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« on: November 26, 2005, 10:37:18 AM »
Cleve Hughes

Details:
Club: Norwood
DOB: 15 January 1987 Hgt: 193cm Wgt: 85kg
Position: Forward
Natural Foot: Right

Honours:
2005 All Australian U18 - CHF
AFL Draft Camp 2005

Statistics:
2005 U18 National Championships: 3 games, 5 goals, average 10.7 PPG, average 7.3 MPG

Background:
Hughes made footy his primary focus this year after being involved in state junior cricket programs in the past (state U17 cricketer for SA in 2004) and really stepped up during this years U18 championships as one of the quality forwards on offer in this draft. With vice-like hands that cleanly one grab the ball virtually every time and a good work ethic that sees him present well from the forward line up the ground, it is little wonder clubs have shown such a keen interest. His average of 7.3 marks a game in the championships was terrific given the quality of opponents he had.

Strengths:
- Strong, one grab mark on the lead at pace as he presents well up the ground
- Good kick at goal, penetrating kick

Weaknesses:
- Still a bit of a wiry build/development time needed to improve physicality and body on body marking

Footydraft.com comment:
From all reports was on the radar well before the under 18 championships and he did nothing during that week to hurt his chances. Expected to be selected between six and fifteen.
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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2005, 10:44:38 AM »
Someone said to me a while ago that is Kirkby MKII, which worries me a bit!

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2005, 11:25:37 AM »
Someone said to me a while ago that is Kirkby MKII, which worries me a bit!

You would hope not  :-\. Hopefully we have picked him up because we think he's good rather than as a poor-man's tall and a make-up pick for not taking Clark at #8. I guess we did the same last year with Patto at #16 so I would be happy if we've just done the same there. Hughes is a bit bigger isn't he? Weaver had him at #6!

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2005, 11:28:18 AM »
IIRC Hughes is a 193cm stick, definetly not bigger then Pattison!

His very top age, is about 13 months older then Oakley-Nicholls!  :o

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2005, 11:31:36 AM »
Hughes played well in the carnival....he may be top age...but he showed he can play. At 24 there werent to many other better options I would have thought.

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2005, 11:35:55 AM »
They're wasn't, im just saying!

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2005, 11:53:28 AM »
IIRC Hughes is a 193cm stick, definetly not bigger then Pattison!

Sorry, I meant bigger than Kirkby. Patto is definitely bigger than Hughes.
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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2005, 01:32:20 PM »
I think he is bigger then Kirkby this time last year!

Hearing a lot of different things about this kid, one person says his an "inside" forward, another one says his as soft as butter!  :-\

Only time will tell!

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes (photo)
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2005, 03:11:00 PM »
Pics up on the RFC site:

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2005, 05:37:19 PM »
From the club email:

Cleve Hughes - Draft pick No. 24
Recruited from: Norwood
Born: 15/01/87
Height: 191.9cm
Weight: 84.4kg

The teenager from SA club Norwood focused primarily on football this year after previously being involved in State junior cricket programs. Was a key player for SA at the National under-18 carnival, and was rewarded for his efforts with selection at centre half-forward in the All-Australian side. Also played good football for Norwood reserves throughout the '05 season. Is quick on the lead, contests well, takes strong, one-grab marks, and finishes off his work with excellent kicking skills.

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Cleve Hughes - Colin Wisbey profile
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2005, 06:49:57 PM »
Cleve Hughes (Norwood)
 
 192/84 top-age right foot (dual-sided) CHF/FF.
 
 *STYLE LIKE: early Tredrea
 
 *MY RANKING (not meant to reflect appropriate draft pick to use): 13
 
 *PROBABILITY OF AFL CAREER: Likely. Ready year 2.
 
 - Within an AFL team list, could prove capable of SUSTAINING a ranking of 5-15.
 
 *HURT FACTORS (Offensive/Defensive/Negative): MH / LM / L
 
 *TRADEMARK:
 
 - Strong high mark on a very well-timed, purposeful lead up the corridor. Then long straight shot for goal.
 
 *SUMMARY ASSESSMENT, RECOMMENDATION:
 
 - Fast-lead marking key forward. Very top-age but intensity, an historic issue with him, is very much on the up ... and his potency with it.
 
 Not the most consistent type around (is a bit of a confidence player) but on his day (and that's now often) he
 
 Is agile
 Is clean at all levell
 Times his leads extremely well and straightens his team up
 Shows good judgement overhead
 Has nice kicking style and is usually an accurate kick.
 Generally makes the right decisions.
 
 Improvement trend line is very encouraging, including in intensity. When his confidence is up, he leads with purpose and up the corridor whenever possible.
 
 - Even though he is 11 months older than Dowler, I have him a bit ahead of Dowler in my rankings:-
 
 1. Although Dowler is 3cm taller, I am confident (unconfirmed) he has a few cm reach disadvantage (compared to the average player of his height) that at least cancels out the height difference.
 
 2. Dowler can use his non-preferred foot to some extent in an emergency. Hughes doesn't often need to but is genuinely dual-sided.
 
