Try this on for size. off the top of my head Hinkley inherited; Boak, Hartlett, Cornes, Carlile, Gray, Schulz, Trengove, Broadbent ,Westhoff ,Jonas ,Wingard , Ebert
Now what do you think of hinkley inheriting these players. And all these blokes apart from wingard were there in 2011 so don't even try
Some of these Port players mentioned are A grade like our ones mentioned earlier (Boak, Hartlett, Gray and Wingard) but the others are solid citizens at best. Which we also had on our list when Hardwick took over (Richo, Tuck, Foley, Newman, Bowden) I'd argue that our list of A graders and these guys are better than the lilts you just put up.
So IMO Port were in much more trouble than we were when Hinkley took over then when Hardwick took over.
The fact Hardwick even played players like Nason tells me he had NFI when he took over. That dope wouldn't get a game at Balwyn.
I'm so sick of all the excuses. Dimma has had long enough and needs to put up or pizz off. Making finals is great but IMO not even close to a pass mark and not even close to him deserving another 2 years to the year he has in front of him.
I'd offer him a new contract in October 2016 if and when he delivered us a minimum of a top 4 spot and at least a finals win. Solid KPI's that are there for all to see.
NO MORE EXCUSES
Trevgove is a B&F winner, Ebert has been R/U and was vice captain. Broadbent has been a quality half back flanker, one that you'd be screaming out to replace Houli with. Carlile a good solid full back. Jonas a very important defender and Kane Cornes was perhaps the leagues best tagger. Schulz a quality forward, Westhoff a quality utility.
You really should give the game away if you think those players are worse than what Hardwick originally had to work with. All these players, bar a retired Cornes, are still their best players. And considering everyone wanks off to Port for some reason (even though we finished ahead of them with ease last season), I think they ignore this fact.
Richo and Bowden never played for Hardwick. And I cant believe you thought Richo was an average player, ditto Bowden tbh. Think it says something about the way you judge football (not properly)
Have a lovely day
I said those players were solid citizens which they are, nothing more. And you are kidding yourself if you think differently.
Trengrove a B&F winner, big deal, so is Daniel Jackson.
Elbert, runner up and vice captain, even less of a bigger deal. Solid player.
Broadbent is a decent flanker but I wouldn't call in an A grader, and that's what I said. Solid at best.
Carlisle the same, solid defender- not A grade.
Jonas, well I'm not sure much needs to be even said. Ok at best.
Corners was good but I'd struggle to call any tagger an A grade player.
Schulz and Westoff both solid, and I'm pretty sure that's what I said about them.
If you take your head out of your arse for just a minute you would see that my comments on the Port players is pretty spot on even if it doesn't help your arguement.
And there is no need to be such a wanker either when disagreeing with some.
Telling me I should give the game away. Pull your head in hero.