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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #750 on: December 22, 2015, 07:01:58 PM »
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #751 on: December 22, 2015, 07:05:36 PM »
The law says nothing happened.

What is the afl going to do - say something did?
What are they, the stuffn illuminati ?
Lol.

Sue the mole if not for just putting her name out there.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #752 on: December 22, 2015, 07:06:40 PM »
My take reading between the lines.
So police interview independent witnesses and don't proceed. No case to answer.
The Hun ( which is part of the same organisation as the woman making the complaint works for) reports that the woman decides not to make a statement. Why? Because her statement, if the same as her previous statements, would be at odds with all the witnesses, therefore opening her up for criminal charges against her for perjury. As it stand Dusty may now have a case for defamation.
Perjury is lying to court, she would have no criminal case to answer for if she was found to be making the whole thing up. She may be vulnerable for defamation, but most likely it would br Ch7 or the Hun that Dusty would ultimately take $$ from.

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SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53
Making false reports to police etc.

S. 53(1) amended by Nos 9554 s. 2(2)(Sch. 2 item 341), 9642 s. 2(1), 8/1998
s. 5(1), 43/2011 s. 52(1), 37/2014 s. 10(Sch. item 160.18).

    (1)     Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

Penalty:     120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/soa1966189/s53.html
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #753 on: December 22, 2015, 07:07:05 PM »
And WP, as if he doesn't remember.

That's just sound legal advice.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #754 on: December 22, 2015, 07:08:28 PM »
My take reading between the lines.
So police interview independent witnesses and don't proceed. No case to answer.
The Hun ( which is part of the same organisation as the woman making the complaint works for) reports that the woman decides not to make a statement. Why? Because her statement, if the same as her previous statements, would be at odds with all the witnesses, therefore opening her up for criminal charges against her for perjury. As it stand Dusty may now have a case for defamation.
Perjury is lying to court, she would have no criminal case to answer for if she was found to be making the whole thing up. She may be vulnerable for defamation, but most likely it would br Ch7 or the Hun that Dusty would ultimately take $$ from.

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SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53
Making false reports to police etc.

S. 53(1) amended by Nos 9554 s. 2(2)(Sch. 2 item 341), 9642 s. 2(1), 8/1998
s. 5(1), 43/2011 s. 52(1), 37/2014 s. 10(Sch. item 160.18).

    (1)     Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

Penalty:     120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/soa1966189/s53.html

Which is why she didn't report to coppers
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #755 on: December 22, 2015, 07:11:24 PM »
The law didn't say nothing happened, the woman didn't make a statement. Or dropped charges or some bs like that.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #756 on: December 22, 2015, 07:14:11 PM »
They pretty much DID

A Victoria Police statement said: “Detectives from Stonnington Criminal Investigation Unit have conducted an extensive investigation after reports a woman was threatened by a man at a Chapel Street restaurant in Windsor on 5 December.”
“After reviewing CCTV footage and speaking to all parties involved, including numerous independent witnesses at the restaurant on the night, investigators determined that no criminal offence took place.
“Police take all reports of violence towards women seriously and investigate all complaints thoroughly
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #757 on: December 22, 2015, 07:14:57 PM »
The law didn't say nothing happened, the woman didn't make a statement. Or dropped charges or some bs like that.

Incorrect. The law did not state 'insufficient evidence'. It found nothing happened to break the law based on witness statements and cctv. 
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #758 on: December 22, 2015, 07:24:32 PM »
https://au.linkedin.com/in/alexander-garipoli-6a169453

This guy has something to do with it.
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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #759 on: December 22, 2015, 07:27:10 PM »
My take reading between the lines.
So police interview independent witnesses and don't proceed. No case to answer.
The Hun ( which is part of the same organisation as the woman making the complaint works for) reports that the woman decides not to make a statement. Why? Because her statement, if the same as her previous statements, would be at odds with all the witnesses, therefore opening her up for criminal charges against her for perjury. As it stand Dusty may now have a case for defamation.
Perjury is lying to court, she would have no criminal case to answer for if she was found to be making the whole thing up. She may be vulnerable for defamation, but most likely it would br Ch7 or the Hun that Dusty would ultimately take $$ from.

