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Re: Yarran Cut from list...official
« Reply #61 on: November 23, 2016, 06:40:22 PM »
Good....now re-sign Martin ASAP....
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Re: Yarran Cut from list...official
« Reply #62 on: November 23, 2016, 06:42:57 PM »
I'm sure some people still have hope
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« Reply #63 on: November 23, 2016, 06:53:01 PM »
Well that could be worse.

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« Reply #64 on: November 23, 2016, 07:20:25 PM »
Good....now re-sign Martin ASAP....
Surely one of the most important things on the agenda!!

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« Reply #65 on: November 23, 2016, 09:40:25 PM »
Have you ever been more embarrassed to be a Tigers supporter than this year??

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« Reply #66 on: November 23, 2016, 09:41:34 PM »
Is it likely we had a get out clause that prevents them from paying out the full salary, in situations like this.

I presume yarran would have to agree to walk away from the remaining 2 years, and if so good on him.

At the end of the day it is not his fault, not one single bit. Lazy he may be, but like hampson they they dont reward themsevles with contracts and game time. The club is the only one at fault here and instead of heads rolling, peggy sue will probably get down on bended knee and preach the good word







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Re: Yarran Cut from list...official
« Reply #67 on: November 23, 2016, 09:45:34 PM »
Have you ever been more embarrassed to be a Tigers supporter than this year??

Hmmm possibly, but the year you said Hardwick inherited Bowden and Richo was fairly emabarrassing

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« Reply #68 on: November 23, 2016, 10:02:53 PM »
Yarran will get small payout this year but is basically forgoing the bulk of his contract
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Richmond to save close to $700,000 in salary cap as consolation for losing Chris Yarran

3 hours ago by JAKE NIALL
Source: FOX SPORTS

WHILE Chris Yarran cost Richmond draft picks and did not play a single game, his exit has this consolation: the Tigers have saved close to $700,000 in their salary cap over 2017 and 2018.

Yarran was due to be paid in the vicinity of $400,000 for each of the next two years, having joined Richmond on a three-year deal last year. But in reaching an agreement to leave this week, Yarran also agreed to give up the vast majority of the estimated $800,000 he was contracted to be paid over the next two years.

The Tigers, who defended the ill-fated Yarran trade, reached a settlement that ensured he would receive a small portion of his contract in what they saw as an outcome that that would help him in his off-field issues, while also protecting the club’s interests.

Richmond will retain Yarran on their senior list in 2017, however, because there is no scope to remove listed players following the last round of delistings.

Yarran, who is heading home to Western Australia, would be given permission by the Tigers and the AFL to play football in the WAFL, if he wishes to play there. He played with Swan Districts in the WAFL prior to drafted by Carlton as a highly talented teenager in 2008.

The Tigers gave up 2015’s Pick 31 and their 2016 second round pick — which ultimately was used as Carlton’s pick 23 last year — in return for Yarran, who was contracted to the Blues.

Richmond’s football operations boss Neil Balme defended the decision to acquire Yarran.

“It’s very easy to say ‘this is the outcome, therefore it was a bad decision,’’’ Balme told SEN radio.

“If we had hindsight we wouldn’t do a lot of things and it would stop us from taking a risk on almost all of the good things that have happened in the world.’

”Sometimes they (recruits) don’t work out, but we shouldn’t just go back and say that was a bad decision, therefore you should never have done it

http://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/richmond-to-save-close-to-700000-in-salary-cap-as-consolation-for-losing-chris-yarran/news-story/1fc64e40f16b86a65aeb8b1efd27a6bf
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Re: Yarran Cut from list...official
« Reply #69 on: November 24, 2016, 12:22:52 AM »
Richmond will retain Yarran on their senior list in 2017, however, because there is no scope to remove listed players following the last round of delistings.

What a disaster. Terrible administration by the club. Heads should roll.

Richmond’s football operations boss Neil Balme defended the decision to acquire Yarran. “It’s very easy to say ‘this is the outcome, therefore it was a bad decision,’’’ Balme told SEN radio.

