Richmond ranked 18th for hit outs in 2015

[🏅Dooks]

Do we need to address our poor ruck stocks as urgently as our lack of good small fwds?

Case in point, we are ranked last in hit outs this season

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_team_rankings?year=2015&type=TA&sby=7

I know Maric battles hard and is generally sound around the ground most of the time in general play, but should we be targeting a premium ruck to help our midfielders get first use of the ball and enable more clearances (which we are also ranked below afl average).

Is this as urgent as the small fwd deficiency?

[Phil Mrakov]

I think we should give Hampson a go

[Simonator]

Lets just merge maric and hampson into one person and we'll be set.

[WilliamPowell]

While I understand your point Dooks

I'd raise the other part of the equation. If we know we are going to lose the hit outs, why don't we adjust to that likelihood. Eg why are our mids unable (perhaps unwilling) to play to the oppositions hit outs. All clubs do the analysis of the opposition, the club plans for it why are mids unable to do it.

And believe me I was at a pre-match presentation as part of my coterie package and we and last night's plan explained to us and we had planned for the Nic Nat domination and our mods did not execute they way they should have

Lets just merge maric and hampson into one person and we'll be set.

Yep perfect options

And BTW Hampson isn't the answer because he offers nothing outside hit outs

[Hellenic Tiger]

How about Leuenberger.
On the outer at Brisbane.

Scott Lycett from West Coast will be great.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

While I understand your point Dooks

I'd raise the other part of the equation. If we know we are going to lose the hit outs, why don't we adjust to that likelihood. Eg why are our mids unable (perhaps unwilling) to play to the oppositions hit outs. All clubs do the analysis of the opposition, the club plans for it why are mids unable to do it.

And believe me I was at a pre-match presentation as part of my coterie package and we and last night's plan explained to us and we had planned for the Nic Nat domination and our mods did not execute they way they should have

Lets just merge maric and hampson into one person and we'll be set.

Yep perfect options

And BTW Hampson isn't the answer because he offers nothing outside hit outs

Well that is your fault WP!!!

[torch]

While I understand your point Dooks

I'd raise the other part of the equation. If we know we are going to lose the hit outs, why don't we adjust to that likelihood. Eg why are our mids unable (perhaps unwilling) to play to the oppositions hit outs. All clubs do the analysis of the opposition, the club plans for it why are mids unable to do it.

And believe me I was at a pre-match presentation as part of my coterie package and we and last night's plan explained to us and we had planned for the Nic Nat domination and our mods did not execute they way they should have

Lets just merge maric and hampson into one person and we'll be set.

Yep perfect options

And BTW Hampson isn't the answer because he offers nothing outside hit outs

Very hard to read what Priddis, Shuey, Gaff, Yeo, Masten will run or move too when Nic Nat hits it.

Maric was horrible and just conceded.

The plan was we would put two players behind the ball at all times and that killed our forward options.

[WilliamPowell]

The plan was we would put two players behind the ball at all times and that killed our forward options.

Really?
Don't think so

[🏅Dooks]

While I understand your point Dooks

I'd raise the other part of the equation. If we know we are going to lose the hit outs, why don't we adjust to that likelihood. Eg why are our mids unable (perhaps unwilling) to play to the oppositions hit outs. All clubs do the analysis of the opposition, the club plans for it why are mids unable to do it.

And believe me I was at a pre-match presentation as part of my coterie package and we and last night's plan explained to us and we had planned for the Nic Nat domination and our mods did not execute they way they should have

Lets just merge maric and hampson into one person and we'll be set.

Yep perfect options

And BTW Hampson isn't the answer because he offers nothing outside hit outs

I don't disagree to an extent WP. But as an aspiring top 4 side, I think there's something fundamentally wrong with pinning our hopes in this critical area on our mids sharking opositions hit outs. More often than not it doesn't work and it's very difficult to do, as opposed to having a gun ruck who can direct you first use.

[WilliamPowell]

I don't disagree to an extent WP. But as an aspiring top 4 side, I think there's something fundamentally wrong with pinning our hopes in this critical area on our mids sharking opositions hit outs. More often than not it doesn't work and it's very difficult to do, as opposed to having a gun ruck who can direct you first use.

Do agree with your main point Dooks but all clubs are going to struggle against Nic Nat so they need to plan for that

Agree we need we need to target another ruck for the medium term. But who? The only one who's at the right age and is likely available is Luenberger and with his injury history, I'm not sure you'd take the risk

Just watching the VFL, they've thrown McBean in the ruck in the final qtr and I have to say he looks so far off being a key ruck it's not funny

[Penelope]

the amount of times in the last two games that the opposition have not just dominated the hit outs, but continually tapped to a midfielder on the move for a clearance is a real concern.

It's not just a refelection on our ruck stocks, but also on our midfielders inability to adjust when the ruck is getting a bath.

What i find most concerning , above all else, is that it was so bad last night i was wondering if we could have done with Hamspon to negate the ruck dominance, even allowing for how crap he is at everything else required of an AFL footballer.

[Yeahright]

the amount of times in the last two games that the opposition have not just dominated the hit outs, but continually tapped to a midfielder on the move for a clearance is a real concern.

It's not just a refelection on our ruck stocks, but also on our midfielders inability to adjust when the ruck is getting a bath.

What i find most concerning , above all else, is that it was so bad last night i was wondering if we could have done with Hamspon to negate the ruck dominance, even allowing for how crap he is at everything else required of an AFL footballer.

Doubt Hampson would of had such little influence around the ground as Maric as well. Poor game by the big fella

[Diocletian]

Maric was horrible around the ground. Lumbering, fumbling, brainless disposal, looked like Gus at his worst. Not the first time this year either. Not sure Hamspud would've beaten NicNat in the hit outs either though....and he can't even take an uncontested mark which Maric can at least still do.

[Penelope]

yeah, there has been a few times this year that maric has taken posession in the clear, yet been so slow to get rid of the ball he has done so under pressure. it's like he is in slow motion while those around him are at normal pace

[Yeahright]

Been serviceable most times but really, he has only had one good year (2012)