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SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53
Making false reports to police etc.

S. 53(1) amended by Nos 9554 s. 2(2)(Sch. 2 item 341), 9642 s. 2(1), 8/1998
s. 5(1), 43/2011 s. 52(1), 37/2014 s. 10(Sch. item 160.18).

    (1)     Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

Penalty:     120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/soa1966189/s53.html
And as no statement was made, she has no possibility of criminal charges.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #760 on: December 22, 2015, 07:30:20 PM »
My take reading between the lines.
So police interview independent witnesses and don't proceed. No case to answer.
The Hun ( which is part of the same organisation as the woman making the complaint works for) reports that the woman decides not to make a statement. Why? Because her statement, if the same as her previous statements, would be at odds with all the witnesses, therefore opening her up for criminal charges against her for perjury. As it stand Dusty may now have a case for defamation.
Perjury is lying to court, she would have no criminal case to answer for if she was found to be making the whole thing up. She may be vulnerable for defamation, but most likely it would br Ch7 or the Hun that Dusty would ultimately take $$ from.

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SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53
Making false reports to police etc.

S. 53(1) amended by Nos 9554 s. 2(2)(Sch. 2 item 341), 9642 s. 2(1), 8/1998
s. 5(1), 43/2011 s. 52(1), 37/2014 s. 10(Sch. item 160.18).

    (1)     Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

Penalty:     120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/soa1966189/s53.html
Thanks Penny. Was just going to post the same. In any case it is perjury if used in court.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #761 on: December 22, 2015, 07:40:58 PM »
My take reading between the lines.
So police interview independent witnesses and don't proceed. No case to answer.
The Hun ( which is part of the same organisation as the woman making the complaint works for) reports that the woman decides not to make a statement. Why? Because her statement, if the same as her previous statements, would be at odds with all the witnesses, therefore opening her up for criminal charges against her for perjury. As it stand Dusty may now have a case for defamation.
Perjury is lying to court, she would have no criminal case to answer for if she was found to be making the whole thing up. She may be vulnerable for defamation, but most likely it would br Ch7 or the Hun that Dusty would ultimately take $$ from.

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SUMMARY OFFENCES ACT 1966 - SECT 53
Making false reports to police etc.

S. 53(1) amended by Nos 9554 s. 2(2)(Sch. 2 item 341), 9642 s. 2(1), 8/1998
s. 5(1), 43/2011 s. 52(1), 37/2014 s. 10(Sch. item 160.18).

    (1)     Any person who falsely and with knowledge of the falsity of the report voluntarily reports or causes to be reported to any police officer or to a protective services officer that an act has been done or an event has occurred, which act or event as so reported is such as calls for an investigation by a police officer or a protective services officer shall be guilty of an offence.

Penalty:     120 penalty units or imprisonment for 1 year.

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/vic/consol_act/soa1966189/s53.html
Thanks Penny. Was just going to post the same. In any case it is perjury if used in court.
Its not mate. Perjury is directly lying under oath to a court. A prosecutor may simply ask "are you willing to have your statement shown to the court" in which case, yes she could be convicted of perjury.

But as the current events that:
Martin was in the restaurant,
The unnamed woman was in the restaurant
There was an altercation between the two

She couldn't possibly be found guilty of making a false statement anyway.

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #762 on: December 22, 2015, 07:46:59 PM »
I was taking the pee out of the herald sun statement. Refuse to accept they were wrong

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #763 on: December 22, 2015, 08:00:50 PM »
Why would we punish him if he hasn't broken any law?

Threatening to kill someone is breaking the law. So the police must have found he didn't actually do that.

defamation anybody?

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Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Martin Asked to Leave Restaurant / Apologises to Female Patron
« Reply #764 on: December 22, 2015, 08:02:40 PM »
The media treatment of Dustin and the whole incident has been absolutely disgraceful.

Should of had a spear and done a war dance at kids.
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus