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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #45 on: October 26, 2015, 12:18:42 PM »
47   Soldo, Ivan (R)   0   19yr 6mth   14 Apr 1996   204cm   
34   Mcbean, Liam   2   21yr 2mth   25 Aug 1994   202cm   
16   Hampson, Shaun   78   27yr 7mth   21 Mar 1988   201cm   
20   Maric, Ivan   154   29yr 9mth   4 Jan 1986   200cm   102kg   
24   Griffiths, Benjamin   48   24yr 1mth   17 Sep 1991   200cm   
29   Vickery, Tyrone   102   25yr 4mth   31 May 1990   200cm   
42   McKenzie, Reece   0   19yr 6mth   28 Mar 1996   197cm   
43   Elton, Todd   2   22yr 5mth   29 Apr 1993   197cm   100kg   
8   Riewoldt, Jack   180   26yr 11mth   31 Oct 1988   195cm   
12   Astbury, David   41   24yr 7mth   26 Feb 1991   195cm   95kg   
25   Chaplin, Troy   207   29yr 8mth   23 Feb 1986   195cm   
18   Rance, Alex   130   26yr   9 Oct 1989   194cm   
2   Grimes, Dylan   63   24yr 3mth   16 Jul 1991   193cm   
33   Mcintosh, Kamdyn   23   21yr 6mth   3 Apr 1994   192cm   
6   Grigg, Shaun   147   27yr 6mth   19 Apr 1988   190cm   
3   Deledio, Brett   232   28yr 6mth   18 Apr 1987   188cm   
11   Batchelor, Jake   75   23yr 8mth   13 Feb 1992   188cm


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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #46 on: October 27, 2015, 03:15:30 AM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year. The only time Ivan does at times struggle is, by his own admission, because he's not the tallest ruckman going around compared to those big opposition. That's the reason why we brought Shaun Hampson in a couple of years ago. Through injury and opportunity [lack of], he hasn't quite delivered what we would like to date. But we still think at 25-26 years of age, that there's still improvement in him and we saw that at times in the middle part of the year; then he got injured towards the latter part of the year. We'll back him in - in terms of profile and the type of ruckman we need - you know getting up a bit higher [in the ruck contest], getting us first use of the footy and getting the ball moving forward. We believe he can be that player. 

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #47 on: October 27, 2015, 07:07:06 AM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year. The only time Ivan does at times struggle is, by his own admission, because he's not the tallest ruckman going around compared to those big opposition. That's the reason why we brought Shaun Hampson in a couple of years ago. Through injury and opportunity [lack of], he hasn't quite delivered what we would like to date. But we still think at 25-26 years of age, that there's still improvement in him and we saw that at times in the middle part of the year; then he got injured towards the latter part of the year. We'll back him in - in terms of profile and the type of ruckman we need - you know getting up a bit higher [in the ruck contest], getting us first use of the footy and getting the ball moving forward. We believe he can be that player. 

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #48 on: October 27, 2015, 07:08:52 AM »
The ruck discussion.
IMHO, sandilands is almost unstoppable, yet freo loses.

First hands in the pill is important, but if you can read the tap what does it matter?

Taps to advantage is an interesting stat, nor all that conclusive.

Prhaps an athletic agile player around 200 is all we need and we have mcbean, vickery, hampson, griffiths, soldo,. Sure none are perfect and all encompassing but the reality is they are our  list.

What is the point getting another one?

The only one who is almost avaiilable is Goldstein. Would you throw a bucket of money at him? Eg 5 mill over 5 years?

Inside mids, around 188-190 are probably a better option,??

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #49 on: October 27, 2015, 09:24:06 AM »
The ruck discussion.
IMHO, sandilands is almost unstoppable, yet freo loses.

First hands in the pill is important, but if you can read the tap what does it matter?

Taps to advantage is an interesting stat, nor all that conclusive.

Prhaps an athletic agile player around 200 is all we need and we have mcbean, vickery, hampson, griffiths, soldo,. Sure none are perfect and all encompassing but the reality is they are our  list.

What is the point getting another one?

The only one who is almost avaiilable is Goldstein. Would you throw a bucket of money at him? Eg 5 mill over 5 years?

