Author Topic: Richmond board battle flares again with businessman Peter Casey to challenge  (Read 14426 times)

Offline Raoul Duke

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Nice post RT.
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The possibility of physical and mental collapse is now very real. No sympathy for the Devil, keep that in mind. Buy the ticket, take the ride.

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This from the AFL is amazing in the amount of information it reveals.

While Dunne, a 1980 premiership player, only filled the casual position vacated by John Mathies in September, his spot needs to be put up for general election.
A little misleading. Dunne has to face election since the Matthies term was ending. http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2016-08-18/emmett-dunne-to-join-richmond-board

Ryan, meanwhile, has completed her first three-year term and will re-stand after joining the board in October 2013.
It should be noted that Ryan was APPOINTED to replace March in October 2013. She stood for election in December as his term ended then. I don't know if she was elected unopposed. Someone may be able to provide that info. It is noted that March signalled his end-of-year resignation in February of that year. http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tigers-to-march-on-without-top-man-20130219-2epme.   html http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2013-10-07/kerry-ryan-joins-richmond-board

President Peggy O'Neal was to face re-election this year but has been locked into a fresh three-year term as the club's 'appointed director'. 
This is her second consecutive APPOINTED term. She was APPOINTED in 2013 and ELECTED to the presidency by the other board members in October 2013.

Under a 2011 change to the Tigers' constitution, the board can nominate an 'appointed director', who is effectively shielded from standing for a member election. 
The APPOINTED director serves out the remainder of the term of the director they replace. This is what is strange about these APPOINTED directors. So many of them occur in late September (Dunne) or October (Ryan, Speed, Walsh) before their election in November. It makes one wonder how onerous the job is when directors who have served for over ten years can't stand it any more and leave months before the AGM. Thus avoiding the board calling for nominations for vacant seats.

Lawyer Simon Wallace, who released an extensive 21-page prospectus of his views in August, is also expected to confirm his nomination ahead of Monday’s 6pm deadline.   
And we still await information from him about the removal of his "extensive 21-page prospectus" at the request of the club.

He has started a number of social media channels and is preparing to launch his campaign as a voice of the club's disillusioned members. 
It should be noted that Casey, like Wallace before him, is in breach of the newly amended Election By-Laws.
3.1 Election material only distributed AFTER the nominations period has closed.
3.2 "must not use the Club logo, name, promotional material, insignia..."
Section 3.4 contradicts 3.1 as it says "must not PRIOR to the date that nominations OPEN (or any other date specified by the Returning Officer) distribute....."
http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Club%20Promos/Richmond%20By%20Laws%202015.pdf
I told you it was comedy time.   


Casey has already met with the club's nominations committee, which is made up of O'Neal, director Rob Dalton, marketing professional Ben Crowe and Ryan.
And again (or still) we have a Nominations Committee which includes members who are standing for election against him and maybe the chair in Ryan. This is against the "charter " that the club released on their website on 4 November under the "club" tab. http://s.afl.com.au/staticfile/AFL%20Tenant/Richmond/Club%20Promos/Nominations%20Committee%20Charter%202016.pdf

Richmond has held just two elections in the past seven years, with directors serving long terms and standing for re-election unopposed.
Now I know that Russo stood for election last year but when was the other and who stood against Ryan in 2013 or was she elected unopposed.

The club has pointed to its stability at board level in recent times as a positive, but now has only one director – Rex Chadwick – whose initial appointment came via an election.
Note that Chadwick beat out Anthony Mithen in an election in 2009 to join the board.

Earlier this month the club's governance committee recommended that term limits for directors be introduced to the constitution.

Members will vote to amend the constitution at the annual general meeting on December 14.
I wouldn't be surprised if within the proposed changes is a removal of the limit of APPOINTED directors to two consecutive terms


Following Taz'z very useful post
GM: this change will enable the board to identify people with the expertise, and skill set, to significantly enhance the business of the Richmond Football Club.
it should also be noted that since this came into place in 2011, there have been NO directors bought in from outside.
The APPOINTED directors are/were:
2012 O'Shannasy
2103 O'Neal
2014 Free
2015 Dalton
2016 O'Neal again
These APPOINTED directors have never been publicly acknowledged by the club. I only worked them out by cross referencing board membership against election notices.

A possible reason why NO outside directors have been APPOINTED may be that organising of resignations a month or so before elections allows the Appointed one to stand as an incumbent and in the past this has often seen them elected unopposed.

Edit: I've added a lot of the links so people can look at the source material if they wish.
You should be posting this stuff onother sites as well. We have an election coming and supporters should see what is happening for themselves.
Great work by the way.

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You should be posting this stuff onother sites as well. We have an election coming and supporters should see what is happening for themselves.
Great work by the way.

Thanks Claw,
but the only other site you and I both post on does not allow the posting of AFL content, which is the source material here.