Oh Neil. It's going to be tough job this one. You might have to use this same angle when they sack Hardwick mid season and people question you about his contract extension.
Of course it was a shocking decision, that has impacted us over 2 drafts and will hurt us for years to come.
Having said that, and as bad as it is, it is probably not in our top 5 draft disasters.


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« Reply #70 on: November 24, 2016, 04:32:44 AM »
Tigers reject calls Yarran recruitment a mistake

MICHAEL WARNER and KATE SALEMME,
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24 November 2016


RICHMOND football boss Neil Balme has rejected suggestions it was a mistake for the Tigers to recruit Chris Yarran.

Yarran failed to play a game in yellow and black after being traded to the club from Carlton during the 2015 trade period as he endured an injury-riddled season before stepping away from the game to deal with mental health issues

The Tigers gave up pick No.19 to secure the dashing defender after securing that end of first round selection in a swap for pick No.31 in last year’s draft and pick No.26 in this year’s draft.

The 25-year-old officially quit the club on Tuesday, walking away from his three-year contract, effective immediately, to deal with a mental health battle.

Balme wasn’t at Richmond at the time of the trade but defended the club’s decision amid suggestions it was warned about a risk with Yarran.

“If we had hindsight we wouldn’t do a lot of things,” Balme said. “It‘s pretty easy to sit back and say ‘oh that was a mistake’.

“I’m not convinced of that (the warnings) either. Who was giving the warnings?

“It’s pretty easy to sit back and say ‘no they should never have done it’.

“Do you think then, that Sydney shouldn’t have taken a risk on Lance Franklin? He’s had some issues with mental health etc, which we all know.

“We’ve got to make sure we don’t individualise this but was it a good idea to do that or not? Clearly it was but if he were ill you’d say no, it was a bad decision.

“You can’t just say it was a bad decision because it didn’t work out.

“There are a lot of experts around, let’s not talk about that (other trade targets at the time). Let’s just say is it worth helping these young men and take a risk to help them play the game they want to play, surely it is.

“Sometimes they don’t work out. We shouldn’t just go back over it and go ‘that was a bad decision so therefore you shouldn’t have ever done it.’ That’s not the way it should be.”

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/teams/richmond/richmond-releases-chris-yarran-from-his-contract-to-deal-with-health-issues/news-story/54c0c0a805d7ca330f8770df47cb8d90

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« Reply #71 on: November 24, 2016, 04:34:34 AM »
Chris Yarran was a recruiting risk Richmond had to take says David King as speedster quits to deal with mental health

Ben Waterworth and Max Laughton
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24 November 2016


DESPITE ‘losing’ on the deal in a pure football sense, recruiting Chris Yarran was a risk that Richmond had to take according to an AFL champion.

The former Blue, who cost the Tigers two second-round picks in a series of trades during the 2015 trade period, exited the club in a mutual agreement on Tuesday to return home to Western Australia and deal with mental health issues.

The release prompted some media commentators to criticise the Tigers trade’, with some calling his recruitment a mistake.

But North Melbourne champion David King argued Yarran’s on-field ability was so necessary for the club that it had to take the chance.

“Of the lot of them, this was probably a purpose-picked player. They lacked a damaging half-back flanker, they didn’t have that aggressive game-changer, so this guy was perfect for their failings. It was a punt that they had to take,” King told foxfooty.com.au.

“His off-field issues aside and from a sheer football point of view, it was probably a risk Richmond had to take.”

The Tigers fell from a finals contender and fringe top-four side down to 13th in 2016, which is partly why King says the move can be justified.

“If you sit on your hands and don’t take any risks at all, you’re almost certainly stagnating, if not going backwards,” King said.

“When you look at most clubs, even the premiers, over the last few years, they’ve taken some sort of risk, whether it be with a high pick for an elite level talent at a big price or a speculative opportunity, such as a Mitch Clark-style trade or the investment in a Patrick Dangerfield or Harley Bennell or Colin Sylvia in the past.