 3. Hughes is better below-the-knee ability IMHO and, although others would disagree, has better agility, especially recovery agility and ability to quickly make multiple leads for the same play
 
 4. I suspect that, although a natural leading forward, he may have greater potential versatility, even though Dowler has played both ends.
 
 5. Both are slim but Hughes is proven against men.
 
 (Dowler's injury did not factor into my ranking of Dowler). I just think Hughes has more tricks.
 
 - I could imagine Hughes might be the top name on the Christmas card list of some coaches or some team-mates and that his intensity and efforts until recently have sometimes looked dodgy, even seemingly sulky or a bit spoilt brattish. And he is very top-age. However he has recently given every indication on-field that things have just clicked with him. I thought he was useful some earlier games this year, good in the U18 Champs, and very good and sensational (respectively) in 2 SANFL Reserves games later in the year.
 
 I think he looks as good a leading forward prospect as we've seen for some time. Because he is slim build and has to prove he can maintain his current intensity and ethic, I can't call him "definite" AFL long -termer but I do think it likely. I would take him around my ranking number of 13 and even a few picks earlier, depending on need.
 
 *DISPOSAL:
 
 - Very accurate set kick. Generally accurate non-set kick. Good at kicking a weighted pass to a lead.
 
 - Terrific set kick for goal, regardless of angle. Also good on the run, even outside 40m
 
 - Consistently handy depth. Comfortable range seems to be about 55m.
 
 - Excellent kicking style for set kicks.
 
 - Genuinely dual-sided.
 
 - Good by hand - accurate, good power, quick hands, good hurt factor.
 
 *DECISION-MAKING, SMARTS:
 
 - Generally good decision-maker. (Makes the occasion mistake eg trying to bump instead of laying a tackle, but he is usually solid). Good vision. Often thinks quickly.
 
 - Regularly displays good poise under pressure.
 
 - As a leading forward, regularly tries to lead up the corridor. This not only straightens his team up but means that a high percentage of Hughes' set shots for goal are from a comfortable angle. Excellent judgement of when, where and how to lead, Great timing. His leads demand to be honoured.
 
 - I'd like to see him feed off a bit more often.
 
 *HANDS:
 
 - Very clean hands - all levels.
 
 - Extra clean off the carpet on the run, even under medium-great pressure.
 
 *OVERHEAD MARKING:
 
 - Routinely one-grab overhead, even under great pressure.
 
 - Excellent judgement.
 
 - Usually attacks a contested mark situation.
 
 - Can take a big grab from behind but, pleasingly, prefers to play from the front (not only, but especially, from a lead)
 
 - Holds his ground.
 
 *ATHLETICISM:
 
 - Big leap. (He is also handy as 3rd man up at stop plays).
 
 - Very good pace overall - better than his handy DC times. Very good acceleration and speed on a lead, even against a smaller quick opponent like Josh Eddy.
 
 - Very good agility. Excellent recovery agility for his size.
 
 - Very good reflexes.
 
 - Nice height but only 84kg. Is athletic enough that he doesn't need to become a 100+kg build. I can see no reason why he'll not manage to hit the mid-high 90s but it will take time.
 
 *INTENSITY, ETHIC:
 
 - Seems to be a bit of a confidence player but has significantly lifted his work-rate and hardness at the ball throughout the past year to the extent that it is now (as in latter part of this season) usually at least OK, sometimes very commendable. I
 
 Due to the inconsistency of intensity/ethic prior to recently, its a bit hard to say he is now "good"/"very good" etc. What I can say is that, although I can't recall a smother or a huge number of chases, he has shown recently (even if not routinely), that he is prepared to show desperation, attack the ground ball, get the hard ball, attack the spoil, put in 2nd efforts, etc. He still has to work a bit on his attack on the man but he is usually an effective tackler.
 
 *CONSISTENCY:
 
 - Improving. I had concerns a while back but I ma fairly comfortable now.
 
 *AFL VERSATILITY:
 
 - Options will depend on how he goes with bulking up. Assuming no problems there (not that its really a given):-
 
 - Natural FF or CHF.
 
 - Could certainly play FP, or even HFF on the right opponent.
 
 - If he gets his strength right and, more importantly, his intensity and ethic, he would have the skill set to play CHB, FB, 3rd tall defender, or perhaps even HBF on the right opponent. That list is a long way off being realistic at this stage but all are potential possibilities. You would waste his goal-kicking value and his ability on a lead though.
 
 Bottom line is that I see him as a very appealing forward.
 
 *CSI (COMPARATIVE SCOPE for IMPROVEMENT):
 
 - No special factors.
 
 *QUERY:
 
 - Intensity / maintenance.
 
