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Offline TigerLand

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Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« on: May 06, 2017, 11:55:35 PM »
Richmond Football Club sitting ranked 18th for Frees for and against ratio.

Currently -48 for free kicks. Absolutely pathetic. Can someone in the club say something, if this was Collingwood, Geelong, Hawthorn. Someone would say something. We lose the count every week....

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2017, 12:29:14 AM »
Sadly, we are a dumb footy side and cause our own demise with stupidity. That accounts for a number of our frees against. Having said there were 4 howlers that we got screwed on.

1) Miles 40m kick out of defence that was touched by Elton just over the boundary line. Field umpire askes the boundary umpire if the ball was touched before it went out. Boundary ump says no so the field ump pays deliberate. Sorry but 2 milliseconds difference is not deliberate  ::).

2) Dusty gathers the ball in the centre and aims to kick it long forward but kicks it off the side of the boot as a Dog attempts to smother it. The ball skews off 60m and bounces end over end out on bounds on wing. That's not deliberate either.

3) Short near the end of the game just fumbled the ball trying to grab it (the story of our night). It wasn't in our interests either to have the ball go out 5 pts down with seconds to play. The ump was probably behind the play and guessed or fell for the cries of deliberate at the end of the ground where the Bulldogs fans were.

4) The worst one wasn't a deliberate out of bounds. It was the one in our D50 where the field ump one metre from the ball clearly is heard in the mike to say "both holding" and called play on. The muppet 60m away then comes running in flapping his arms to pay a free to the Bulldogs for holding. As he's the central umpire his over-rule stands.



I could add the rushed behind to the Dogs after the siren at half-time and the throw-in call against Rance for playing on after the mark behind the goal/boundary line but apparently they are rules according to Ch 7  :-\.

Dimma was most upset post-game with the holding the ball interpretation. The Dogs did get away with a few overhead basketball throws in our tackles. Having said that they didn't fumble badly like we did either which is one of the main reasons that cost us the game.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2017, 12:48:10 AM »
There was a free kick after Jacks goal in the last (after the complaint of holding the ball against Butler) that seemed to be simply a square up or apology to the crowd as I still have no idea what that was for.

There was also a deliberate out of bounds against the Dogs on the flank to the right of the interchange. It was 50-50 but they have to be consistent.

The West Coast game at the G was a shockingly 1 sided umpired game as was the one against the Pies. We are due a game where we get rub of the green.

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2017, 02:18:02 AM »
Martin getting legged = holding the ball ::)

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2017, 03:33:37 AM »
Holding against Astbury. Umpire no more than 5m said play on, both players holding each other yet ump 50m away over rules, closest umpire looks completely bewildered at the decision.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2017, 05:50:47 AM »
Martin getting legged = holding the ball ::)

This. Tackled Martin above the knees (just) and then slipped below the knee.

Umpire has a clear view - holding the ball.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2017, 06:51:27 AM »
Unbelievably frustrating and it does change the outcome of games :banghead
I personally hate that you can drop the ball or flick the ball when talked and its play on but every so often they will pay make the correct call...again :banghead

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2017, 08:33:10 AM »
Im doing my nut over what seems to be an interpretation that if the end act is an infraction then that over rules any prior infraction from the opposing team.

Case being Martins tackled by the leg and last week someone tackled high who got pinged for holding the ball.

Absolute rubbish are all the umps taking lessons from Stevic the rat rooter

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2017, 09:11:49 AM »
with the Martin one, they ran a replay in slow motion, he literally had a grip on his ankle at the end of it
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2017, 09:24:43 AM »
The holding the ball and prior opportunity interpretation is all over the shop and just plain stuffed up.

Example 1- a player is running bouncing th ball and gets run down from behind in a ripper tackle dropping the ball cold without disposing of it, yet often we see play on called.

Example 2- a stationary player receives a handball gets smashed in the tackle a millisecond later, ball spills out without disposing of it and it's holding the ball. This happened to butler last night and happens in most games most weeks.

What is going on here?

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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2017, 09:35:41 AM »
Just depends on the umpire and how he feels about who got smashed I spose, or what jumper he has on.  THere is no consistency
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2017, 02:37:43 PM »
That central umpire should never officiate in the AFL again...or at least until he reaches puberty....must be Stevic's son..
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2017, 02:48:18 PM »
That central umpire should never officiate in the AFL again...or at least until he reaches puberty....must be Stevic's son..


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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2017, 03:09:59 PM »
These umpire peanuts really annoy me, they stuff up games and alter results unnecessarily.
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Re: Frees For and Against Tally for the Season
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2017, 06:12:18 PM »
They need to refine the rules to more black and white and less open to interpretation.

Sick and tired of being screwed over
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