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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2016, 08:43:24 PM »
Was hoping it would be a five year contract so as to have some stability
5 is way too short for stability.  Sydney gave Lance 10 and he was just a player! It's the least we could do for Dimma!
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #16 on: March 07, 2016, 09:02:24 PM »
I cant post the article at the moment

But Fox Sports are saying the 2 year extension is the recommendation of Benny Gale
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #17 on: March 07, 2016, 09:30:06 PM »
I cant post the article at the moment

But Fox Sports are saying the 2 year extension is the recommendation of Benny Gale

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #18 on: March 07, 2016, 09:35:29 PM »
Damien Hardwick set for new Tigers deal before round one

AFL.com.au
March 7, 2016


RICHMOND is set to extend Damien Hardwick's contract before round one and spare the coach an uncertain start to the season.

AFL.com.au has confirmed the Tigers are preparing to offer the coach a two-year extension, taking him through to the end of 2018.

With 17 days before the club's season opener against Carlton on March 24, an announcement is expected before the ball is bounced to launch a defining season for the coach.

The new terms could see the 43-year-old become just the third man to coach more than 200 games with Richmond, joining club greats Jack Dyer and Tom Hafey.

He would also draw within reach of Hafey's record of 248 games in charge. 

Hardwick has led the Tigers to the finals in each of the past three seasons but his team has been unable to clear the first hurdle, bowing out in three straight elimination finals.

He was set to enter 2016 under mounting pressure, but the Tigers will avoid that distraction by making his appointment official before round one.

Hardwick has led the Tigers in 135 games for a winning record of 66-67 (49 per cent) with two draws.

He turned the club's season around in 2015 after a poor start, leading them to 13 wins from their last 16 games.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-03-07/damien-hardwick-set-for-new-deal-before-round-one

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #19 on: March 07, 2016, 09:37:08 PM »
Damien Hardwick contract: Richmond coach set to have current deal extended to 2018

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Source: FOX SPORTS
March 7, 2016


RICHMOND is set to hand Damien Hardwick a two-year contract extension that would tie the coach to the Tigers until the end of 2018.

Richmond has all but agreed to a two-year extension for Hardwick, with the club board expected to approve of the deal recommended by chief executive Brendon Gale, who has been overseas on club business.

Hardwick’s management and Gale still have to finalise some details and the board has to formally approve, but the basics of the new contract have been agreed upon. Richmond’s head of football Dan Richardson also has been involved in the discussions with Hardwick’s management.


The Tigers’ administration has maintained faith in Hardwick and has already signalled that he would be recontracted beyond 2016, with the major question whether he would receive a one or two-year extension.

Hardwick’s position was secure after the Tigers did their end of 2015 review and the club administration and board have taken the view that they have been making progress, despite the disappointing loss to North Melbourne in the elimination final last September.

Hardwick has coached the Tigers to three consecutive finals appearances — the first Richmond coach to do so since Tom Hafey — but they have not won a final.

The two-year extension means Hardwick will be contracted to coach the Tigers into a ninth season, having been appointed coach before the 2010 season. In his time, the Tigers are seen to have made steady progress from a low base, though their inability to win a final and increased expectations have placed him under greater scrutiny over the past 18 months.

The decision to renew Hardwick for two years continues a pattern of senior coaches having their contracts extended. It follows Fremantle’s extending of Ross Lyon’s tenure for a further three years — stretching his contracted term until the end of 2020 — while the game’s most decorated and dominant coach, Hawthorn’s Alastair Clarkson, is about to be extended until the end of 2019.

Hardwick has a win-loss ratio marginally under 50 per cent (66-67 and two draws) in his six completed years, but had a 65 per cent winning ratio in two of the last three seasons, the Tigers having finished fifth in the home and away seasons of both 2013 and 2015 with 15 wins and eighth (12 wins) in 2014. He started his stint with nine consecutive losses in 2010.

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/damien-hardwick-contract-richmond-coach-set-to-have-current-deal-extended-to-2018/news-story/705f687415aa076d6887a2387dbb1b93

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #20 on: March 07, 2016, 09:39:20 PM »
Just wondering - what are the most seasons a VFL/AFL coach has coached the same club without winning a final, or before winning their first final?

Furthermore, what's the longest a VFL/AFL coach has coached the same club before winning their first final and then going on to eventually win a premiership with that same club?

Interested to see if there have been any precedents since 1897.
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #21 on: March 07, 2016, 10:06:26 PM »
Just wondering - what are the most seasons a VFL/AFL coach has coached the same club without winning a final, or before winning their first final?

Furthermore, what's the longest a VFL/AFL coach has coached the same club before winning their first final and then going on to eventually win a premiership with that same club? Interested to see if there are any precedents since 1897.
Since 1965, 15 coaches have winless finals records. Dimma is the only one with 3 finals losses without a win.

