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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #555 on: December 12, 2015, 06:36:20 PM »
Female vultures, picking over the carcass of of dead game.
Typical.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #556 on: December 12, 2015, 07:31:31 PM »
Can someone explain how this trouble maker has managed to keep her identity secret? How is this even possible

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #557 on: December 12, 2015, 08:06:00 PM »
And yet she's head of the dusty disciplinary committee ...
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #558 on: December 12, 2015, 08:35:27 PM »
Bitch! should've tripped with the chopstick and planted it!

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #559 on: December 12, 2015, 09:03:12 PM »
Can someone explain how this trouble maker has managed to keep her identity secret? How is this even possible
Yeah I'm surprised , will come out soon enough, I reckon
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Re: Tale of troubled Tiger Dustin (Herald-Sun)
« Reply #560 on: December 13, 2015, 05:38:59 AM »
Tale of troubled Tiger Dustin

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12 December 2015


IF his off-field life can often be described as chaotic, the same can never be applied to Dustin Martin’s AFL journey, where even before being drafted in 2009 he declared he was “born to play AFL”.

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A star on field, Dustin Martin's life off the ground is not so professional

"IF his off-field life can often be described as chaotic, the same can never be applied to Dustin Martin’s AFL journey, where even before being drafted in 2009 he declared he was “born to play AFL”.

It was a comment that belied a quiet and normally respectful nature, one widely at odds with allegedly threatening a patron with menace, his weapon of choice being a chopstick, in a trendy Melbourne eatery.

That he was correct in his assessment he was born for the AFL was fortuitous given his departure from Castlemaine High School at the end of year 9 suggested a career in academia was unlikely.

But don’t assume he is dumb like one AFL club did in the rigorous pre-draft interviews that sometimes delve into areas that have little or no relevance to whether a young man can succeed in the big time.

He was actually asked “are you dumb?” in a challenging and potentially hurtful moment for a teenager.

Far from being offended by the accusation of potential stupidity, Martin thought the question “fair enough”.

Indeed, he has been on the record in his rare interviews as saying he regrets leaving school so early and is at times embarrassed by it.

A scholar he may not be but there is a brain and it does tick over, although his natural shyness, decision to acquire neck tattoos by age 20 and preference for holiday destinations such as Las Vegas suggest someone who lives very much for the moment.

What happens on his annual end-of-season overseas jaunts with his like-minded Collingwood buddy, Dane Swan, stays on the trip.

Although when travelling to Vegas it’s safe to assume they don’t acquaint themselves historically with the 1855 travels of William Bringhurst and his 29 Mormon missionaries who travelled from Utah to settle in the Las Vegas Valley.

If looking for historical guidance Martin and Swan presumably lean more towards the work of Bugsy Siegel and Meyer Lansky, who helped establish the ca-sino gambling strips that define Vegas.

Certainly, the 24-year-old likes to have a good time, like any young man his age.

But having a good time crossed over into something much darker and more unpredictable in a trendy Windsor restaurant last Saturday night.

Martin spent Friday evening having dinner with close friends and playing with flatmate, former Richmond bad boy, Daniel Connors’ children.

The pair have continued to share digs even though Connors was sacked and Martin suspended for two weeks by Richmond Football Club in 2012 over a prescription drugs issue. The pair had missed a Tuesday training session after taking sleeping pills.

Martin rose early the next day and went for a 3km run before joining up with a group of friends at music festival Stereosonic, which started at noon, at Melbourne Showgrounds.

He was in a relaxed and mischievous mood, having a few drinks and willingly posing up for selfies with fans and sticking his tongue out at the camera in one taken at 1.20pm.

Late afternoon, he was still posing up for pictures but his playful antics were subdued and he could barely muster a smile.

Just before 8.30pm — still sporting his Stereosonic wristband — he turned up with a mate at trendy Mr Miyagi’s restaurant and bar in Chapel St.

A queue snaked outside the restaurant on to the footpath as it did most nights of the week. The food and atmosphere is popular among diners hankering for a taste of the Miyagi Fried Chicken or a roast duck roti wrap.

The two joined the queue where one person said Martin was stumbling on his feet and slurring his words.

“He was extremely erratic and all over the place,” the diner said.

“He wasn’t aggressive at that stage but you could see he wasn’t right — you could see it in his eyes, he was slurring his words and just in space land, not with it at all.”

