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Offline one-eyed

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Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« on: October 30, 2016, 07:07:22 AM »
CHAMPION DATA 2017 LIST ANALYSIS

CLUB           ELITE  ABOVE AVERAGE  TOTAL

W. Bulldogs     6        13           19
GWS Giants     6        11           17
West Coast     6         8           14
Adelaide          4        10           14
Sydney           6         7           13
St Kilda           1        11           12
Collingwood     2        10           12
Port Adelaide   3         7           10
Melbourne       2         8           10
Hawthorn        5         5           10
Geelong          5         4            9
Fremantle       3         6            9
Richmond        3         6            9
Gold Coast      3         5            8
North Melb.     1         6            7
Essendon        0         7            7
Carlton            2         3            5
Brisbane          0         3            3

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/champion-data-rates-western-bulldogs-list-as-best-in-the-afl-brisbane-lions-rated-worst/news-story/c6115c8844bbead594c93703ade7a068
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2016, 08:57:04 AM »
Hmmm

3 elite?

Martin, Rance, Reiwoldt  :huh

Or does the 3 include Cotchin?

I'm blocked from the article because ofthe paywall

Will be picking up the hardcopy HUN shortly, hopefully the atricle is actually in the paper

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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2016, 10:18:17 AM »
save your $$$ if you want to see the names, we barely get a mention in the article itself
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2016, 10:32:31 AM »
Quote from: WilliamPowell on October 30, 2016, 08:57:04 AM
I'm blocked from the article because ofthe paywall
What browser do you use Willy?
I use Google Chrome browser which has a HS paywall bypass extension,works a treat!
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2016, 12:34:12 PM »
Hmm i count 3 elite players 2 very good players and the rest a mish mash of average below average and juniors.
We could move on half the list and not lose a great deal.
We all know the lack of B and C graders is what kills us.
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2016, 01:37:06 PM »
I wonder if Rance is in that 3
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2016, 02:41:46 PM »
Rance is all three...like the holy trinity.... :shh
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2016, 03:45:58 PM »
Last time these came out that l remember Edwards was one of our elite.

If they are counting players as it stands now then Caddy was rated by them as elite for his hff role at Geelong.
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2016, 04:19:25 PM »
According to a few of his fans on here Hampson will be in the 6 above average
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2016, 04:24:47 PM »
Quote from: Chuck17 on October 30, 2016, 04:19:25 PM
According to a few of his fans on here Hampson will be in the 6 above average
Elite! :lol
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2016, 10:26:32 PM »
Quote from: Gracie on October 30, 2016, 03:45:58 PM
Last time these came out that l remember Edwards was one of our elite.

If they are counting players as it stands now then Caddy was rated by them as elite for his hff role at Geelong.
You mean the bloke who never ever puts his body on the line. Sheesh poor old Brandon Ellis cops it from all quarters and rightly so but this bloke continually escapes criticism.
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2016, 10:39:19 PM »
It wouldn't surprise me if jack was only above average. He was being played out of position all year up the ground and his stats would reflect that. Cotch hasn't been great for a while,  captaincy does not suit him and we need a hard body to block for him. Myles doesn't cut it there.
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2016, 06:53:42 AM »
Article says that with Deledio going to GWS, they now have another elite player

So in 2016 we had 4  ;D
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2016, 03:29:26 PM »
Quote from: tdy on October 30, 2016, 10:39:19 PM
It wouldn't surprise me if jack was only above average. He was being played out of position all year up the ground and his stats would reflect that. Cotch hasn't been great for a while,  captaincy does not suit him and we need a hard body to block for him. Myles doesn't cut it there.

Barlow. :shh
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Re: Richmond has 3 elite & 6 above average players: Champion Data (H-Sun)
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2016, 01:19:05 PM »
Last year, Champion Data had:

4 Elite: Jack, Rance, Lids & Titch.

8 Above Avg (included Cotch, Dusty, Ivan, Miles).

So no surprise we fell away badly when have your stars/reliable players have shocking seasons or are injured.


Going on the above, Lids (GWS) & Titch (shocker) fall out of the elite category with Dusty going up into it.

3 Elite: Jack, Rance, Dusty.

The above average category isn't obvious though. Cotch would still be in there statistically. Hard to think of anyone else deserving  :help.
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