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If the Dusty announcement is done properly it should be huge incentive....
Caracella and Balmey.

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No.

It's just that I'm not a total idiot.  :snidegrin

I've waited longer than many on here for a stuffen flag, or at least as long.

To be fair, you did the same thing at the end of  2014 until the whole thing went to poo.
So, for like 72 hours? :snidegrin

From memory, it went for about a week  ;)
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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No.

It's just that I'm not a total idiot.  :snidegrin

I've waited longer than many on here for a stuffen flag, or at least as long.

To be fair, you did the same thing at the end of  2014 until the whole thing went to poo.
So, for like 72 hours? :snidegrin

From memory, it went for about a week  ;)

Who didnt?
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If the Dusty announcement is done properly it should be huge incentive....

Or the opposite, depending on what is announced.

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Can Richmond Tigers can win the premiership? ...... (Age)
« Reply #34 on: August 08, 2017, 05:53:43 AM »
Can Richmond Tigers can win the premiership?

Jon Pierik
The Age
8 August 2017


Having already vented his anger at comments made by Kane Cornes, Richmond coach Damien Hardwick was quick to add the shock 67-point loss to St Kilda in round 16 would be a "wake-up" call for the Tigers.

He noticed his team's "method around the ball" had also been on the wane a week earlier against Port Adelaide, although there was enough of a contribution to snare a 13-point win. But the loss to the Saints again raised issues about the Tigers' hardness – concerns that have been erased in the four weeks since. To the point the question has to be asked – are they the best hope of keeping the premiership cup in Victoria?

The 29-point win over the Hawks has left the Tigers as the highest-ranked Victorian club at this stage of the season since 1982 – the last time they appeared in a grand final.

It's also raised expectations among the success-starved Tigers faithful, with tickets fast selling out to get aboard the "Tiger train".

"I think we just embrace it. We are enjoying the challenge at the moment and enjoying the struggle of the AFL season. It's been an incredible season so far and the players have enjoyed that behind Trent [Cotchin], Jack [Riewoldt] and Alex [Rance] really," Hardwick said.

No doubt he innocently forgot to mention a certain Dustin Martin, a one-man wrecking crew storming his way towards the Brownlow medal, and a swag of media awards.

Martin was superb against the Hawks on an afternoon the Tigers showed why they are for real. Admittedly, there are major tests to come, with nemesis Geelong up next. They have lost their past 12 straight to the Cats, their last win coming in round nine, 2006, at Simonds Stadium. Bigger picture, they must avoid the stage fright that came during three-straight elimination-final defeats.

However, this side feels more secure, has a more robust game-style and exerts tremendous pressure – the hallmark of any premiership side.

Much has been made of the pressure small forwards Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna, Dan Butler and Shane Edwards have put on inside attacking 50. Rioli had a team-high 29 pressure acts (seven tackles) against the Hawks, Butler had 22, Edwards 15 and Castagna 12. Remember the ferocity of Cyril Rioli and Paul Puopolo in the Hawks' premiership years? This ensures repeated shots at goal.

This "small-ball" line-up has left Jack Riewoldt as generally the only marking tall inside 50. The Swans, Adelaide and Cats, for instance, generally prefer having two talls.

For the Tigers, as Leigh Matthews pointed out, you play to your strengths.

"You go with what you are good at, which is speed and quickness," he said.

In Riewoldt's absence on Sunday, Josh Caddy, given a licence to also push up the field, helped to cover for Riewoldt with four goals – his best game at Punt Road. Kane Lambert and Dion Prestia also lifted.

The Tigers have also been superb defensively – and that's just as important as anything, for history shows a premier is typically ranked in the top three for least-points conceded. The Tigers are ranked No.1, conceding 77.5 points per game. The Bulldogs were third last year (72.9). The Hawks were No.1 in 2015 (70.5).

Alex Rance and David Astbury have become somewhat of a wall across half-back. Rance is second in the league for intercept possessions, behind only Adelaide's Jake Lever.

