Jack Riewoldt shouldn’t hide his passion, says Caddy ... (Herald-Sun)

[big tone]

I'd rather follow/support/barrack (not sure which one I am anymore) for a club with a player like Jack at the helm over a boring robot that just says what they think we all want to hear.
I'll take the good with the bad anyday.

Our great club lacks passion and it has since 1995. As soon as anyone starts to play with a bit of flair or with a bit of emotion the club bores it out of them.
I for one never really minded when Richo, as one of our most experienced players, had a go at a teammate if he thought they didn't do something right. Richo had his faults but he bled black and yellow and in my opinion that gave him a few concessions.

Take a look at our captains over the last 20 years- all yes men to say the least.

All I want to see is players that would do anything for the club.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

He has controlled it to a point now that it is acceptable. At least he shows hurt in losing rather than big smiles at the end of lost games shown by some.

Acceptable? Understatement of the century 

Understatement maybe and even debatable, but understatement of the century? 

You obviously haven't heard many understatements in your time.

Maybe but excuse me for actually supporting the few genuine guns in our team. Reckon he'd be in the leadership group of every other club.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

He has controlled it to a point now that it is acceptable. At least he shows hurt in losing rather than big smiles at the end of lost games shown by some.

Acceptable? Understatement of the century 

Understatement maybe and even debatable, but understatement of the century? 

You obviously haven't heard many understatements in your time.

Maybe but excuse me for actually supporting the few genuine guns in our team. Reckon he'd be in the leadership group of every other club.

Jack is one of my favourite players. He is one of our best. That doesn't mean he is immune from criticism. In his early days he did spit the dummy a bit too much and often to the detriment of his team and team mates. He has toned that down with more maturity and is now more a team player. He would be an excellent addition to the leadership group.

I am just wondering how you could take my comments in a negative way? I even praised him for showing he at least bleeds for the club.

Can you explain your attack on my comment?

[Hard Roar Tiger]

If you can explain how it's an attack, then I might be able to come up with something?

[YellowandBlackBlood]

If you can explain how it's an attack, then I might be able to come up with something?

Well you gave me the roll eyes emoticon for one and an innocent comment was turned into the "understatement of the century" by you in the same breath. I call that at least a harsh criticism which can be looked at as a form of attack on what I said.  How else would anyone interpret it?

Especially as my post did not require any comment at all IMHO. It was just my personal opinion. I wasn't disagreeing with another post or anything.

[🏅Dooks]

Eff me i hate the off season

[Hard Roar Tiger]

If you can explain how it's an attack, then I might be able to come up with something?

Well you gave me the roll eyes emoticon for one and an innocent comment was turned into the "understatement of the century" by you in the same breath. I call that at least a harsh criticism which can be looked at as a form of attack on what I said.  How else would anyone interpret it?

Especially as my post did not require any comment at all IMHO. It was just my personal opinion. I wasn't disagreeing with another post or anything.

I think he's on field behaviour is exemplary- you think it's acceptable, I presume this is because you read the herald sun and listen to sen.
He has on field presence which is apparently not allowed when you're a forward....

[YellowandBlackBlood]

If you can explain how it's an attack, then I might be able to come up with something?

Well you gave me the roll eyes emoticon for one and an innocent comment was turned into the "understatement of the century" by you in the same breath. I call that at least a harsh criticism which can be looked at as a form of attack on what I said.  How else would anyone interpret it?

Especially as my post did not require any comment at all IMHO. It was just my personal opinion. I wasn't disagreeing with another post or anything.

I think he's on field behaviour is exemplary- you think it's acceptable, I presume this is because you read the herald sun and listen to sen.
He has on field presence which is apparently not allowed when you're a forward....

Again you are attacking me for NO REASON! Why say I read the HUN and listen to SEN? What are you insinuating? That is another personal attack which is not warranted. I guarantee you I have been to more footy games than you in my life and thus form my own opinion from what I see. I also was specifically commenting about his display of emotions on field which he has controlled well, displaying enough without going overboard with abuse to team mates. All other aspects of his on field behaviour are and have been perfect.

If you think that spitting the dummy at team mates up field is good for team spirit, well then I am not sure how many team sports you have played. He does not do that any more or at least it's much more modified with a more instructional message rather than an abusive message now. That's what I was commenting on. If you don't think he ever did that well that's your prerogative but don't tell me what I have or have not seen.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

Reading the Hun or listening to SEN isn't a crime and it shouldn't be considered an attack. Again, disagreeing with a couple of emoticons isn't a personal attack, I'm starting to feel personally attacked. I happen to think Jack is a champion - in every way on and off field and I do think Richmond fans can get sucked into media vortex of key forwards/he's a Richmond player let's stir the pot.
I've played more than enough team sport to value input and commitment to the cause over what external people think as the priority. As for his dummy spitting at teammates, I think you're getting him confused with Richo.
Finally, if you're going to post an opinion, expect it to be challenged or disagreed from time to time -  don't get all wound up and accuse people of attacking you when they disagree, in my case - that's just not the case.
I don't disagree with everything you post and have also agreed with you from time to time.
I do feel protective of Jack because he's an easy target and also Batch due to his injuries. You obviously don't rate these players in the same way that I do - no problem here.

