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Leaders?
« on: August 13, 2017, 08:20:28 AM »
Once again our team is tested in a finals type environment and once again it fails the test.

Even with the odds stacked in our favour our team doesn't deliver nor can't ever seem to reach the expectations heaped upon them.

Captain Cotchin:  Terrible game, this bloke is no Selwood. We needed him to get us over the line and once again he wasn't prepared to show the rest of the panty wearers in our team what's really required to get the job done.

Riewoldt - not good enough. 1 goal 3. When was the last time this fellow won us the game off his own boot? At the other end Geelongs backman were kicking them when it counted.

Rance - worst game since he got his pants pulled down by Hogan. He looked lost and beaten. The difference between Rance and the other two is that he's won us games and just so happened he had a shocker in an important finals type game. These games and of coarse finals games need to be his best games.


First things first, if our leaders can't lead the way in finals we won't ever win any. Finals is the real deal and these blokes haven't achieved anything until they can deliver us victory in finals matches.

So far they've failed us and weren't prepared to fight and fight and win.

Lest we forget:

2013 Elimination Final.
CARLTON
2.3 | 6.5 | 12.6 | 18.8 (116)
RICHMOND 3.5 | 10.7 | 12.10 | 14.12 (96)

2014 Elimination Final.
Port Adelaide
8.1 | 14.5 | 19.8 | 20.12(132)
Richmond 1.1 | 3.2 | 6.5 | 11.9 (75)

2015 Elimination Final.
Richmond
2.3 | 9.3 | 12.3 | 14.4 (88)
North Melbourne 1.6 | 6.8 | 11.13 | 15.15 (105)
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Re: Leaders?
« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2017, 08:52:37 AM »
I agree the whole 22 and coaching staff failed under finals type pressure yesterday  that is the worring part coming into finals have we learned? or still crumble under pressure.

On to our leaders Cotch goes missing in action to much when the the heat is on simple as that far to often.Jack doesn't kick the goals he needs to no longer misses way to much and it has contributed to us looseing a few tight games that's his job.


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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2017, 08:59:03 AM »
Did you even go to the game?
You carry on a like a stuffing pork chop every single time we lose a game and go missing when we win which means you have posted 7 weeks of 20 this year.
Adelaide were easily beaten there so are they stuffing sissys too?

I agree it was disappointing to lose what was a very winnable game. We didn't take our chances in front of goal, we let them get out too easily in that second quarter and were simply crucified by the umpires and stuffing Stevic.

We aren't a premiership team yet, no-one pinned us to even be a top 8 side before the season started - including you.

I also think our game plan was stifled on that narrow cesspit of a ground - we just didn't handle those dimensions well at all.

I would still back us to beat them at the 'G if we played them in September but we have to take our chances in front of goal.

All is not lost, you can't keep whining until we win the flag because by doing so, you are completely missing the point.
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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Re: Leaders?
« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2017, 11:46:53 AM »
Did you even go to the game?
You carry on a like a stuffing pork chop every single time we lose a game and go missing when we win which means you have posted 7 weeks of 20 this year.
Adelaide were easily beaten there so are they stuffing sissys too?

I agree it was disappointing to lose what was a very winnable game. We didn't take our chances in front of goal, we let them get out too easily in that second quarter and were simply crucified by the umpires and stuffing Stevic.

We aren't a premiership team yet, no-one pinned us to even be a top 8 side before the season started - including you.

I also think our game plan was stifled on that narrow cesspit of a ground - we just didn't handle those dimensions well at all.

I would still back us to beat them at the 'G if we played them in September but we have to take our chances in front of goal.

All is not lost, you can't keep whining until we win the flag because by doing so, you are completely missing the point.
Agree with you there 100% HRT.

I actually think the loss of Hawkins helped them as they became much more mobile too up forward.
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Re: Leaders?
« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2017, 12:18:15 PM »

Captain Cotchin:  Terrible game


I thought he had a good game, did a lot of hard inside work....
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Re: Leaders?
« Reply #5 on: August 13, 2017, 12:33:47 PM »

Captain Cotchin:  Terrible game


Bullshyte......get a clue and stop twisting facts to suit your agenda....