It wasn’t long before a Miyagi staff member appeared, greeted Martin with a handshake and ushered the two inside.

“They seemed to know each other, and he went straight in, past the queue,” another diner said.

The pair propped at the bar, at the far end of the restaurant, drinking shots of sake — Martin having three in one hour, according to a patron inside. He was seen heading to the bathroom several times in that period.

Another diner said Martin kept bumping into customers as he struggled to keep steady on his feet.

He bought shots of sake for two women having dinner, after repeatedly nudging into them.

Martin started getting rowdy and messing around with a set of chopsticks. It was a difficult spectacle to ignore.

One diner said he began approaching diners, hitting the tables with the chopsticks as though he were playing the drums.

Red-eyed and seemingly only just functioning, he posed for his last selfie of the night at 9.42 — still clutching one of the wooden chopsticks in his right hand. Minutes later, he stuck two chopsticks in his mouth and pretended to be a walrus — with matching sound effects.

Some grinned through gritted teeth then looked away as he moved on to other unsuspecting diners.

Others were not so impressed.

One, a 30-year-old Sydney woman, beckoned him over to her table, immediately behind the bar where he had been drinking. It was 10pm.

She politely pointed out that he was a recognisable face — people knew who he was — and perhaps it was best for him to calm down.

The victim alleges Martin towered over her seat, held a chopstick above her eye and threatened to stab her in the face with it.

“You’re gonna dob on me, are you?” he erupted. “Don’t tell me how to live my life. I’ll f------ kill you’.” He then slammed his open palm into a wall just above her head.

“It was extremely intimidating,” the woman said.

Other diners said Martin exploded with rage.

“He was very aggressive, snarling and swearing,” one said.

Witnesses described Martin’s friend trying to pull him away from the table before a manager stepped in.

They grabbed his arm and led him from the premises, still abusing the woman.

A co-owner of Mr Miyagi’s, who would not give his name, initially denied anything had happened before later admitting: “Something went down.”

“He was here with a mate, just sitting at the bar,” he said after consulting with other co-owners.

“An incident happened, some words were said, something went down and I think the manager went over and he was told it was probably best to leave, or I think he knew he should, and he walked out.”

He denied anything happened with a chopstick or that a wall was hit.

Martin was a regular at the trendy venue and was “a nice guy”.

Mr Miyagi’s bar and restaurant has gone above and beyond its liquor licence requirements by having CCTV cameras — both inside and out — installed.

However, not a single camera was working on the night.

“They’re being upgraded and none of them are working,” the co-owner said.

“They stopped working 10 or 12 days ago. We are getting new ones next week, on the 16th.

“If it happened a week earlier, or a week later, it would have all been on there.”

Martin has apologised to the woman involved and blamed “too much drink” for what happened — not that he can remember any of it.

No matter the outcome of investigations into the incident, there is no denying Martin’s football talent. Some commentators predict it is his on-field behaviour that may save his career.

His progression through junior footy ranks was largely unspectacular until his breakout 2009 season with both the Bendigo Pioneers and Victorian U18 Metro team at the National Championships.

Martin’s coach for Vic Metro was Robert Hyde, highly respected for his work with the Calder Cannons and a former defender with Collingwood won the 1976 Copeland Trophy before knee injuries ruined his career.

“Dustin Martin just came out of the blue in that season. Because he hadn’t been through the system like some of the other boys he hadn’t formed a lot of relationships and his nature was one where he just wanted to play footy, someone who never said much and kept to himself,” said Hyde.

“But he was a good enough kid, no drama. He just came in and did what he was asked to do and never complained. A nice enough young man. He would just sit in the group and plod along until he got his chance to play footy and then he was explosive.

“When you first looked at his body shape he was a bit solid around here and there but he just kept finding the footy.

“I actually thought he might struggle when he went to AFL level because he just used to push off blokes but he does exactly the same thing now. He’s just like a big bull. He puts the old mitt out and off they (his opponents) go.”

In an injury-interrupted career Hyde played with and against a pair of footballers in Sam Kekovich and Tim Watson who he believes Martin resembles: “He has that burst of power that Sam Kekovich and Tim Watson had. But Tim used to sometimes jump over them whereas Dustin just runs through them, an AFL version of All Black legend Jonah Lomu.

