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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2016, 11:06:27 PM »
So, we have failed to Instill a culture. Post Gr.

Once he went , it became footy nepotism.

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2016, 11:09:08 PM »
Richmond's season went bad this year due to injury & bad management of them. That is the main reason for the failure this season. Can't change nothing now so move forward. Got nothing to do with culture or the past rubbish. Clubs don't function on the past.

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2016, 11:18:17 PM »
Richmond's season went bad this year due to injury & bad management of them. That is the main reason for the failure this season. Can't change nothing now so move forward. Got nothing to do with culture or the past rubbish. Clubs don't function on the past.

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2016, 12:15:11 AM »
Richmond's season went bad this year due to injury & bad management of them. That is the main reason for the failure this season. Can't change nothing now so move forward. Got nothing to do with culture or the past rubbish. Clubs don't function on the past.

Disagree

this is one thing that poos me about this club.

All we go on about is how we failed in the past and need to improve, and we focus so much on that and let it ruin our confidence come the start of the season...  All you here is about losing three elims, they come out and play like poo this year, not improving cos all they were doing was moping about how we lost three elims in a row.

they need to move on from the past, just learn from it, but focus on the year ahead and quit bloody bringing the past up lol


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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2016, 12:16:21 AM »
I'm taking the Dan Richardson way of thinking and I blame the supporters (so members only).

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2016, 01:07:37 AM »
Well picking poo coaches is by far the biggest reason, then you have the nuff nuffs who picked these
3rd rate coaches followed close behind by our list managers and recruiters.


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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2016, 06:00:30 AM »
So, we have failed to Instill a culture. Post Gr.

Once he went , it became footy nepotism.

Always the imitator, Never the innovator
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TIGERITIS is the disease that has ruined this club.

Get rid of this disease of mediocrity and raise the bar to excellence.
Don't accept punces that can't do their job.
Simple answer.

Culture.
This!

It seems the Club has only been able to deal with situations in a binary way. It's either all good, so don't change anything in a major way (top up instead) OR it's all bad, so rip the joint apart. There's no in between. There's no continual focus to uphold elite standards to prevent these extremes.

The past 5 seasons are a perfect example. Many of the issues that were totally exposed this year, were evident in the preceding seasons. However, because we said we were either an up and coming side (2012) or later on winning and making finals (2013-15), these issues were seen as minor and something that could be dismissed as they would eventually fix themselves the following year with an experienced top up or few  :P.

The mental frailties in this current team were first displayed in 2012 with the chokes such as against the Suns ("worst 40 secs of football ever") and then against Carlton in all three 2013 meetings. Nothing was changed!

The dumb and ordinary decisions on and off field have existed for a long time irrespective of those in charge and irrespective of the season we are having on-field. Elite clubs set their own standards and continually try to raise them by critiquing and pushing themselves further even when winning. However, our culture is to only act when the proverbial hits the fan on-field and then set fire to the place off-field. A sign of a lazy, fragile club with a poor culture. That weak culture off-field has reflected itself on-field for the past 30-something years  :(

Excellent post MT.  :clapping

Every time a new regime starts they seem to say all the right things.
Dumma Halfstep told us he had the "blueprint to success".
He told us that any player that wasn't able to win his own ball wouldn't be playing in a Richmond jumper.
He told us we were going to be ruthless and tough.  :rollin

We have been an egg team for way too long. It's the single most frustrating thing I just can't stand seeing soft sissy pansy mummies boys crying over a sore pinky or not willing to put the body on the line for the club.
But this club continues to recruit, breed, develop and play limp wristed pansies every year.

I would've sacked the whole footy department and playing group after the 2013 EF debacle.

Someone needs to cut the crap, make a stand and demand nothing more than excellence and if you can't hack the heat then tell 'em to eff off!
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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2016, 06:52:50 AM »
 "The question that sticks out is - Why only now make major changes? Why not after 2013, 14 and 15 when we were also shown up for being far far short of the mark?" - This is a very good point. Fear reigns supreme at the club. Caution and stability rather than calculated risks is the guiding principle. We are a reactive rather than proactive club. The funding of the football department is a classic example of this. It always appears that the club has to be in crisis for anything to be done. The preference for the short term fix over long term planning has hurt this club. For the club to be successful the culture of the clubs needs to change. The new culture needs to be adopted by all in the club and influence how decisions are made at the club. The culture to be adopted by the club needs to be spelt out clearly.

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2016, 07:25:05 AM »
Everyone talks about culture, not reacting quickly enough and effectively it sounds like we are being run like a glorified suburban football club.
My question is why is that STILL happening at Richmond?
After the Wallace era, how on earth could this still be happening?
It feels we made a good start in 2010-2012, then the trade off happened AGAIN.
Why?
This then gets to the essence of our poo
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2016, 07:38:47 AM »
On top of all these points you only have to look at how RFC  players conduct themselves on the ground compared to
Other teams eg Bulldogs.
Looking at that you then say why, so cause vs effect.
When the long awaited Club analysis is revealed then all will become clear :shh??

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2016, 08:22:32 AM »
I thought MTs post was excellent. 

Id add my own point in brief.

Why are we still poo? The wrong people in the place. The right people have the DRIVE, ability and balls to make the right (and often tough) decisions, with one focus - making the club better.
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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2016, 08:26:43 AM »
We need people that will focus on footy

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2016, 08:43:07 AM »
Everyone talks about culture, not reacting quickly enough and effectively it sounds like we are being run like a glorified suburban football club.
My question is why is that STILL happening at Richmond?
After the Wallace era, how on earth could this still be happening?
It feels we made a good start in 2010-2012, then the trade off happened AGAIN.
Why?
This then gets to the essence of our poo

The players recruiters coaches are bad

But To that to pretend the culture is not soft dumb weak is pretty tough
Then he grabbed two chopsticks and stuck them in his mouth , pretending to be a walrus

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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2016, 09:27:30 AM »
Everyone talks about culture, not reacting quickly enough and effectively it sounds like we are being run like a glorified suburban football club.
My question is why is that STILL happening at Richmond?
After the Wallace era, how on earth could this still be happening?
It feels we made a good start in 2010-2012, then the trade off happened AGAIN.
Why?
This then gets to the essence of our poo
Tigeritis-the delusion that everything is always great & everyone's doing a good job for just being you.
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Re: Philosophical question:- Why are we perpetually poo?
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2016, 09:46:56 AM »
It's an aboriginal curse!