“Hindsight will tell you Yarran is a bust, but there isn’t a coach in the land who doesn’t think they can impact a disgruntled or underperforming talent at another club. They think they can get them into their premises, get them back on track and get some benefit out of it, which we all understand.

“Yep it hasn’t worked at Richmond, put a line through it, but history is littered with players that have failed with second opportunities. In the modern era, under guys like Alastair Clarkson and John Longmire, they’ve all shown that’s the model, that’s what you have to do.”

That’s an attitude backed by new Tigers general manager of football Neil Balme, who defended the club against those criticising Yarran’s recruitment based on the result rather than the process itself.

“It’s very easy to just sit back and say they shouldn’t have done it,” Balme said on SEN.

“Do you think then that Sydney shouldn’t have taken a risk on Lance Franklin? He’s had some issues with mental health … was it a good idea to do that or not? Clearly it was. But if he was ill you’d say no, that was a bad decision.

“You can’t just say that it’s a bad decision because it didn’t work out.

“Is it worth helping these young men and taking a risk to help them play the game they want to play? Surely it is.

“Sometimes they don’t work out, we shouldn’t just go back over it and say that was a bad decision so therefore you shouldn’t have ever done it.”

With Yarran returning home to Western Australia, Balme said the Tigers would support him if he wanted to rejoin his junior WAFL club Swan Districts.

“Certainly if he wanted to play for Swan Districts we would support that entirely and we wouldn’t make it difficult for him at all,” Balme said.

“If he is playing footy for Swans, we’re barracking for him.”

Former Melbourne forward David Schwarz was one of those critical of the Yarran move on Wednesday, declaring it “a big bust” and suggesting that the former Blue found things difficult after Eddie Betts left Carlton at the end of 2013.

“They were good mates and I know Eddie was a mentor for him,” Schwarz told SEN.

“He just didn’t have that support mechanism, he didn’t have that buddy there that could help him through the tough times.

“Richmond, unfortunately were probably warned about Chris Yarran but they thought better. They thought they could turn him around.

“They knew he was a wonderful talent but he had a lot of stuff going on and unfortunately for the Tigers, probably not enough research in the end into just how troubled and how many things he had going on in his life.

“Richmond, they cop another one. A lack of due diligence that has probably cost them in the long run.

“Not being able to get Chris Yarran to the field at all in a couple of years of trying … that’s a real kick in the guts.

“It’s a big bust. You talk about trades, you talk about giving up to get something. We’ve seen a lot of bad trades over the last decade but that will go down as one of the really bad ones.”

Former AFL star Wayne Schwass told SEN he had advocated for more support for players’ mental health.

“We’ve got great medical teams and we’ve got big medical teams, some of the best in the world, (with) two or three doctors, six physios (and) eight masseurs, but we might have (only) one part-time or fulltime psychiatrist,” Schwass said.

“We need to reinvest some money into the welfare and the emotional intelligence of our playing group so that we can assist players dealing with injuries of the mind and not just injuries in a physical sense.

“These are young men thrust into a big environment, they’re forced to grow up really quickly and it’s not just about their physical preparation and performance and recovery.”

http://www.stuff-richmond-had-to-take-says-david-king-as-speedster-quits-to-deal-with-mental-health/news-story/b248fe8f96683281c7c0d53c526d5dd4

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« Reply #72 on: November 24, 2016, 10:47:21 AM »


“You can’t just say that it’s a bad decision because it didn’t work out.


Yes you can. What you cant do is try and dress this up so people dont get sacked  and think that the punters are going to buy poo like this.

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« Reply #73 on: November 24, 2016, 10:51:08 AM »
I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?

why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?

Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club

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« Reply #74 on: November 24, 2016, 10:57:01 AM »
I dont get the thinking of keeping him on the list for 2017?

why waste a spot on our list? why not use it to give an extra kid a chance?

Can the club explain why? bc this is the type of stuff that makes me lose my poo at this club

at the very least, surely they can put him on the LTI list.