“At 187cm he is the same height as Kekovich and a bit taller than Watson (185cm) while he is 5-6kg lighter at 89-90kg. But the increased running in today’s game would mean those two would have to lose weight to adapt.

“Because of his background, Dustin didn’t have a huge tank so we rotated him heavily through the midfield and occasionally forward.

“Like David Rodan he had that sideways step that caused havoc for his opponents. He was a power athlete who was hard to tackle.”

He was all those things in 2009 and remains them today in an on-field career that had progressed to a point where many rate him Richmond’s most lethal weapon. He continues to play the game with brute force yet he plays it largely in a fair fashion.

He has never been rubbed out, his hiccups coming via fines for a two-fingered salute to Collingwood fans in August this year and a handcuff gesture to Carlton supporters in 2013.

Indeed his only suspension came via the club in 2012 when he and then housemate Daniel Connors missed training after sleeping in, resulting in two matches out for Martin and Connors being sacked.

It’s interesting to revisit his draft year and ask a current AFL recruiting person would they have taken Martin both then and now: “He was clearly really, really talented even if there were alarm bells there. Would we have taken him at the time? Probably, although the landscape has changed in six years. And it depends where your club is at.

“You talk through the risk management and if you take him then you bank on your culture to get him through. But if you have a player or players on your list who could be problems, then you mightn’t tempt fate.”

Martin is contracted to Richmond until the end of 2017 although his latest transgression will surely see the Tigers tempted should the right deal come their way in Trade Week next October.

But would they receive full market value?

Martin is now in the same category as Harley Bennell found himself this year after a series of stuff-ups.

The Gold Coast took Bennell with Pick 2 and then five years later, after he proved he could seriously play, got Picks 16 and 35 from Fremantle while giving up 22.

That isn’t great reward for a super talent but that’s what happens when you acquire baggage. It will be the same with Martin should Richmond decide to roll the dice.

That would be a massive call from the Tigers given the extensive work they have put into trying to help Martin become a responsible citizen.

Former President Gary March and his wife Beverley remain both friends and mentors of Martin, although March preferred not to comment this week other than to say his family “support Dustin 100 per cent”.

The Martin believers, such as March and Richmond assistant coach Mark Williams, will continue to support a young man who can be easy to like.

Whether Richmond displays the same belief and patience will be determined by how Martin responds to his latest and most public accusation.

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Chop or stick? The Dustin Martin mess (Age)
« Reply #561 on: December 13, 2015, 05:40:38 AM »
Chop or stick? The Dustin Martin mess
Jake Niall
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13 December 2015



The Dustin Martin case has turned into a nightmare on Punt Road and Harbour Boulevard because, for various reasons, the police were not involved from the outset.

Regardless of what happens to Martin in the police investigation, there should be – and probably will be – some fallout for the AFL, which needs to rethink how its integrity unit operates. The Martin mess poses the question of when the AFL should wade knee-deep into an allegation, when it should dip the toe into a murky matter and when it should just let a nasty ball go through to Adam Gilchrist.

The choice is not always easy. Complaints will be made, like this one, when the alleged victim doesn't want police involved. In today's world, they cannot be ignored.

But for the AFL to avoid getting caught out means letting balls go and dead batting others and leaving them to police, however imperfect the consequences.

Where should the integrity unit jump in? If the matter has a direct impact on the competition – such as doping and gambling offences – then the AFL can be more proactive and play some shots. Tanking or the Bulldogs-Talia investigation are likewise appropriate matters for the AFL.

An accusation that a footballer has threatened to kill a woman with a chopstick at a restaurant, clearly, belongs in police hands. Had this happened immediately after the allegations were aired, then Richmond and the league wouldn't have found themselves in a pickle. Unfortunately, the woman made her initial complaint to Richmond.

One way to  understand better what has gone awry with Martin is to compare this episode with the Majak Daw rape case, in which Daw was investigated, charged and ultimately found not guilty of three counts of raping a girl seven years earlier.

North Melbourne first learnt  that Daw might be charged when a journalist phoned the player and asked him if he knew he was under investigation. Daw informed the club, which made two important calls. One was to support the player, pending the outcome of the investigation and any charges. Daw would be treated as innocent until proven guilty. The other call was to do nothing. Daw wasn't disciplined, or hauled before the leadership group. In part, this was because the incident had occurred seven years earlier, two weeks or so after his 16th birthday (the complainant was 15 at the time).