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Are you referring to PRE? Because claw also posts on BF as "mopsy"....if you gave him permission he could re-post it there......
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Are you referring to PRE? Because claw also posts on BF as "mopsy"....if you gave him permission he could re-post it there......

Don't think Claw needs my permission.
Any one can post any or all of my posts anywhere they see fit.
Not my problem.
Having said that I'm now getting a bit nervous how I'll be depicted. Oh well, live and learn.

PS Claw must always be typed with a capital C as a mark of respect  ;D

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ont get nervous RT, youve done a great thing and we are all very appreciative mate.

We got your back  :thumbsup

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I was astounded back in 2011 when the changes to the constitution were not debated very much on fan forums.
I was even more astounded when the vote was 183 (3 proxies) to 7 (4 proxies) in favour of the motion to allow APPOINTED directors.

I will never again look back and think I could have done more to help my club, even in a little way.

I was lucky enough to play in three grand finals and only lost one.
It is terrible to look back and think "Gee could I have done more?"
That losing one burnt but at least I was awarded Best Player in the Finals. So I could say - I did my bit. Not enough, but I did my bit.

I will continue to publicise what I see as faults at my club this year.
If it goes as I expect and the members vote the board ticket of Ryan and Dunne, then I will walk away thinking "well at least I tried. Sometimes you just cut your losses and decide it's not your team anymore".     :'(

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Are you referring to PRE? Because claw also posts on BF as "mopsy"....if you gave him permission he could re-post it there......

Don't think Claw needs my permission.
Any one can post any or all of my posts anywhere they see fit.
Not my problem.
Having said that I'm now getting a bit nervous how I'll be depicted. Oh well, live and learn.

PS Claw must always be typed with a capital C as a mark of respect  ;D
Ive actually sort of quoted some of your stats and pointed people to this thread. You do a great job of analysing board machinations and electoral processes.I just want people to open their eyes up and not take everything the club says and does as the gospel.

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Are you referring to PRE? Because claw also posts on BF as "mopsy"....if you gave him permission he could re-post it there......

Don't think Claw needs my permission.
Any one can post any or all of my posts anywhere they see fit.
Not my problem.
Having said that I'm now getting a bit nervous how I'll be depicted. Oh well, live and learn.

PS Claw must always be typed with a capital C as a mark of respect  ;D

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If it goes as I expect and the members vote the board ticket of Ryan and Dunne, then I will walk away thinking "well at least I tried. Sometimes you just cut your losses and decide it's not your team anymore".     :'(

I actually think it will Dunne and one of the alternatives

Don't think Kerry Ryan will be returned

Just my take
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I will continue to publicise what I see as faults at my club this year.

Your club???

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I will continue to publicise what I see as faults at my club this year.

Your club???

Of course it's my bloody club.
I'm a member, supporter, emotionally involved spectator.
I may be only a small part of it (one in 70,000 plus at least) but it's my club.
Have you never been asked 'Who's your club?"

It's this criticism of Peggy's statement about "her" club I find irrelevant and distasteful.
It implies a sense of arrogance on her, and my, part that is at it's heart petty and unnecessary.

It's "my" club.
It's "the" club of all 70,000+ members and countless more supporters.
It's "our" club.     

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I will continue to publicise what I see as faults at my club this year.

Your club???

Of course it's my bloody club.
I'm a member, supporter, emotionally involved spectator.
I may be only a small part of it (one in 70,000 plus at least) but it's my club.
Have you never been asked 'Who's your club?"

It's this criticism of Peggy's statement about "her" club I find irrelevant and distasteful.
It implies a sense of arrogance on her, and my, part that is at it's heart petty and unnecessary.

It's "my" club.
It's "the" club of all 70,000+ members and countless more supporters.
It's "our" club.   

I think you must have missed the sarcasm. I actually couldn't care less what you call the/my/our club I just think it's funny that what she said actually irked people :thumbsup

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I will continue to publicise what I see as faults at my club this year.

Your club???

Of course it's my bloody club.
I'm a member, supporter, emotionally involved spectator.
I may be only a small part of it (one in 70,000 plus at least) but it's my club.
Have you never been asked 'Who's your club?"

It's this criticism of Peggy's statement about "her" club I find irrelevant and distasteful.
It implies a sense of arrogance on her, and my, part that is at it's heart petty and unnecessary.

It's "my" club.
It's "the" club of all 70,000+ members and countless more supporters.
It's "our" club.   

I think you must have missed the sarcasm. I actually couldn't care less what you call the/my/our club I just think it's funny that what she said actually irked people :thumbsup

Well yes, I did miss the sarcasm.
Particularly when I look at your posting today replying to some of my posts.
And as I've posted, I agree the posting against Peggy's "my club" was stupid but had a nasty undertone.   :thumbsup