: June 19, 2015, 03:03:05 PM »
Gents, you make anything of the betting?
We were $1.60 just as of 2.30 or so we are out to $2.00.
fair enough if everyone is on the bandwagon, but i'm smelling late mail?

Only player to make us plunge like that is Rance I would of thought.

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #73 on: June 19, 2015, 03:47:16 PM »
SEN saying that there is a big out.
FFS.

Either Rance or Lids and we could be in trouble.

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Re: Richmond vs West Coast @ MCG - Round 12, 2015 [merged]
« Reply #74 on: June 19, 2015, 04:07:09 PM »
Riewoldt is the one I'm hearing.  :pray
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