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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #780 on: October 02, 2022, 04:07:11 AM »
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Thats exactly what I meant by cut the Chutney poo. You were wrong. Your source was wrong if they said he never considered meeting another club.

Don't turn this into people wanting Jack to leave vs people just being open to the idea of getting something decent for him of that's how the cookie was going to crumble
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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #781 on: October 02, 2022, 08:08:10 AM »
Still maintain he may be gone by the end of trade period.

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #782 on: October 02, 2022, 10:38:07 AM »
So that would leave Adelaide..... :shh

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #783 on: October 02, 2022, 10:51:43 AM »
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Thats exactly what I meant by cut the Chutney poo. You were wrong. Your source was wrong if they said he never considered meeting another club.

Don't turn this into people wanting Jack to leave vs people just being open to the idea of getting something decent for him of that's how the cookie was going to crumble

Calm down

FYI I don't post what Chutney tells me 99% of the time these days.

And from today it will be 100%.

Thanks

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PS: you are correct there are those who were open to him being traded like you and Damo. That's your view and that's fine

There are those like me who believed it was a mistake for the club to even consider trading him (which they clearly were/are). Again my view / opinion and I'm allowed last time I checked still allowed to have one

Then there are clearly people on the forum who would like him gone as the don't rate him. Again their view

So I'm not ot quite sure why asking a question about how people will feel if he ends ups staying is such a bid deal?

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #784 on: October 02, 2022, 11:23:30 AM »
This is a team with players who have roles that have no bearing on where Graham should play. No mids are in contention for their spot or roles.
The players and their roles he is up against  are in capitals.


B:   Vlastuin - Tarrant - Grimes/Gibcus
HB; Broad - Balta - Rioli/Banks/Brown/Stack/Mansell 

That pretty much rules him out of the backline.These blokes will be picked as designated defenders or in Banks and Browns case possibly a wing. Clearly the kpp's and talls are not a role he can play and the rest have attributes that he doesn't for the running roles coming out shutdown roles .

C: Pickett - HOPPER - McIntosh/Banks/Brown/Ralphsmith. As stated he is not in front of Hopper' the outside options are far better and have the needed attributes for the roles.
R: Nankervis TARANTO - PRESTIA. Clearly he is not in contention for ruck and Taranto and Prestia are miles in front of him.

HF: BOLTON - Riewoldt - Cumberland. Well Bolton is a part of midfield rotations and a far better player in both fwd and mid roles. Cumberland simply put is a better fwd option. Clearly he cannot play JR role.
FF: MARTIN - Lynch - M Rioli. Dusty as a rotation same as Bolton. Lynchy kpf and Rioli is a designated specialist sml fwd. he is not getting any of their roles nor is he a better option for them.

Miller - COTCHIN - SONSIE - BAKER. Miller as the needed second ruck and third tall fwd option who can offer cover down back as well.
the three mids are your  midfield rotations all are in front of Graham.
Players i have not named who play midfield SHORT, ROSS, RCD who are also in contention for a midfield role.
We can only play so many mids because the specialist roles have to be filled.

Just my opinion but when you take out the specialist roles ie kpp tall fwd/def, running players ie wing hb etc specialist fwd there are only so many midfield spots left including ROTATIONS and he does not get into the 22.

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #785 on: October 02, 2022, 01:08:10 PM »
List clogger now - should Trealor him if he can’t find a club himself

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #786 on: October 02, 2022, 01:15:35 PM »


PS: you are correct there are those who were open to him being traded like you and Damo. That's your view and that's fine


I’m open to every single player on the list being traded if we get overs

Obviously players like Cotch and JR aren’t relevant before everyone goes crazy .. due to age we would get a half eaten packet of twisties and it’s not worth entertaining

I’d instantly trade Dusty, Lynch, Prestia etc etc if the trade was for the betterment of the team

Does that mean I want any gone , no it doesn’t

With Jack Graham, I , like Claw and multiple others, don’t think he’s best 22. He will play due to injuries and provides great depth as a solid B grader

Of course someone like that is tradable for the right deal .. talks of valuing as a pick 8 were borderline wacko , but by the same token I wouldn’t give him away either

I’m more than happy for him to stay ..