The Hawks had hoped the smaller Taylor Duryea would have quelled him. That did not work, with the bigger Jarryd Roughead eventually making him more accountable. When they were crunched by the Saints, it was no coincidence Nick Riewoldt not only stopped Rance's rebound but also booted goals himself. The Cats, no doubt, have taken note.

A more direct game plan has also been pivotal for the Tigers. They rank near the foot of the statistical ladder in terms of disposals per game, uncontested possessions and marks overall. Yet this has not impacted on their forward-50 entries, where they rank fourth (+5) in differentials and are No.1 for marks inside 50. A key to this is that they are ranked No.1 for disposal efficiency.

What would also please the Tigers is that they had a side with the fourth-fewest average games played (90) take to the field. Only North Melbourne, Gold Coast and Brisbane are below.

Essendon great Matthew Lloyd has declared "if you haven't believed in Richmond, you should now". It's a belief that's gaining currency by the week.

http://www.smh.com.au/afl/afl-news/can-richmond-tigers-can-win-the-premiership-20170807-gxqq4g.html

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Have to learn to cope with the media hype, this week will be a big test mentally as well as physically. A wounded Cats at their home ground after a demoralising loss is not going to be easy so if we are not switched on then we go from hero to zero very quickly.

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The 'experts' have us split between finishing 2nd & 3rd.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-10/who-plays-finals-who-wins-the-spoon

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No.

It's just that I'm not a total idiot.  :snidegrin

I've waited longer than many on here for a stuffen flag, or at least as long.

To be fair, you did the same thing at the end of  2014 until the whole thing went to poo.
So, for like 72 hours? :snidegrin

From memory, it went for about a week  ;)

Who didnt?
That would be me.

They need to win it this yr because make no mistake the wilderness  beckons.

Personally i cant see it but when every single other team in the comp looks just as lousy at times who knows.

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2017 not a real premiership- clawski.
Unleash the tornado

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Barrett having a bet each way in his 'Sliding Doors' column:

RICHMOND

IF ... the premiership dream wasn't real before last week's match against the Hawks ...    

THEN ... it is now. And will be in sharp focus if a win can be secured at the Cattery.


Yet under the Geelong one he says he expects them to beat us tomorrow  ::).

"but we now reckon you'll beat the Tigers and re-set for September."

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-08-11/sliding-doors-round-21

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Saw that. He loves sitting on the fence, ole Damo...

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While Matty Lloyd on 3aw was surprisingly forgiving about the loss, the past week has sadly gone to the way of the usual script:

1. Richmond has a few wins in a row including an upset win over a good side.

2. The media pumps us up on Sunday night and some journos even call us genuine contenders.

3. We're plastered all over TV and radio shows by Monday.

4. A zillion media stories are written by Tuesday.

5. Even lesser-like Tigers get full page spreads by Wednesday.

6. By Thursday, bookies have us as favourites despite our history of failing to handle expectation and irrespective of how we've struggled against
the upcoming opposition and/or at a certain venue.

7. Club does press conferences saying how it's different this time around and "we embrace expectation".

8. Obligatory appearance by coach, senior player(s) or both on the Footy Show.

9. By Friday, OER thread asks 'if this time is the real deal or is it another false dawn?'

10. By gameday, we've had a full week of glaring media and public attention while the opposition can focus on the game out of the spotlight.

Result:
We play crap with our weaknesses and weak links fully exposed; get screwed by the umps; early game-ending injury affects our structures; and we lose having failed a combination of handling expectation, favouritism, and pressure from a fully pumped up opposition.

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While Matty Lloyd on 3aw was surprisingly forgiving about the loss, the past week has sadly gone to the way of the usual script:


I am actually feeling pretty good about today at the moment.

Yep, we lost and we didn't play well.

But I am backing our boys to turn this around, win the next two and approach the finals ready to put our best foot forward.

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I am looking at the second half where I fully expect us to turn up our toes and we didn't.
Like most sides, we couldn't work out how to move the ball down the ground - particularly from the half back line and they did it routinely because it's their home ground.
I'd back us against the Cats at the G
It's that simple Spud
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