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I do feel protective of Jack because he's an easy target and also Batch due to his injuries. You obviously don't rate these players in the same way that I do - no problem here.

Now, how the hell did you come to the conclusion I don't rate Jack? Do you actually read what I write or do you take a comment and amplify it so as to cover all aspects of that player? Just because I said he used to dummy spit a bit more than I, his team mates and his coaches may want, doesn't mean I don't think he is a fantastic footballer! He is in our top 3 or 4 at the club!

As for Batch, I have said many times here, he tries hard but is limited. He has only one side and isn't blessed with pace. I wish him all the best but he has had 6 years to show us something and only in one year would you call his output "ok". I hope he stars for us but I don't think he will. His past performances don't indicate he will. I am happy to sit back and have him prove me wrong.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I do feel protective of Jack because he's an easy target and also Batch due to his injuries. You obviously don't rate these players in the same way that I do - no problem here.

Now, how the hell did you come to the conclusion I don't rate Jack? Do you actually read what I write or do you take a comment and amplify it so as to cover all aspects of that player? Just because I said he used to dummy spit a bit more than I, his team mates and his coaches may want, doesn't mean I don't think he is a fantastic footballer! He is in our top 3 or 4 at the club!

As for Batch, I have said many times here, he tries hard but is limited. He has only one side and isn't blessed with pace. I wish him all the best but he has had 6 years to show us something and only in one year would you call his output "ok". I hope he stars for us but I don't think he will. His past performances don't indicate he will. I am happy to sit back and have him prove me wrong.

My conclusion is that you don't rate Jack in the same way that I do. I see him as an elite player - on and off field and that at the very least he should be in the leadership group but most probably our captain.
You see his on field body language as "acceptable", I see it as exemplary.
That's the difference. Not sure how you can't see that or why it's making you so emotional

[YellowandBlackBlood]

I do feel protective of Jack because he's an easy target and also Batch due to his injuries. You obviously don't rate these players in the same way that I do - no problem here.

Now, how the hell did you come to the conclusion I don't rate Jack? Do you actually read what I write or do you take a comment and amplify it so as to cover all aspects of that player? Just because I said he used to dummy spit a bit more than I, his team mates and his coaches may want, doesn't mean I don't think he is a fantastic footballer! He is in our top 3 or 4 at the club!

As for Batch, I have said many times here, he tries hard but is limited. He has only one side and isn't blessed with pace. I wish him all the best but he has had 6 years to show us something and only in one year would you call his output "ok". I hope he stars for us but I don't think he will. His past performances don't indicate he will. I am happy to sit back and have him prove me wrong.

My conclusion is that you don't rate Jack in the same way that I do. I see him as an elite player - on and off field and that at the very least he should be in the leadership group but most probably our captain.
You see his on field body language as "acceptable", I see it as exemplary.
That's the difference. Not sure how you can't see that or why it's making you so emotional

Lol. How do you know I don't even think he's better than you think he is at all other facets of the game? Are you some sort of mind reader?

[Assange Tiger 😎]

Can you 2 PM each other instead?

[Hard Roar Tiger]

I do feel protective of Jack because he's an easy target and also Batch due to his injuries. You obviously don't rate these players in the same way that I do - no problem here.

Now, how the hell did you come to the conclusion I don't rate Jack? Do you actually read what I write or do you take a comment and amplify it so as to cover all aspects of that player? Just because I said he used to dummy spit a bit more than I, his team mates and his coaches may want, doesn't mean I don't think he is a fantastic footballer! He is in our top 3 or 4 at the club!

As for Batch, I have said many times here, he tries hard but is limited. He has only one side and isn't blessed with pace. I wish him all the best but he has had 6 years to show us something and only in one year would you call his output "ok". I hope he stars for us but I don't think he will. His past performances don't indicate he will. I am happy to sit back and have him prove me wrong.

My conclusion is that you don't rate Jack in the same way that I do. I see him as an elite player - on and off field and that at the very least he should be in the leadership group but most probably our captain.
You see his on field body language as "acceptable", I see it as exemplary.
That's the difference. Not sure how you can't see that or why it's making you so emotional

Lol. How do you know I don't even think he's better than you think he is at all other facets of the game? Are you some sort of mind reader?

Can you stop baiting me? That's against forum rules.

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