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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2015, 08:39:03 PM »
On the other hand, if he comes back refreshed, is fit by the the start of the season and has a good year it may show that the excessive work load is counter productive?

only time will tell.
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2015, 08:42:57 PM »
Please. It's ridiculous to suggest he signed on for half of what he was offered elsewhere which is what you originally did. And I have contacts at Freo so don't even try, you don't know what he was offered.

Should be on 900k give me a break. He probably was our best player last year but Cotchin, Riewoldt & Deledio have done far more over the course of their careers and none of them ask for an extra 3 months off

Where did you pull 3 months from ? Clearly your date
Players returned during the week & break for xmas in 3 weeks, they then return in January along with  Rancey, at worst he misses 4 weeks FFS

We finish in September, he returns in January. You're right, that's 4 months away not 3.
You clearly stated an extra 3 months off. When you take the Christmas break into account, it's barely 4 weeks extra leave. Hardly something that the club would baulk at if it meant signing him, especially for unders.
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2015, 08:48:12 PM »
Press conferences are for when someone has some REAL news

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2015, 08:54:34 PM »
Please. It's ridiculous to suggest he signed on for half of what he was offered elsewhere which is what you originally did. And I have contacts at Freo so don't even try, you don't know what he was offered.

Should be on 900k give me a break. He probably was our best player last year but Cotchin, Riewoldt & Deledio have done far more over the course of their careers and none of them ask for an extra 3 months off

Where did you pull 3 months from ? Clearly your date
Players returned during the week & break for xmas in 3 weeks, they then return in January along with  Rancey, at worst he misses 4 weeks FFS

We finish in September, he returns in January. You're right, that's 4 months away not 3.

As you are clearly not interested in a factual discussion , I will leave you to entertain yourself

FTR, I shouldn't have said extra 3 months. I meant how long he'd be getting off in total compared to our best players (Lids Cotch Jack) and everyone else on the list really. My mistake
Though you blokes are kidding yourself if you don't think the players have an issue with how much longer he gets off. Sorry, but they return in November and he returns in January. That's a much longer break whatever way u want to spin it

Please. It's ridiculous to suggest he signed on for half of what he was offered elsewhere which is what you originally did. And I have contacts at Freo so don't even try, you don't know what he was offered.

Should be on 900k give me a break. He probably was our best player last year but Cotchin, Riewoldt & Deledio have done far more over the course of their careers and none of them ask for an extra 3 months off

Where did you pull 3 months from ? Clearly your date
Players returned during the week & break for xmas in 3 weeks, they then return in January along with  Rancey, at worst he misses 4 weeks FFS

We finish in September, he returns in January. You're right, that's 4 months away not 3.
You clearly stated an extra 3 months off. When you take the Christmas break into account, it's barely 4 weeks extra leave. Hardly something that the club would baulk at if it meant signing him, especially for unders.

And you said Rance was signed up for half of what Fremantle offered him. And you meant it  :snidegrin

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2015, 08:56:17 PM »
On the other hand, if he comes back refreshed, is fit by the the start of the season and has a good year it may show that the excessive work load is counter productive?

only time will tell.

who knows. would be good to havethe entire group was together pre-christmas though IMO. I don't think anyone should be considered above the rest of the team even if he is a star player.

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2015, 09:02:04 PM »
the best thing rance can do in the offseason is convert grigg so we dont have to see him for another 2 months

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2015, 09:05:11 PM »
On the other hand, if he comes back refreshed, is fit by the the start of the season and has a good year it may show that the excessive work load is counter productive?

only time will tell.

who knows. would be good to havethe entire group was together pre-christmas though IMO. I don't think anyone should be considered above the rest of the team even if he is a star player.
agree, dont like the one rule for some and another for others.
(bit like how one person can post something but another cannot quote that post without the censors kicking in, here)

I do wonder, though, if you maintain some semblance of fitness, how long does it take to get up to max fitness? surely 10-12 weeks is enough?

Is starting pre season before christmas  actually counter productive rather than beneficial, in the longer term?
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2015, 09:06:34 PM »
the best thing rance can do in the offseason is convert grigg so we dont have to see him for another 2 months
better than doing what the bible tells him to and going out and killing some muslims?
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Nor are your ways my ways,” says the Lord.
 
“For as the heavens are higher than the earth,
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And my thoughts than your thoughts."