Robert Walls has the lowest finals win percentage (5 from 13 = 38.5%) of the premiership coaches since 1965. He won an EF in 1981 at Fitzroy before losing the next 4 finals in row. In 1983, the Roys went out in straight sets after finishing 3rd (equal 2nd on %). Walls then swapped with Parkin in 1986 and won a flag at Carlton in 1987.

Of course, Richmond sacked the only premiership coach since 1965 with a 100% finals winning record in TJ  :P.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/afl_coaches?status=&type=F&sort=p


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2003 EF - WC lost to Adel. @ Footy Park    57 - 113
2004 EF - WC lost to Syd. @ ANZ Stadium  34 - 75
2005 QF - WC def. Syd @ Subiaco              69 - 65

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #22 on: March 07, 2016, 10:24:13 PM »
Ok thanks, so no precedents of a coach taking 7 or more seasons to win their first final and then going on to win a flag with the same club in 120 seasons of VFL/AFL football then....
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #23 on: March 07, 2016, 10:28:48 PM »
#stability
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #24 on: March 07, 2016, 11:27:23 PM »
If Joe Russo was on the board, would he be for or against the extension you reckon? What about O'Shannassy/chadwick?

anyone know?

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2016, 01:46:15 PM »
Russo said he thought Hardwick was good (great?) coach .

Ok thanks, so no precedents of a coach taking 7 or more seasons to win their first final and then going on to win a flag with the same club in 120 seasons of VFL/AFL football then....

not that i advocate the extension by any stretch, but how many coaches have taken over such a basket case and got them to finals in 4 years? and there is a precedent of a coach taking 4 years of finals appearances to win a final then go on to win a premiership

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2016, 03:23:23 PM »
Hardwick extension means little: Kennelly

Source: SportsFan
Tuesday, March 08, 2016



A contract extension for Damien Hardwick is imminent, and Tadhg Kennelly thinks this is a sign of solidarity by Richmond - but they have to perform in the 2016 finals.

Richmond shouldn't hesitate in ripping up Damien Hardwick's new two-year contract extension, argues Tadhg Kennelly, should the coach fail to take his team to the second week of the finals.

Having first discussed a new offer late last season, the Tigers appear set to have Hardwick put pen to paper before round one.

Former Swans defender Kennelly says that while the contract is part show of faith and part stability, it will mean little if the results don't come.

"You'd think it would be (a good move) at the start of the year because they're trying to sell the message of 'it's secure, we're backing you in, you're the man for us to get us into the top four and get a premiership'," he told SportsFan's Will McCloy.

"Fact of the matter is they haven't won a final the last three years they've been in there. I actually thought last year if they made the top four, they were a chance of making the grand final.

"They looked like a team that was extremely dangerous and they'd beaten all the top four teams in the home and away season. They didn't do that, they finished outside the top four and lost the first final."

Kennelly expects Richmond to have little trouble making the finals again in 2016.

However, even a 10-year contract would be torn up if the Tigers fail to win their first final – elimination, qualifying or even semi, should they finish top four and lose in the first week – since 2001.

"If he loses another first final, if they don't make the top four, well you can guarantee if they gave him a 10-year contract right now, it's gone," he said.

"You can't, as a coach, go through three years in a row losing the first final, that's what you're really judged on. (If he loses again) I think it's scrap, scrap. I think it has to be."

http://www.sportsfan.com.au/hardwick-extension-means-little-kennelly/tabid/91/newsid/191597/default.aspx?cid=SF_LOWDOWN_AFL_article_hardwickextensionmeanslittlekennelly_080316

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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2016, 03:31:38 PM »
Russo said he thought Hardwick was good (great?) coach .

Ok thanks, so no precedents of a coach taking 7 or more seasons to win their first final and then going on to win a flag with the same club in 120 seasons of VFL/AFL football then....

not that i advocate the extension by any stretch, but how many coaches have taken over such a basket case and got them to finals in 4 years? and there is a precedent of a coach taking 4 years of finals appearances to win a final then go on to win a premiership



Dunno Al - no doubt Hardwick didn't start in ideal circumstances, but I reckon the whole "basket case" thing is a bit exaggerated and a crutch some people are still using 7 seasons later....mainly to do with all the "worst since Fitzroy" crap the media ran with in the first half of 2010 - we ended up winning 6 games nearly won a 7th from 10 goals down and didn't even finish last, so we weren't even the worst side in the comp. We were far more of a basket case when Wallace took over IMO (not that I rate that prick either)....but hell, Port were nearly insolvent when Hinkley got the job there....and look at all the stuff that happened to Footscray last off-season.......now these are far from perfect analogies I know and they both still had fairly good lists....but those first year coaches both overcame serious issues and were immediately successful, while we're using excuses from 2010 in 2016....
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2016, 03:37:44 PM »
Port almost folded ffs
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Re: Confirmed: Dimma re-signed for two years (RFC site)
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2016, 04:17:12 PM »
Port almost folded ffs

but they don't have grigg and they got rid of chapman