 *SOME STATS:
 
 - Stats summary '05 U18 Champs:
 Averaged 11 disposals and 7.3 marks in his 3 games. (Best TD 13).
 Kicks per 20 disp: 18.
 Kicks long vs short: 15-8 (7 long per 10 kicks).
 Ineffective kicks: 5/28 (1.8 per 10 kicks), incl 1 clangers (0.4 per 10 kicks).
 Ineffective handballs: 0/4 (0.0 per 10 handballs), incl 0 clangers (0.0 per 10 handballs).
 Ineffective disposals: 5/32 (3.1 per 20 disp), incl 1 clangers (0.6 per 20 disp).
 HandBall Receives: 3/32 (2 per 20 disp).
 Hardball gets: 1/32 (1 per 20 disp).
 S.P. clearances: 0/32 (0 per 20 disp), incl 0 BU (0 per 20 disp), incl 0 CBC (0 per 20 disp).
 Tackles: 2 (Avg 0.7 per game).
 Marks: 22 (14 per 20 disp), incl 4 contested (1.8 per 10 marks).
 
 *OTHER STUFF:
 
 - All Aust TY.
 - Promising SANFL Res form '05.

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2005, 09:41:56 AM »
I’m happy that we got Hughes with 24, talented tall forward. IMO the only reason why he wasn’t taken earlier is because he hasn’t had the type of exposure (therefore a lower public rating) that some other key position players have received.

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2005, 07:01:09 PM »
Cleve Hughes (Norwood) - sanfl goals and bests (no stats sadly)

1.  U19  (4 goals)
2.  U19  (1 goal)
3.  Res           (4th best)
4.  N/A
5.  bye
6.  U19  (1 goal)
7.  N/A
8.  Res  (1 goal)
9.  N/A
10. N/A
11. Res           (1st best)
12. Res           (2nd best)
13. bye
14. U18 champs
15. U18 champs
16. Res  (2 goals)
17. Res  (1 goal,  4th best)
18. Res           (2nd best)
19. Res  (3 goals, 2nd best)
20. Res  (2 goals)
21. Res  (5 goals, 2nd best)
22. Res  (3 goals, 5th best)
23. Res  (1 goal)

N/A - not available

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Re: Pick 24. Cleve Hughes
« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2005, 08:56:58 PM »
Encouraging to see he finished off the season strongly!

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Cleve Hughes a clever worker (RFC site)
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2006, 03:01:17 PM »
Cleve a clever worker
11:56:04 AM Thu 26 January, 2006
Matt Burgan
Sportal for afl.com.au

Everything Cleve Hughes had ever heard about undertaking an AFL pre-season is proving to be correct.

Grueling sessions, a tired body and backing it up the following day are all par for the course for the new Richmond recruit, but he is relishing the challenge as he lines up for his first AFL season.

"It's definitely been as hard as I thought it would be," Hughes, who was drafted by Richmond from Norwood with its second selection - No.24 overall - in last November's NAB AFL Draft, told afl.com.au,

"I knew some of the other players that I met up with last year that had just started their first season and they told me it was pretty hard, but your body gets the rewards from it at the end of it.

"It's definitely been pretty hard on the body, but I'm settling in pretty well now and I know what I've got to do."

The daily workload and having to cope with several sessions is something the tall forward is finding particularly taxing.

"You have one in the morning and then you've got to get your body up for another one in the middle (of the day) and then you've got to get your body up for another one in the afternoon," Hughes said.

"There is a lot of preparation for each session. Normally I get through the session but then the body is pretty buggered at the end of it and then you've got one the next day, so you have to take care of the body for the next one and it's all about getting it right for the next session - that's probably the hard thing."

Hughes, who gained All-Australian honours after shining with South Australia in last year's NAB AFL under 18 championships, said crossing the border to Victoria had been a relatively smooth transition.

"It hasn't been heaps tricky because I'm with a really good host family at the moment and they've got everything right for me. Now I've got a car and it's pretty easy to get around, so it hasn't been too hard," Hughes said.

"I'm probably missing the family a little bit at the moment, but they came over for a couple of days (recently), so that was good, but just having a good host family there has been good for me.

"I'm looking to meet a few more people around the place and that'll stop me from getting too bored and lonely."

Leading up to last year's draft, Hughes said he wasn't fully aware of Richmond's interest in him.

"I didn't really know. I had a little chat with them at the draft (camp), but apart from that I hadn't really heard from them," Hughes said.

"They didn't really think that I was on their radar, because they thought they wouldn't get me with their eighth pick and they thought I would fall between their eighth and 24th pick."

As for 2006, Hughes is looking to play solidly with the Coburg Tigers in the VFL, although he added that a berth in the upcoming NAB Cup was not out of the question.

"The coaches have basically said that it doesn't really matter about age or where you've been taken in the draft, whoever is playing the best footy will play (in the NAB Cup)," Hughes said.

"I guess they're going to play a few new young guys for that, but we've got a couple of little trials coming up to that and if I can play alright on some of the older guys, that'll probably give me a foot forward.

"The body is coming alright, but playing in my position, it'd be a little bit hard for me to play in the key position at the moment.

"They've been playing me on the half-forward flank a little bit and I've been going alright in the trials we've played and a little bit at full-forward, but nothing right in the key spots right now."

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