Inside mids, around 188-190 are probably a better option,??
do you by chance have access to taps to advantage stats?
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #50 on: October 27, 2015, 12:40:26 PM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year. The only time Ivan does at times struggle is, by his own admission, because he's not the tallest ruckman going around compared to those big opposition. That's the reason why we brought Shaun Hampson in a couple of years ago. Through injury and opportunity [lack of], he hasn't quite delivered what we would like to date. But we still think at 25-26 years of age, that there's still improvement in him and we saw that at times in the middle part of the year; then he got injured towards the latter part of the year. We'll back him in - in terms of profile and the type of ruckman we need - you know getting up a bit higher [in the ruck contest], getting us first use of the footy and getting the ball moving forward. We believe he can be that player. 

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Hampson is only 25

Maric and Chaplin 26

Future is bright  :lol
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #51 on: October 27, 2015, 04:49:17 PM »
But we still think at 25-26 years of age
Not hard to work out why its hard to land a quality recruit.
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #52 on: October 27, 2015, 05:09:22 PM »
But we still think at 25-26 years of age
Not hard to work out why its hard to land a quality recruit.
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #53 on: October 27, 2015, 06:35:05 PM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year.

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #54 on: October 27, 2015, 08:06:30 PM »
But we still think at 25-26 years of age
Not hard to work out why its hard to land a quality recruit.
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #55 on: October 27, 2015, 10:15:14 PM »
Freakin funny.
On  a serious note young ruck,  i hope they have a look at a kid called Mathew Flynn at least with a rookie pick.Or god forbid just look at him.

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #56 on: October 27, 2015, 11:27:39 PM »
The ruck discussion.
IMHO, sandilands is almost unstoppable, yet freo loses.

First hands in the pill is important, but if you can read the tap what does it matter?

Taps to advantage is an interesting stat, nor all that conclusive.

Prhaps an athletic agile player around 200 is all we need and we have mcbean, vickery, hampson, griffiths, soldo,. Sure none are perfect and all encompassing but the reality is they are our  list.

What is the point getting another one?

The only one who is almost avaiilable is Goldstein. Would you throw a bucket of money at him? Eg 5 mill over 5 years?

Inside mids, around 188-190 are probably a better option,??
do you by chance have access to taps to advantage stats?
Tried googling no luck but i recall if is surprisingly low, like less than 40% for Sandilands. Natainui is 20%, i dont know how they calculate the stat though.

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2015, 01:55:34 AM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year. The only time Ivan does at times struggle is, by his own admission, because he's not the tallest ruckman going around compared to those big opposition. That's the reason why we brought Shaun Hampson in a couple of years ago. Through injury and opportunity [lack of], he hasn't quite delivered what we would like to date. But we still think at 25-26 years of age, that there's still improvement in him and we saw that at times in the middle part of the year; then he got injured towards the latter part of the year. We'll back him in - in terms of profile and the type of ruckman we need - you know getting up a bit higher [in the ruck contest], getting us first use of the footy and getting the ball moving forward. We believe he can be that player. 

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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2015, 12:03:36 PM »
David Schwarz on SEN:
Dan, any concerns in the ruck? Ivan isn't getting any younger; I know you've brought Shaun Hampson over from Carlton; Ty Vickery can pinch hit in there. Is that something you will look at in the draft, or in the next year or so, to bolster up that position?

Dan Richardson:
At some stage as Ivan gets a little bit older, it's something we will need to continue to look at. We did bring .... well, we thought Ivan had a terrific year. The only time Ivan does at times struggle is, by his own admission, because he's not the tallest ruckman going around compared to those big opposition. That's the reason why we brought Shaun Hampson in a couple of years ago. Through injury and opportunity [lack of], he hasn't quite delivered what we would like to date. But we still think at 25-26 years of age, that there's still improvement in him and we saw that at times in the middle part of the year; then he got injured towards the latter part of the year. We'll back him in - in terms of profile and the type of ruckman we need - you know getting up a bit higher [in the ruck contest], getting us first use of the footy and getting the ball moving forward. We believe he can be that player. 

https://audioboom.com/boos/3720910-dan-richardson-on-chris-yarran
It's nice when the Footy manager takes 2 to 3 years off your age...... :whistle

1-2 years. If you're going to correct someone make sure you're right.

Im not a mathematician but if you take what he said and take how old Megan will be in round 1 it is indeed three years off ... yet another worryingly bizarre comment from a key member of the richmonds brain-trust 

i like how they are just telling people before trade periods now we are not going to get anyone good, and making up peoples ages  :clapping
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Re: Is the reason, we are apparently not in for a ruck or key defender
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2015, 01:11:16 PM »
just out of curiosity, once they knew they were not going to get the bigger names they targeted, what would you have wanted them to say?
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