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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1470 on: October 19, 2015, 11:13:56 AM »
Show time. lets see how ballsy the club

If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.

Average draft says who exactly. Lets wait and see hey.

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1471 on: October 19, 2015, 11:15:16 AM »
bell and stanley are both fairly rubbish

#20 odd is ludicrous regardless of draft strength 

id be offering hampson and chaplin for a packet of twisties  :pray

we shouldnt give away astbury/elton/griffiths/vickery unless its a very good deal
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1472 on: October 19, 2015, 11:16:26 AM »
Show time. lets see how ballsy the club

If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.

the market fetish seems to be overpaying for talls



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Average draft says who exactly. Lets wait and see hey.

people that regularly watch the juniors for years, apparently
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1473 on: October 19, 2015, 11:17:47 AM »
Show time. lets see how ballsy the club

If tom bell is worth 21 conca is worth at least mid teens based on where he was selected not talent.. Hopefully the club understands this and trades the bum out.

You're making an huge assumption there Angus and that is there is another club who wants him

Can't trade 'em out if no one wants them

 

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1474 on: October 19, 2015, 11:20:13 AM »
someone would want concs
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1475 on: October 19, 2015, 11:27:22 AM »
someone would want concs

Not so sure about that myself

But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B

That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1476 on: October 19, 2015, 11:28:32 AM »
maybe not a first rounder

but surely someone would pay 20-30 for concs

someone would want concs

Not so sure about that myself

But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B

That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough

i like b ellis but the boy is a bit of a squib

if we can get #12 for him you'd jump at that

i am convinced the club is run for a pack of baboons
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1477 on: October 19, 2015, 11:30:14 AM »
someone would want concs

Not so sure about that myself

But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B

That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1478 on: October 19, 2015, 11:32:22 AM »
someone would want concs

Not so sure about that myself

But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B

That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?

if we traded #12 for b ellis ...

and then, as far as i am aware we still have our first rounder pick

you could give those two to gws for trelor ... no amount of insider trading / dodgy afl dealings could stop that getting done ...
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1479 on: October 19, 2015, 12:01:03 PM »
someone would want concs

Not so sure about that myself

But I have no doubt there is one young player on our list that would get us a 1st round pick and probably earlier than 12 but we won't trade him and that's Ellis B

That's what I mean when I say our club isn't daring enough
Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?

if we traded #12 for b ellis ...

and then, as far as i am aware we still have our first rounder pick

you could give those two to gws for trelor ... no amount of insider trading / dodgy afl dealings could stop that getting done ...
I think that one is black and white (pardon the pun), of course we'd do it. But I'm less attracted to the idea of trading B Ellis for the sake of trading.

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1480 on: October 19, 2015, 12:08:18 PM »
GEELONG pair Josh Walker and Jarrad Jansen will join the Brisbane Lions for a future third-round draft pick.

Lions list manager Peter Schwab confirmed on Monday morning to NAB AFL Trade Radio the deal would soon be formalised.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/cats-off-to-the-lions-for-future-pick


Steve Johnson is all but certain to be playing with Greater Western Sydney next year, according to Brisbane Lions list manager Peter Schwab.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2015-10-19/stevie-j-set-to-play-on-at-giants

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1481 on: October 19, 2015, 12:12:57 PM »
Schwab: "We've had a lot of discussions but nothing formal (with Collingwood on James Aish).

"We don't want it to come out as 'James Aish for a second round pick', that won't get it done. If it's that he'll go pre-season."

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1482 on: October 19, 2015, 12:15:30 PM »
if we can get #12 for him you'd jump at that


We have pick 12 - that is a our first round pick.  ::)

What I am saying is Ellis B, could get us earlier than that.

So if traded for an earlier pick then we can trade pick 12 for Yarran (seeing they are so comitted to getting him) and we are no worse off in the draft, actually we become better off


Is it worth it to trade a genuine first round pick who's surpassed his value, with 4 years of solid development for another first rounder in a weak draft?

I think that your comment is open to debate to be honest. I don't think he has surpassed his value, agree about solid development but the question how much further will he develop?

I'll be honest (and everyone on here knows I am not fan of his) I'm not sure how much more he can improve. I think he is one of those players who gets alot of kicks but how much quality is in those possessions? the little dinky short kicks suggest not much at all. When he is on and prepared to attack contests he is good but when he isn't well he isn't so great

I would expect Ellis C, to surpass him very quickly indeed
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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1483 on: October 19, 2015, 12:22:07 PM »
B Ellis for Yarran and an upgrade of our first round pick would be worth it. Couldn't see it happening though.

Look at the last 10 years round 15 pick and tell me where Ellis slots in? I'd say he's one of the better ones. Varcoe went 15 from memory, but if you're arguing we could get a better than pick 12 for Ellis then you also think he's surpassed his potential.  ;D ;D

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Re: Trade/FA rumours
« Reply #1484 on: October 19, 2015, 12:24:56 PM »
Terry Wallace said on SEN earlier as he was asked by a caller, looks like Tigers put all their hopes into aquire Treloar and Yarran and we're shocked when Treloar chose Pies. He also said with all the work we put into getting Treloar were on the back foot to land another big name player like him.
Also said he'd be really dissapointed if we gave up 12 for Yarran.
Personally I agree with him and if the club comes out of this with Yarran and nothing else to propel us further into the top 8 then they can get lost. 2 players is hardly going to satisfy our list needs.
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