Daw went to court, stood trial and on December 2 – a few days before Martin's mishap – he was cleared by the County Court.

North Melbourne handled the Daw incident deftly, because there was  a period of about two weeks between the club learning about the investigation and the charges being laid. They spoke to Daw, but their legal advice was that they should not delve into the matter because, if they did discover certain facts, they could be called to give evidence.

But North's road map was clearer, their position easier to navigate since the complainant went to police, not the club. The underlying problem in the Martin case is that there is a huge gulf between the severity of the allegation – threatening to kill, by a drunken, physically intimidating footballer – and the initial course of action the woman chose, which was to phone the club and seek some (non-criminal) form of redress.

It is entirely understandable that the woman concerned would not want the police involved. Inevitably, a person making serious allegations will be questioned, their credibility probed and, due to the passion of supporters and media interest, abused on social media. There isn't much upside to taking the allegation to police, except that you will be dealing with an investigation without a vested interest in an outcome.

That the woman also happened to be a Channel Seven employee was another complication. In airing the allegation on her employer's nightly news bulletin, she raised the stakes. If she had said Martin was drunken and offensive, but not threatening violence, then the story might have died. Richmond could have disciplined Martin internally, everyone could have moved on.

Martin did issue an apology, which ultimately hasn't sufficed. From what has been reported, the woman is aggrieved by the AFL's investigation, and feels she was being steered towards lenient treatment of Martin. She thinks she's been steered and smeared, perhaps, after Martin was named and shamed. Whatever the truth, it is undeniable that, in the court of public opinion, most people will be inclined to favour a 30-year-old woman over a footballer with Dusty's rugged countenance.

But this doesn't shape as a typical "he said, she said" story because Martin was drunk and his recollections of the incident are suitably dusty. Moreover, the alleged chopstick pointing took place in a relatively public place.

You would think there were enough onlookers to hear and see what happened. Yet on Saturday, a number of facts were still in dispute. CCTV footage would be handy here.

Richmond cannot take action on Martin until the police have done their business. If he's charged, they'll have to respect that process, too – as North did with Daw – and let him play on, pending the verdict.

In a sense, Richmond is off the hook for a while, because the ball has been taken away and handed to the police. The club can only wait and hope and recommend a QC to Dusty.

So the case could well drag on. We might not have neat and tidy outcomes either – Martin could be cleared, and the woman might still be filthy and seeking redress.

For the AFL and the clubs, this should be moment to redefine when, where and how the game should deal with delicate allegations, particularly those that are on the edge of criminal conduct (threatening to kill is more serious). They also need a clearer guide for handling an allegation when the complainant doesn't want to make trouble for herself/himself.

Brand protection is always a factor, unfortunately. All organisations are self-serving and will act in their own perceived self interest.

An enlightened sporting body, though, recognises that any attempt to "protect the brand" that misfires will cause far greater carnage to the brand. Surely the AFL understands that now.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chop-or-stick-the-dustin-martin-mess-20151212-glm4cn.html

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It's time for the AFL to walk the talk, says White Ribbon (Age)
« Reply #562 on: December 13, 2015, 05:42:16 AM »
It's time for the AFL to walk the talk, says White Ribbon
Larissa Nicholson
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13 December 2015


AFL players charged with violence against women should be stood down from playing or training until the matter is resolved, White Ribbon Australia says.

Chief executive Libby Davies made it clear she could not comment on individual players or cases, but speaking in general terms she said the AFL still had a way to go to demonstrate consistency on these matters, regardless of the quality of the player.

She said any example of men using domineering or controlling behaviour against women needed to be addressed quickly.

"It's up to the AFL to demonstrate they're walking the talk," she said. "Clubs and the AFL must make a decisive stance of zero tolerance of violence against women."

Richmond star Dustin Martin has been in the spotlight this week, after allegations he stood over a woman and threatened to stab her in the eye at Japanese restaurant Mr Miyagi last Saturday night.

After  investigating, the AFL announced on Thursday it would refer the matter to Victoria Police.

Their delay in doing so became the subject of some criticism, with questions raised over what authority the league had to examine the case.

Martin trained as usual with his teammates on Friday.

