Author Topic: Vickery agrees to terms with Hawks / We get pick 26 as compo [update]  (Read 53515 times)

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2016, 09:01:29 AM »
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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2016, 10:14:28 AM »
Begin talks with Freo ASAP, a desperate Lyon may just be tempted. Take whatever we can get and 'make off like a thief in the night'. Chol (and hopefully McBean) will go straight past him next year in any event.

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2016, 01:30:06 PM »
Begin talks with Freo ASAP, a desperate Lyon may just be tempted. Take whatever we can get and 'make off like a thief in the night'. Chol (and hopefully McBean) will go straight past him next year in any event.

Like the sound of this, but realistically he can leave for nothing and we'd be stupid AF to match any offer made by any club.

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2016, 02:22:13 PM »
If he's half a forward and half a ruckman do you think we could get a real KPF or ruckman for him?

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2016, 02:33:18 PM »
If he's half a forward and half a ruckman do you think we could get a real KPF or ruckman for him?

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2016, 03:04:36 PM »
If we do lose Vickery what would we get as compensation? First round pick immediately after our first round pick?

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2016, 03:32:42 PM »
If we do lose Vickery what would we get as compensation? First round pick immediately after our first round pick?
Depends on what the contract he is offered is.....
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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2016, 03:42:45 PM »
If we do lose Vickery what would we get as compensation? First round pick immediately after our first round pick?
Depends on what the contract he is offered is.....
Id guess he would need to be offered around thr 500 mark if he was to leave, which would put it at end of first round. Wouldnt be the worst result in a rebuild

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2016, 08:19:33 PM »
seriously hope he gets snapped up by another club, dont care if we even get a 3rd or 4th rounder. Just FHO and Griff too

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2016, 08:34:37 PM »
seriously hope he gets snapped up by another club, dont care if we even get a 3rd or 4th rounder. Just FHO and Griff too
Has to be worth a box of crispy cremes at least. A bit ironic anyway some cremes for a creme puff lol.

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Re: 2016 free agents - Vickery
« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2016, 08:45:31 PM »
this year is the last year of compo picks

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Vickery agrees to terms with Hawks [update]
« Reply #26 on: September 15, 2016, 07:53:07 PM »
Tyrone Vickery trade: Richmond is considering matching Hawthorn’s free agent offer to force a trade

Jake Niall
Foxsports
15 September 2016


RICHMOND is considering matching a free agent offer for Tyrone Vickery, in a move that could force Hawthorn to trade for the forward.

The Tigers have indicated to third parties that they would match an offer for Vickery if that offer does not provide the club with adequate compensation in the draft.

Hawthorn has reportedly made Vickery a three year offer. Under the usual pattern of free agency, Vickery’s current club would simply let him leave and accept whatever draft pick his contract earns.

But the Tigers, clearly, recognise that if Hawthorn hands Vickery a modest contract then the compensation pick will be in the later rounds of the draft. Carlton did not receive any compensation for Jarrad Waite, who joined North Melbourne on a two year deal at end of 2014.

The Tigers can match any offer because Vickery is a restricted free agent — which places him in the top 25 per cent for player payments at Richmond. Vickery is understood to have been paid more than $400,000 this year.

Richmond does not have an offer on the table for Vickery, who is overseas.

If the Tigers aren’t bluffing and they do match a Vickery offer, this could force the Hawks to give up a draft pick for the tall forward, in what could be a small complication to Hawthorn’s plans to land Gold Coast midfielder Jaeger O’Meara and Sydney’s Tom Mitchell.

Technically no club has formally matched a free agent offer, although the Adelaide Crows effectively did so by telling Geelong that they would match the six year offer for Patrick Dangerfield — a move that compelled the Cats to trade for the superstar, rather than picking him up for nothing.

For the Cats, the advantage of trading for Dangerfield was that it enabled them to acquire the superstar on a highly affordable contract — close to $850,000 per season — and they did not have to increase their offer to an astronomical level that Adelaide wouldn’t match.

Vickery has had an indifferent 2016 and ended the season in the VFL, as the Tigers trialled younger players. He has shown considerable ability in the past, however, and is a proven goalkicker. He booted 36 goals in 2011 and 31 goals in 15 games in 2015.

Hawthorn confirmed earlier this week that O’Meara has requested a trade to the Hawks.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-is-considering-matching-hawthorns-free-agent-offer-for-tyrone-vickery-to-force-a-trade/news-story/c2825a5bf80032344307ae64a8fc66cf

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Well I would think that goes without saying to be honest, as much as some will be  :banghead.

If the Hawks offered him 300's then I'd expect we'd get next to nothing, but if it was 500 plus we'd be looking at a second rounder.

Purely speculation but I would think the Hawks would offer him around about the same amount that he was on with us and this is the point where it gets a little interesting. Would 400's be enough to secure us a 2nd rounder.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong but, ultimately, whilst we know the criteria for allocation of compensation picks but we won't know what its actual worth is - that's for the AFL to decide?

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Absolute joke if true! Just stuff him off, I dont care what we get, he's worth jack poo to us and anything we get is a bonus.


The formula is apparently largely to do with what percentage of afl players the contract $$$ will fall into

for example - if its in the top 10% of paid players then that = 1st rounder (top 5% early 1st rounder)
top 20-25% early 2nd rounder
top 35-40% late 2nd rounder etc etc

Plus you add the special afl commission sauce and walla Bobs your uncle. Seriously, no-one can be sure, they seem to change the goalposts whenever it suits their agenda

BTW have it on good authority Ty has been on between $400-450k

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