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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #600 on: December 13, 2015, 08:47:26 PM »
Threat with a weapon... Lol
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #601 on: December 13, 2015, 08:48:22 PM »
To the Herald Sun and The Age web editors- it has been at least 5 hours since either of you have published a Dusty opinion piece. I want more uninformed articles and I want them now!

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #602 on: December 13, 2015, 09:02:00 PM »
Should we run a book on what he gets?
Crucifixion 200:1 (It is christmas after all ;) )
Beheading by Daesh Jihadi nutter 100:1
2 years hard labor no parole 50:1
Banishment to Brisbane Lions to improve their wins. 25:1 (Hmm thats pretty high odds, the AFL might actually manufacture this)
2 Weeks suspension 1.50:1
A fine and a sorry interview 1.25:1 (Why am I always reminded of that comedy show sports start apology interviews)
Other 1.02:1

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #603 on: December 13, 2015, 09:57:56 PM »
I heard it was a Chapstick
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #604 on: December 13, 2015, 10:08:19 PM »
Latest word has Martin apparently considering quitting football for Rugby Union - New Zealand seriously looking at him for their seven-a-side Olympic squad. Don't blame him really.....

Wouldn't blame him if true, the character assassination has been appalling.

Absolutely pathetic if true, with an attitude like that he'd last 2 minutes in any all blacks side. I don't agree with how he's being treated but that's the media. HTFU

Kidding yourself tough guy

no one needs to put up with that poo, not to that extent

No one needs to but in modern sport it commonly happens.
It's at the high end but I'd argue any high profile sportsman makes a blue and the media are right onto it.
If he reckons it's bad here, NZ is 10 times worse.
In fact, I'd argue it's worse in the 2 team States SA & WA.
His behaviour - like it or not - would attract the same scrutiny in any code for any club.
Leaving won't make the problem go away.
It's not about being a tough guy, right or wrong - that's how it works in modern, professional sport.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #605 on: December 13, 2015, 11:43:08 PM »
By the same token we can't automatically dismiss what she has said either.  Don't like how it was handled.  The insults getting hucked on her on here are just proving their cause and are over the top.  To play devils advocate, I have seen plenty of cocky blokes go to water without a punch being thrown when confronted so I have no difficulty believing that she might of felt genuinely frightened if he did threaten her.  If it was my missus or nieces and they were threatened, I would of run a bar stool over the back of his head.  Anyway, I think everyone should calm the stuff down and let it run it's course.  None of us were there.

Pointless post. What does it matter how any average Joe acted.

The media have started a witch hunt. There is enough devils advocates writing news articles. Any danger of showing supporting a player of our own? Pathetic.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #606 on: December 13, 2015, 11:45:40 PM »
By the same token we can't automatically dismiss what she has said either.  Don't like how it was handled.  The insults getting hucked on her on here are just proving their cause and are over the top.  To play devils advocate, I have seen plenty of cocky blokes go to water without a punch being thrown when confronted so I have no difficulty believing that she might of felt genuinely frightened if he did threaten her.  If it was my missus or nieces and they were threatened, I would of run a bar stool over the back of his head.  Anyway, I think everyone should calm the stuff down and let it run it's course.  None of us were there.

Good post Owl, very wise indeed  :thumbsup

Very wise? You have to be kidding me? Running a bar stool over the back of someones head 'Very wise indeed'? That is as a stupid comment as I've ever heard.

Yet you want to hang a bloke for getting drunk and making a stupid comment but glorify barbaric retaliation. FFS....
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #607 on: December 13, 2015, 11:46:52 PM »
Threats to kill....

Can we bring up Kevin Sheedy's throat slicing from years ago. Where was the investigation and media circus then? Any charges? Has he served his 10 year jail sentence yet?

Idiots.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #608 on: December 13, 2015, 11:53:12 PM »
Since Dusty is part Maori he probably called it a Chupstuck.  Duvustated ... just duvustated ...   :P
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #609 on: December 14, 2015, 12:07:27 AM »
I don't usually get involved in these sort of topics because I'm definitely a little old school when it comes to some things.
I must admit I don't think what Dusty did is nearly as bad as some are making out. And to hear a club legend like KB saying what he has makes me sick.
If he had of just told the bird to "stuff off and mind her own business" would we still be hearing what we have or is it because he threatened to stab her?
I know it's not great but does anyone really think that's what Dusty meant? To actually stab her??
It was just a drunk idiot reacting to a girl that was sticking her nose in where she new it would get a reaction. Tell the waiter, tell the manager but if you want to confront a drunk guy be ready for what might come back. Male or female...
Dusty has said he was sorry to the young lady, the club should make him pay a fine to a charity and we should move on.
The world is going mad if they think he should get much more than that IMO.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #610 on: December 14, 2015, 02:02:23 AM »
From the Legal Aid website:

Violent behaviour

Violent behaviour is any behaviour that causes another person any injury to the body that interferes with a person’s health or comfort, or that places them in fear of being injured. The injury only has to be slight – it can include pain or bruising.