I thought he had a good game, did a lot of hard inside work

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« Reply #6 on: August 13, 2017, 12:38:23 PM »
Him & Martin dragged us back into the game in the third....but we can't let facts get in the way of people's agendas...

...and potting Rance for his first truly bad game in about 18 months....hilarious....
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« Reply #7 on: August 13, 2017, 12:40:09 PM »
I tend to agree we weren't that bad.Not playing our best and looseing away from cats by 14 pts.It's the wakeup call we may have needed before finals.I still agree tho our leaders go missing far to much when pressure is on.

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« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 12:53:21 PM »
We have over achieved so anything from here is a bonus. We have youngsters in the side who will have poor games in between good games. The leaders can only do so much, it's a long season. I say strap yourselves in and enjoy the ride.

With some intelligent drafting and more games into the younger players we will be a better side next year.

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« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 12:57:55 PM »
thought both kpds struggled Taylor had the better of Rance and thought Stanly was having a very good game until injury.

Gotta laugh at tiger supporters suggesting the loss of Hawkins helped geelong like what we would not give to have another 50 goal a yr kpf in our team or for that matter any fwd who can average more than two goals a game. but that would not help us at all either now would it.

Cotchin was decent and busted his guts all game yeah he didnt dominate but he sure put in and made a contribution. The same for Martin he had two or three hanging off him all game.
Riewoldt fmd what do people expect  he is literally the only tall fwd we have and he worked damn hard all game. Let himself down by missing a few easy shots at goal.
If anything the lack of a decent second tall really hit home in this game.

People are looking up the wrong tree if they want to blame our better players for this loss.
the inability of others to step up when our better players are not allowed to dominate is what cost us and has always been what has cost us in big games.
The lack of a decent structure and a fwd line that has struggled to kick goals all yr again bites us on the arse.too many passengers and too many cameoes again bites us on the arse.
The trouble is there is little scope for us to put this right it is why so many people just dont rate us.It is all or nothing with what we have there will be no change  trouble is all too often what we have has been shown to be not good enough when the whips really get cracking.

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Re: Leaders?
« Reply #10 on: August 13, 2017, 01:19:02 PM »
Cotchin and martin went missing in the second quarter when the game was won and lost, which historically has been a big problem with Cotchin. Its your leaders like these two that you need to play 4 quarters of footy to win those sorts of games and reignite the rest of the side when the momentum naturally swings the other way.

This was a notable factor in the loss, along with a few players who shouldnt have been out there, less tackling pressure than usual, wrong option handballs, kicking for goal, the umpiring and the lack of a genuine second tall.
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« Reply #11 on: August 13, 2017, 02:10:55 PM »
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This was a notable factor in the loss, along with a few players who shouldnt have been out there, less tackling pressure than usual, wrong option handballs, kicking for goal, the umpiring and the lack of a genuine second tall.

So all those things but still mainly Cotchin's fault.....cool story bro #insaneagenda
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« Reply #12 on: August 13, 2017, 02:52:29 PM »
Bacher Houli muffed that gettable shot in the second ....they then rushed it down the other end for a goal - 2 goal turnaround . Costly.
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« Reply #13 on: August 13, 2017, 02:59:04 PM »
Nah apprently he missed because of Cotchin's lack of leadership.....
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« Reply #14 on: August 13, 2017, 03:28:09 PM »
Bacher Houli muffed that gettable shot in the second ....they then rushed it down the other end for a goal - 2 goal turnaround . Costly.

Let's also blame Cotchin for not making sure Riewoldt got a free kick for a push in the back 2 minutes later or getting that absurd free kick paid to Menzel in the goal square reversed a few minutes later
And, of course, there's the laughable handball by Geelong over our goal line which was somehow missed as deliberate as well. Joel Bowden would've been proud of that one.
That's 3 goals in about 25 minutes of football.
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