People need to remember trades such as the Judd trade from WC to Carlton .. Worked out ok for the Eagles lol

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #787 on: October 02, 2022, 01:25:25 PM »


PS: you are correct there are those who were open to him being traded like you and Damo. That's your view and that's fine


I’m open to every single player on the list being traded if we get overs

Obviously players like Cotch and JR aren’t relevant before everyone goes crazy .. due to age we would get a half eaten packet of twisties and it’s not worth entertaining

I’d instantly trade Dusty, Lynch, Prestia etc etc if the trade was for the betterment of the team

Does that mean I want any gone , no it doesn’t

With Jack Graham, I , like Claw and multiple others, don’t think he’s best 22. He will play due to injuries and provides great depth as a solid B grader

Of course someone like that is tradable for the right deal .. talks of valuing as a pick 8 were borderline wacko , but by the same token I wouldn’t give him away either

I’m more than happy for him to stay ..

People need to remember trades such as the Judd trade from WC to Carlton .. Worked out ok for the Eagles lol

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What would you say if Crows offered their P23?

Any interest in Fischer McAsey or whatever his name is?

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #788 on: October 02, 2022, 01:50:55 PM »
Still maintain he may be gone by the end of trade period.

Page  86 of today's HUN says:

"Richmond hard nut Jack Graham will stay with the Tigers after knocking back interest from Port Adelaide.

Newscorp has confirmed Graham, who toured Port's facilities this week, has told Tiger officials he is locked in for 2023. Graham , 24 is expected to trigger a clause in his contract to take him through to the end of 2024, when he will qualify for free agency.

Graham is a key cog in Richmond's midfield plans, following the arrivals of GWS stars Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto. "
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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #789 on: October 02, 2022, 01:54:59 PM »
Still maintain he may be gone by the end of trade period.

Page  86 of today's HUN says:

"Richmond hard nut Jack Graham will stay with the Tigers after knocking back interest from Port Adelaide.

Newscorp has confirmed Graham, who toured Port's facilities this week, has told Tiger officials he is locked in for 2023. Graham , 24 is expected to trigger a clause in his contract to take him through to the end of 2024, when he will qualify for free agency.

Graham is a key cog in Richmond's midfield plans, following the arrivals of GWS stars Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto. "

Doesn’t seem very accurate

Starting with “arrivals”

Seems very premature

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #790 on: October 02, 2022, 02:22:21 PM »
Still maintain he may be gone by the end of trade period.

Page  86 of today's HUN says:

"Richmond hard nut Jack Graham will stay with the Tigers after knocking back interest from Port Adelaide.

Newscorp has confirmed Graham, who toured Port's facilities this week, has told Tiger officials he is locked in for 2023. Graham , 24 is expected to trigger a clause in his contract to take him through to the end of 2024, when he will qualify for free agency.

Graham is a key cog in Richmond's midfield plans, following the arrivals of GWS stars Jacob Hopper and Tim Taranto. "

Doesn’t seem very accurate

Starting with “arrivals”

Seems very premature

 ;D

HUN always good for chuckle Damo  ;)

And to compare...

The Age (backpage) says
Headline is

"Port's Tiger hunt fail as Graham stays."

First 2 paragraphs says:

"Richmond midfielder Jack Graham appears set to remain a Tiger next season, hav9ng rejected an offer to join Port Adelaide.

Graham......has since told the Tigers he will not head to Alberton.

Industry source now expect Graham....to be a Tiger next season and remain u till the end of 2024"

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #791 on: October 02, 2022, 02:51:21 PM »
Damn it! Hoping to see him move on

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #792 on: October 03, 2022, 08:47:59 AM »
It seems hard to land this one as I think most are more or less on the same page. To summarise:-

*We all would prefer to have him on our list - 24 yo with 100 games.
*If the right offer came along, most would most likely be open to it
*It’s highly unlikely he’s going to be a first string midfielder with Hopper and Taranto in the team
*He will still be part of our 22 and an important support to our core mids
*He’s not the most versatile player but plays important roles for team
*Is fantastic for team culture/ethos/etc etc
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #793 on: October 03, 2022, 01:55:24 PM »
Has Adam Cooney been on another planet over the past 72 hours? :facepalm

How do you trade a player who isn't going anywhere?  ::)

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Re: Jack Graham that is [merged]
« Reply #794 on: October 03, 2022, 02:12:52 PM »
Conspiracy theory:

Matt Rendell on SEN reckons Port dumped Graham once they heard Horne-Francis was on the market.