North Melbourne player Majak Daw was recently found not guilty of rape charges after having played and trained with the club while he waited for his court case to begin.

He was de-listed at the end of the 2015 season and the club picked him up again in the 2016 pre-season rookie draft.

When asked about whether the AFL would consider standing down players who faced charges of violence against women, a league spokesman said he could not comment.

He said although Davies was not speaking about any particular case, any view the AFL offered at this time would be judged in relation to Martin.

"There is a current matter that is being investigated by the police, due to its serious nature," he said.

"The AFL doesn't believe it is appropriate to be commenting around this issue while the police go through their investigation to determine what has occurred."

Davies said some clubs had been much more proactive than others in educating their players and staff about violence against women. She said within the AFL the Western Bulldogs was a leader in this area.

She said sporting clubs were a microcosm of society and they could play a significant role in mitigating men's violence against women and preventing it from happening.

"The men in sporting codes are heroes to many young men across Australia," she said.

Davies said players needed to live up to what was expected of them as role models.

"It's a big ask, but it goes along with the territory," she said.

Davies said most footballers managed to behave appropriately towards women, but it was still an issue which came up time and again.

She said when a woman made a complaint or raised an issue regarding a man's violent or threatening behaviour, it must be treated with the seriousness it deserved, especially given how difficult it could be to come forward.

This included dealing with the matter quickly, she said.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/its-time-for-the-afl-to-walk-the-talk-says-white-ribbon-20151212-glm25a.html

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #563 on: December 13, 2015, 08:08:01 AM »
Chaotic of field life :rollin
What 20 year old hasn't gone to see live music and written themselves off?
No one here has ever slept in?
I didn't even bother reading the above crap.
Queue circus music.....
Such nonsense :banghead

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #564 on: December 13, 2015, 08:26:00 AM »
This is a witch hunt
and imv Dustin was targeted from the onset
The media is unrelenting here and no one has come in to bat for the kid yet
By the time anything is done it will be too late the public have already been convinced of a verdict with fair trial

Even listening to Dangerfield comments last week as if affirming the allegations were accurate and correct before any findings...#corruptafl
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #565 on: December 13, 2015, 08:35:34 AM »
There it is..

The WP's of this world would be happy now

White ribbon has had their say. Bless..
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #566 on: December 13, 2015, 08:53:56 AM »
This is a witch hunt
and imv Dustin was targeted from the onset
The media is unrelenting here and no one has come in to bat for the kid yet
By the time anything is done it will be too late the public have already been convinced of a verdict with fair trial

Even listening to Dangerfield comments last week as if affirming the allegations were accurate and correct before any findings...#corruptafl

And when you have a supposed RFC legend like KB handing out a 12 month ban up front what hope is there

Selfish little twit

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #567 on: December 13, 2015, 09:20:26 AM »
This is a witch hunt
and imv Dustin was targeted from the onset
The media is unrelenting here and no one has come in to bat for the kid yet
By the time anything is done it will be too late the public have already been convinced of a verdict with fair trial

Even listening to Dangerfield comments last week as if affirming the allegations were accurate and correct before any findings...#corruptafl

And when you have a supposed RFC legend like KB handing out a 12 month ban up front what hope is there

Selfish little twit

I think it has been pretty poor form from the journos who are meant to be Tigers people too.

If the police lay no charges then it would be sweet revenge for Dusty to sue everyone for defamation.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #568 on: December 13, 2015, 09:24:14 AM »
This is a witch hunt
and imv Dustin was targeted from the onset
The media is unrelenting here and no one has come in to bat for the kid yet
By the time anything is done it will be too late the public have already been convinced of a verdict with fair trial

Even listening to Dangerfield comments last week as if affirming the allegations were accurate and correct before any findings...#corruptafl

refresh my memory mate was bock playing at the crows with danger? 

sit down danger you flog and worry about your own backyard champ


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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #569 on: December 13, 2015, 09:54:02 AM »
I think Blue Ribbon would chirp in and state that it is much healthier that Martin remain involved with the club during the investigation for his own personal mental well-being.

Pretty unfair to claim guilt before innocence; though it is often standard practice for people to be suspended/stood down with pay whilst investigations go on; removing a player from the club environment isn't healthy just like removing an employee from the work environment has been proven to be dangerous for the individual during an investigation process such as this.