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2015, 09:19:27 PM »
On the other hand, if he comes back refreshed, is fit by the the start of the season and has a good year it may show that the excessive work load is counter productive?

only time will tell.

who knows. would be good to havethe entire group was together pre-christmas though IMO. I don't think anyone should be considered above the rest of the team even if he is a star player.
agree, dont like the one rule for some and another for others.
(bit like how one person can post something but another cannot quote that post without the censors kicking in, here)

I do wonder, though, if you maintain some semblance of fitness, how long does it take to get up to max fitness? surely 10-12 weeks is enough?

Is starting pre season before christmas  actually counter productive rather than beneficial, in the longer term?

 :thumbsup :snidegrin

It's hard to say what the best start date truly is. If only there was someone here who knows, someone to enlighten us. maybe a doctor?

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2015, 09:58:33 PM »
I'm just sitting on the fence here so not taking a side, but is he not only missing 3 or 4 weeks more than the rest of the group? He would have only gone back to train with the rest of the older group this week and they all break up again for Christmas anyway. If he's professional enough he will keep up some sort of personal training regime that I'm sure would be worked out with the club fitness staff. I don't mind if that's the case, but if he does come back underdone then he can get stuffed  ;D

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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2015, 11:13:15 PM »
Please. It's ridiculous to suggest he signed on for half of what he was offered elsewhere which is what you originally did. And I have contacts at Freo so don't even try, you don't know what he was offered.

Should be on 900k give me a break. He probably was our best player last year but Cotchin, Riewoldt & Deledio have done far more over the course of their careers and none of them ask for an extra 3 months off

Where did you pull 3 months from ? Clearly your date
Players returned during the week & break for xmas in 3 weeks, they then return in January along with  Rancey, at worst he misses 4 weeks FFS

We finish in September, he returns in January. You're right, that's 4 months away not 3.

As you are clearly not interested in a factual discussion , I will leave you to entertain yourself

FTR, I shouldn't have said extra 3 months. I meant how long he'd be getting off in total compared to our best players (Lids Cotch Jack) and everyone else on the list really. My mistake
Though you blokes are kidding yourself if you don't think the players have an issue with how much longer he gets off. Sorry, but they return in November and he returns in January. That's a much longer break whatever way u want to spin it

Please. It's ridiculous to suggest he signed on for half of what he was offered elsewhere which is what you originally did. And I have contacts at Freo so don't even try, you don't know what he was offered.

Should be on 900k give me a break. He probably was our best player last year but Cotchin, Riewoldt & Deledio have done far more over the course of their careers and none of them ask for an extra 3 months off

Where did you pull 3 months from ? Clearly your date
Players returned during the week & break for xmas in 3 weeks, they then return in January along with  Rancey, at worst he misses 4 weeks FFS

We finish in September, he returns in January. You're right, that's 4 months away not 3.
You clearly stated an extra 3 months off. When you take the Christmas break into account, it's barely 4 weeks extra leave. Hardly something that the club would baulk at if it meant signing him, especially for unders.

And you said Rance was signed up for half of what Fremantle offered him. And you meant it  :snidegrin
So barely over 3 weeks extra leave that the senior group agreed to is a problem for you? Seriously, what are you going on about? Sure in the ideal world everyone has the same conditions. But no one is on the same pay either yet we all accept that. It meant that Rance stayed at Richmond and if that was the price it took to keep him, it was a damn good bargain!
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2015, 11:20:53 PM »
Barely over 3 weeks leave lol. He finished playing in September and won't return until January. As far as I know, every single player in the AFL apart from Rance returns in November. But hey who cares right, it's not unusual or unfair on the other boys.
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #27 on: November 29, 2015, 12:02:22 AM »
Barely over 3 weeks leave lol. He finished playing in September and won't return until January. As far as I know, every single player in the AFL apart from Rance returns in November. But hey who cares right, it's not unusual or unfair on the other boys.

I said barely over 3 weeks extra leave. Not Total leave!
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #28 on: November 29, 2015, 06:48:48 AM »
Press conferences are for when someone has some REAL news

Lol

About 2/3rds of all press conferences are PR orchestrated by the corporate affairs dept of the organisation
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Re: Brett Deledio press conference - 27/11/15
« Reply #29 on: November 29, 2015, 12:32:22 PM »
Barely over 3 weeks leave lol. He finished playing in September and won't return until January. As far as I know, every single player in the AFL apart from Rance returns in November. But hey who cares right, it's not unusual or unfair on the other boys.

Actual there is one other AFL player who gets extra time and that is Nick Riewoldt

He doesn't return to preseason until mid January. Being doing it a couple of years now. Gets extra time because his wife is from the USA

Also, it was well documented that Geelong over the years have given their older players extra time off, ditto Hawthorn more recently

So it's not a new thing as such.
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