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Offline bluey_21

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Our next skipper
« on: December 22, 2005, 06:55:30 PM »
Current speculation and rumours have either Deledio or Coughlan penciled in as our next skipper. Also, I see Patto (from some of his TAC Cup games) and Tambling (from some of his U18 carnival games) as potential candidates for the captaincy as they exhibit some excellent leadership skills.

We could follow Essendon's tranistion style of skippers and have Sugar step down as captain in 3 to 4 years, and then pass it on to Cogs (he will be about 26 at this stage) who will have lead for another 4 years or so. And once Cogs reaches 30 he can pass the captaincy on to Lids who will be about 26 himself by that time. Or we could follow Sydney's current system (but have two co-captains in Lids and Cogs rather than 3).

IMO either path we follow is fine as both Lids and Cogs would be excellent skippers.

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2005, 04:06:38 PM »
I don't think Wallace is a fan of multiple captains but I could be wrong.

Lids is only 18 and into his second year next year so unless Sugar captains for the next 4 years I think someone else will be before him. Even Hird played for around 5 years before he got the job at the Bombers.

Cogs appeared the obvious choice to pass the baton onto the next generation but after missing a year of footy through his groin problems he should be allowed to get a few seasons in a row under his belt first. You need your captain out on the field.

I wouldn't be surprised if someone less-obvious got it after Sugar like Newman or Tuck. Someone who consistently does their job well week-in. That would really stick it up the Hawks if Tucky became captain of the Tiges  ;D.   
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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2005, 03:53:59 PM »
If Bowden has another consistent year next year he could conceivably get it. I'd be happy for Johnson to have it for the next two or three years though. By that stage we should know about the Deledios, Tamblings, Myers and where they fit into the leadership picture.

Cogs doesn't seem a leader to me. He is strong, hard at it, courageous, and gives a good example to the others about how to attack the footy, but he isn't vociferous enough and doesn't have a commanding presence. Also he doesn't seem to be the most tactically astute. Still, we could do worse.


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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2005, 08:55:41 PM »
If Bowden has another consistent year next year he could conceivably get it. I'd be happy for Johnson to have it for the next two or three years though. By that stage we should know about the Deledios, Tamblings, Myers and where they fit into the leadership picture.

Cogs doesn't seem a leader to me. He is strong, hard at it, courageous, and gives a good example to the others about how to attack the footy, but he isn't vociferous enough and doesn't have a commanding presence. Also he doesn't seem to be the most tactically astute. Still, we could do worse.


if Chris Newman keeps on improving he has a very good chance to be the next captain

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2005, 08:59:27 PM »
Johnson should be captain for 2006!

Bowden IMO is next in line amongst the senior group, while Brown will be totally focused on getting back to 100% this year and probably won't be heavily involved in the teams leadership this season!

Don't know where Richo sits though!

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2005, 09:08:37 PM »

Don't know where Richo sits though!
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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2005, 08:07:05 PM »
if Chris Newman keeps on improving he has a very good chance to be the next captain

although he wouldn't be my choice - I think you maybe onto something Darrell :thumbsup

The coaches seem to love him and talk about him as a leader and future captain
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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2005, 08:18:36 PM »
Johnson should be captain for 2006!

Bowden IMO is next in line amongst the senior group, while Brown will be totally focused on getting back to 100% this year and probably won't be heavily involved in the teams leadership this season!

Don't know where Richo sits though!

Bowden & Brown are in the same age bracket to Johnson (27ish). Can't see either of them getting it. Would seem silly to pass the captaicy 'sideways' if you like. Richo was a has been a great player the but the boat has passed for him to have the top job.

Whilst I've heard Richo talking up Deledio as a future leader the natural progession seems:  Johnson --> Cogs --> Deledio. That of course seems along way and is just speculation. Hopfully Johnson who I rate as a good leader has it for another 2-4 years. Cogs I think is the the next inline to be leader. He is in thre right age bracket (24 or so) and has the abilty and displays some good leadership skills. I reckon he seems the sort of player that will get better if he was asked to captian.

If a Newman or Tuck could take there game to the next level over the next couple years they would be in contention.

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2005, 08:50:11 PM »
I doubt Tuck is captain material, i've just got the feeling that his not a natural leader, that and his media skills might need some touching up/censoring (for people who watched the Brisbane game, you know what i mean!  ;))

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #9 on: December 31, 2005, 12:44:32 PM »
I doubt Tuck is captain material, i've just got the feeling that his not a natural leader, that and his media skills might need some touching up/censoring (for people who watched the Brisbane game, you know what i mean!  ;))

Yeah! Tuck appears to be one of those guys who lets his footy do his talking, he is one of those guys who are a key to success but aren't usually in the media like Newman

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #10 on: December 31, 2005, 02:03:54 PM »
disagree here guys, there are multitudes of captains from all codes who lead from the front but are 'silent' media types, off the top of my head.... mal meninga(rugby league), ivan lendl(davis cup campaigns), ian murray(americas cup) im sure there are many others including our current captain jonno and tucky's own father, michael, so to me its not necessary to be a good media person to be a great captain. most often than not its your inspiring deeds on the field that make you a great captain for your team, not the medias portrayal of you.

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2005, 02:19:13 PM »
disagree here guys, there are multitudes of captains from all codes who lead from the front but are 'silent' media types, off the top of my head.... mal meninga(rugby league), ivan lendl(davis cup campaigns), ian murray(americas cup) im sure there are many others including our current captain jonno and tucky's own father, michael, so to me its not necessary to be a good media person to be a great captain. most often than not its your inspiring deeds on the field that make you a great captain for your team, not the medias portrayal of you.

True, but i haven't heard anybody talk about Tucky's leadership skills whereas for blokes like Lids, Cogs and Patto they get wraps from the media about the leadership skills

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2005, 05:41:46 PM »
its plainly obvious that cogs and lids are right up there in the running for future captains but that automatically discard everyone else?

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #13 on: January 02, 2006, 10:04:12 PM »
Jim Boogy should be picked at the next draft and immediately assume leadership responsibilities- absolute champion young Jim. Shows outstanding commitment and leadership.

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Re: Our next skipper
« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2006, 10:23:05 AM »
Jim Boogy

rexy will have a ball on the mic if this kid gets ground time  ;D