Violent behaviour is an offence and can carry very serious penalties.

If you are charged with an offence relating to violent behaviour get legal advice quickly.

You don’t have to make physical contact with someone to be charged with a violence-related offence. Placing a person in fear that you will be violent towards them can also be an offence, including:

* threatening to harm someone
* being physically intimidating, such as standing over someone.

It does not matter whether you intend to harm the other person or not, as long as you intend them to believe that you will.

Charges

If you commit a violent act, the crime you’re charged with will depend on:

* the injuries suffered by the victim
* what you meant to happen (your intention)
* what you should have realised would happen as a result of your actions.

Common charges relating to violent behaviour include:

*  assault, including sexual assault, unlawful assault and common assault
*  affray (a violent disturbance of the peace)
*  causing injury or serious injury
*  homicide, including manslaughter and murder
*  aggravated burglary
*  robbery (theft with violence or the threat of violence)
*  threats to kill
*  threats to inflict serous injury.

Which court hears the charges depends on how serious the charge is. The Supreme Court hears cases where someone has died as a result of a violent act.

Penalties

Penalties for committing acts of violence include fines, imprisonment, diversion programs, penalties that you serve in the community, such as community corrections orders or intensive correction orders, and paying compensation to your victim/s.

If the victim withdraws their complaint will the police drop the charges against me?

Not necessarily. The police will listen to your victim’s reasons for withdrawing the complaint against you, but once charges are laid it’s up to the police to decide whether they should be dropped. Police will usually decide based on whether there is enough evidence without your co-operation. Get legal advice.

What will the court take into account when deciding the penalty for my charge?

The court looks at a number of factors, including:

*  what you intended or what you should have realised would happen as a result of your actions
*  your police record, if you have one
*  the severity of any injuries sustained
*  whether you plead guilty
*  whether you are remorseful (sorry) about what you did
*  if you have a problem with violence, such as a history of family violence, whether you’ve been to any counselling to help you manage your violent behaviour.

Penalties for violent acts range from fines to community-based orders to imprisonment.

https://www.legalaid.vic.gov.au/find-legal-answers/criminal-offences/violent-behaviour

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #611 on: December 14, 2015, 02:39:00 AM »
Legal aid.

LMAO
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #612 on: December 14, 2015, 06:42:10 AM »
By the same token we can't automatically dismiss what she has said either.  Don't like how it was handled.  The insults getting hucked on her on here are just proving their cause and are over the top.  To play devils advocate, I have seen plenty of cocky blokes go to water without a punch being thrown when confronted so I have no difficulty believing that she might of felt genuinely frightened if he did threaten her.  If it was my missus or nieces and they were threatened, I would of run a bar stool over the back of his head.  Anyway, I think everyone should calm the stuff down and let it run it's course.  None of us were there.

Good post Owl, very wise indeed  :thumbsup

Very wise? You have to be kidding me? Running a bar stool over the back of someones head 'Very wise indeed'? That is as a stupid comment as I've ever heard.

Yet you want to hang a bloke for getting drunk and making a stupid comment but glorify barbaric retaliation. FFS....

lol have a sook ya poonce.  I don't like how she handled everything but I would smash your stuffing face in if you threatened my missus or called her a slag, hard to understand?  I take it you would just stand there and wet your pants or gush because it was Dusty, maybe buy him a beer?
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #613 on: December 14, 2015, 11:06:57 AM »
U all talk poo.

If it was ur mrs, you'd be embarrassed because she made a idiot herself just like this one did.

"I'd bash someone if they did it to my daughters or wife "


Lmaooooooooo


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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #614 on: December 14, 2015, 11:16:10 AM »
By the same token we can't automatically dismiss what she has said either.  Don't like how it was handled.  The insults getting hucked on her on here are just proving their cause and are over the top.  To play devils advocate, I have seen plenty of cocky blokes go to water without a punch being thrown when confronted so I have no difficulty believing that she might of felt genuinely frightened if he did threaten her.  If it was my missus or nieces and they were threatened, I would of run a bar stool over the back of his head.  Anyway, I think everyone should calm the stuff down and let it run it's course.  None of us were there.

Good post Owl, very wise indeed  :thumbsup

Very wise? You have to be kidding me? Running a bar stool over the back of someones head 'Very wise indeed'? That is as a stupid comment as I've ever heard.

Yet you want to hang a bloke for getting drunk and making a stupid comment but glorify barbaric retaliation. FFS....

lol have a sook ya poonce.  I don't like how she handled everything but I would smash your stuffing face in if you threatened my missus or called her a slag, hard to understand?  I take it you would just stand there and wet your pants or gush because it was Dusty, maybe buy him a beer?

If your misses called me over , and interrupted my sushi / aquatic animal act. To rant its crap;

If tell you to put your slag wife/granma/daughter back on its leash.  Come at me big boy

Somehow I reckon you talk big but would poo yourself if dusty had a go at ya runty ass

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Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus