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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #120 on: April 11, 2016, 07:00:45 PM »
If that's all true HK, we need to find a way to get the best out of this lad.
Those qualities deserve serious game time at senior level
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #121 on: April 11, 2016, 07:16:49 PM »
Liam was crap. 40 knot gale blowing across the ground and he leads to the high side. Would have taken 6 kicks to get to him. No positional or situational awareness at all. And the coaches let him know.

I have an axe to grind here.

Liam McBean, has put on muscle and mass, won the VFL goal kicking twice, has he met KPI's set for him? Has he or any player in our system had KPI's set?I would think so. Personally I would be sick of the club and hope like hell to get traded. Why try your guts out for 3 years and never get a chance to play what he signed up for...AFL.
They will probably give him a game here or there, give him no time to assimilate, say he is no good and bye bye Bean.

If he is leading to the wrong places, kicking to wrong side of ground etc etc surely that would be our own fault for not instilling and enforcing these practices into a player who was a high draft pick and has been in our system for 3 years??

On top of this rant, does anyone know how many VFL games Dimma would have been to in his time at RFC?

I hear you, my comment is along the lines,
- of there was a strong wind blowing
- We're kicking into the wind and every kick is dropping 10 meters short.
- Liam leads to a position that would be a solid 2 kicks away.  His opponent went to where the kick was going to land and helped kill the ball and overload us at the contest.
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
That aint coaching.  That's just realization and doing the team thing.  Providing an option for guys getting slammed.  The body language of at least one senior coach was telling.
Having said that.  At a contest a while later, he looks laconic, I'm berating him under my breathe, then he spins, taps a ground ball to himself, handballs through traffic and we kick a goal.  He's 2 meters tall, and I sized him next to the two Ivan's, he's taller that Ivan snr and just shorter than Ivan junior and is better at ground ball work than half our mids.  So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.
And then he joins a ruck contest and taps well and to advantage.

amazing how he does so well in the Jim 'Frosty' Miller Medal every year isnt it ?
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #122 on: April 11, 2016, 07:23:36 PM »
I guess if you're not good enough to play seniors you have more chances to win trophies in the twos.

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #123 on: April 11, 2016, 07:26:15 PM »
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And then he joins a ruck contest and taps well and to advantage.

That alone makes him better than Vickery already....
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #124 on: April 11, 2016, 08:57:36 PM »

Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....

So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies


They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps  :snidegrin

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #125 on: April 11, 2016, 09:12:51 PM »

Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....

So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies


They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps  :snidegrin
I thought the weak ones were weeded out to the RFC! ;D
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #126 on: April 11, 2016, 09:19:11 PM »

Problem with juniors (TAC Cup) is they don't seem be taught any defensive parts to the game....

So many of them that come through haven't got a defensive bone in their collective bodies


They are very well trained & prepared just like AFL senior players. Some of the training facilities are of very high standard.
Most players will play in several positions over the 2 years with TAC. Many are in the system for 4 years coming through from the lower TAC group. U18's are treated like AFL senior players. They also drop back to their own clubs & play only seniors. There is no weak lads down there. The weak ones are weeded out prior to the season at training camps  :snidegrin
I thought the weak ones were weeded out to the RFC! ;D

 :snidegrin RFC let the best one go although he done his wing on Sarurday & will be out for some time  ;D The other good ones go to other clubs like Collingwood, Hawthorn, so we are left with the trash :snidegrin

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #127 on: April 12, 2016, 12:25:03 AM »
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.

Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #128 on: April 12, 2016, 12:20:50 PM »
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.

Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy

Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt 

Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals

Revolutionary, I know
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #131 on: April 12, 2016, 05:28:39 PM »
VFL Review - Round 1:

VIDEO: http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2016-04-12/vfl-review-round-1
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #132 on: April 12, 2016, 06:33:40 PM »
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.

Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy

Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt 

Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals

Revolutionary, I know

Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?

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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
« Reply #133 on: April 12, 2016, 06:39:03 PM »
- We needed Liam to provide an option 35 or so meters down the line where the ball was going to go.
So he has a unique skill set but it he needs to play tall at times and that does not appear natural for him and it hurt us at times on Sunday.

Exactly. It'll be good if he could take a contested mark or two but for now all he needs to do is at least hit a pack and continually bring the ball to ground. Too damn lazy

Instead of tryin to make the leading Vfl goal kicker winner into something he is not, why not just play him next to jack Riewoldt 

Then jack can be that option. McBean can kick goals

Revolutionary, I know

Ah, so you don't think when it's a players turn to go they have to go? I guess you cut Ellis some slack too because crashing into packs is something he's not so why bother?

not quite sure wtf you are on about - i think b ellis is a squib
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Re: VFL R1: Richmond vs Williamstown --- Sun. Apr 10 @ Burbank Oval
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The VFL Report: Round 1
Brenton Mann, richmondfc.com.au
12 April 2016 5:24 PM
 
 
Richmond’s VFL coach Craig McRae provides an exclusive summary of the AFL-listed players who featured in last Sunday’s Round 1 loss to Williamstown.

Adam Marcon
24 disposals, 16 contested possessions, eight clearances

Adam continued his good form at this level. He led the team in clearances with eight, just driving out of contests. He’s really important for us and he’s ready for AFL opportunity when it presents.

Andrew Moore
24 disposals, 15 tackles, 16 contested possessions, seven clearances

Andrew played his best game for the club with 24 disposals, 15 tackles and seven clearances and also the way he went about it. He played as that big-bodied, strong midfielder and was important to us winning clearances on the day. It was a really good performance from him.

Taylor Hunt
23 disposals, ten handball receives, 13 uncontested possessions

Taylor continues to show great leadership at this level. He had a lot of the football, playing wing mainly; his ten handball receives was a highlight. He tried to get our game up and going. I thought he was important on the day.

Jason Castagna
17 disposals, two goals, nine contested possessions, nine tackles

He played mainly forward and didn’t impact the game at all in the first quarter, and then from quarter-time onwards, he was one of the main contributors keeping us competitive. He kept us in the game with his 17 disposals, nine tackles and two goals, and he showed everyone what he’s capable of with the drive in his legs out of a stoppage and looks AFL-ready.

Steve Morris
15 disposals, five tackles, seven contested and seven uncontested possessions

He’s such a competitor, and everyone can see that when you come and watch him play, and he’s an important role model for our younger players with his attack on the ball. He played off half-back and many times gave us great drive from there.

Jake Batchelor
12 disposals, eight marks, nine uncontested possessions

Jake played his best game in a number of weeks across half-back, directing and you can continually see his leadership on the field. Led the team with eight marks across the game, in what was an important step forward for his footy this year.

Ivan Maric
11 disposals, 16 hit-outs, nine contested possessions, five clearances

Ivan played his first game for the season, he played in the ruck and also played forward so 50 per cent in each position and only played three-quarters of the game. He looked like he was moving well, and was really important in the end in winning clearances with his big body and leadership around the ground.

Oleg Markov
11 disposals, eight uncontested possession, five tackles

Oleg played on a wing and wasn’t as influential as what he’s been in recent times. He ran really hard and has great athletic ability, and in difficult windy conditions, made it difficult to get the ball to him on the open side of the ground, but when we did we benefited from that.

Nathan Broad
Ten disposals, eight uncontested possessions, three uncontested marks

Nathan played across half-back, he hasn’t shown what he’s capable of as yet, but there’s little signs each week that he’s getting better. We need him to run harder when we’ve got the ball in hand and get on the end of those chains and defend fiercely when he’s down back as well.

Ivan Soldo
20 hit-outs, one goal, ten disposals, four clearances

Ivan showed he’s improving every week, he kicked a goal and had 20 hit-outs, and played ruck only. He competed fiercely in the contest with seven contested possessions. He’s certainly got some upside about him.

Mabior Chol
Nine disposals, eight uncontested possessions, four marks

He’s floating in and out of games at the moment. He’s finding it hard to have consistency of effort for four quarters. When he plays to his strengths, we’re better for it and we’ll continually look for him to be able to do it for longer periods.

Todd Elton
Eight disposals, five contested possessions

Played as a key-back, he showed signs of getting back to his strengths in going for his marks, but he’s still learning the craft and we’re looking for improvement every week in what he’s doing.

Ben Griffiths
Five disposals, three tackles

Unfortunately he rolled his ankle early in the third quarter, but he had little impact up to that stage of the game. It was hard to judge his game due to injury.

Liam McBean
Two goals, five disposals, three contested possessions

He’s struggling a little bit with his form, we’re really asking him to get to more contests. He started the game on fire, with two goals against the breeze which really set us up for the day, but struggled to have an impact for the rest of the day.

http://m.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-04-12/the-vfl-report-round-1?camefrom=EMCL_1048323_40665727