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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2017, 11:05:23 AM »
yeah Dusty looked a bit cooked give him a run in the seconds, Cotch too
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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #16 on: September 10, 2017, 10:56:48 AM »
Just watched Tyson Stengle's highlights and he has to be a chance to replace one of our small forwards that did nothing on Friday night.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-09-09/vfl-sf-stengle-kicks-four

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #17 on: September 10, 2017, 11:10:21 AM »
No Change

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #18 on: September 10, 2017, 11:30:43 AM »
Just watched Tyson Stengle's highlights and he has to be a chance to replace one of our small forwards that did nothing on Friday night.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-09-09/vfl-sf-stengle-kicks-four

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Stengle is a rookie. He cannot be elevated.
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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #19 on: September 10, 2017, 11:42:06 AM »
Just watched Tyson Stengle's highlights and he has to be a chance to replace one of our small forwards that did nothing on Friday night.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/video/2017-09-09/vfl-sf-stengle-kicks-four

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Stengle is a rookie. He cannot be elevated.


Well the future is looking good then.


And as other posters have said "No change"


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(Unless someone stars next week against Box Hill)
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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #20 on: September 10, 2017, 01:28:03 PM »
Bolton in Castagna.

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #21 on: September 18, 2017, 03:31:10 AM »
Bolton the X factor

Michael Gleeson
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18 September 2017


Will the Tigers change a winning combination? Logic says no, but there is some chance of a tweak at selection. 

It is doubtful they will make a change but Shai Bolton presents a persuasive argument for the Tigers to consider tinkering with the set up.

Richmond's small forwards are predominantly defensive players first and attackers second. Daniel Rioli  is the most attacking, as Jason Castagna and Dan Butler tend to focus on high pressure first and the scoreboard second.

The query is whether they bring in Bolton as a more dangerous offensive player who still has the pace and pressure to play a defensive role.

But who would be squeezed out? Logically, it would either be Castagna or Jacob Townsend. The latter came into the side and had a big impact with 11 goals in two games, but was relatively quiet in the qualifying final.

Townsend is less effective than Castagna as a pressure forward but is a good mid-sized marking and goal kicking option.

The Giants already have a selection conundrum with Richmond's small forward line and taking Townsend out might further exploit that. Presently it is difficult to see who Adam Tomlinson matches up against. Tomlinson has been very good all year and was terrific against the Eagles but against the Tigers there is no natural opponent for him.

Phil Davis would be expected to go to Jack Riewoldt and Aidan Corr has the speed to play on one of the smalls and still take Dustin Martin when he goes forward. Corr has the height to compete with Martin in the air (or try to) and the pace to stick with him on a lead (or try to).

Tomlinson is then left with either Townsend, or having to play on a small forward. If GWS stick with Tomlinson, in the hope he can take Townsend, then the extra pace and X factor of Bolton would unsettle the Giants.

Source: The Age website

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #22 on: September 18, 2017, 12:31:59 PM »
The luxury that gives tigers an undisputed edge a fit and firing reserves team still in the hunt

September 18, 2017 11:47am
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RICHMOND has a luxury heading into this weekend’s preliminary final that separates them from the three other clubs that remain in the hunt for the 2017 premiership.

The Tigers’ reserves are fit and firing and will take on Port Melbourne in the VFL grand final at Etihad Stadium on Sunday. And the impact of this is twofold.

Firstly, it gives a number of AFL-listed players an opportunity to put their hand up for selection.

And secondly — should Richmond progress through to the grand final — any such inclusion will have the benefit of being match-hardened, having played the weekend before in the VFL grand final.

If injury strikes Geelong, GWS or Adelaide, however, the incoming player may not have played a competitive match for up to a month, although Adelaide’s reserves and GWS’ reserves took part in a scratch match the Saturday after the qualifying final.

With Richmond’s list at optimal health, a plethora of AFL-listed players have led the Tigers’ VFL ascension, with a 65-point thrashing of the Box Hill Hawks catapulting the club into the grand final.

Sam Lloyd, Oleg Markov, Anthony Miles, Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle, Shaun Hampson and Corey Ellis are just some of the players who’ll be looking to impress on Sunday — particularly if Richmond defeat GWS to secure a spot in the AFL grand final.

The 2017 JJ Liston Medal winner Jacob Townsend has shown it’s possible for a Tiger to force his way into the team.

And Tigers’ VFL coach Craig McRae believes it’s possible that another player could follow suit.

“Sam Lloyd’s form over the last month has been sensational, Anthony Miles continues to rack them up, Jayden Short, Oleg Markov, Corey Ellis and Shai Bolton; there’s a few waiting for opportunities,” McRae told SEN.

“This time of the year there’s normally a lot of band aids being put on and a lot of injections, but we are very fortunate we only have one injury on our list at the moment.”

Hampson’s strong VFL form has sparked debate surrounding Richmond’s structure, and whether or not the Tigers should opt to play another tall.

Toby Nankervis has admirably shouldered the ruck load all season and could arguably benefit from Hampson’s inclusion. As could Jack Riewoldt, who has played a lone hand as a key marking forward.

But McRae gave a strong indication Damien Hardwick would stick to his tried and tested formula — namely, of playing and trusting his smalls to get the job done.

“We’ve got all the talls in our VFL side. It’s been something we have talked about in match committee and it’s been well debated,” McRae said.

“Maybe we are ahead of the curve, who knows. We are creating an enormous amount of pressure in our forward line and it’s making a huge difference.

“It’s a challenge at VFL level because all those talls are playing with us now but at the moment it’s working for us.

“The speed of the game is enormous; it’s gone to a new level this year.”

While Richmond emerged from its qualifying final triumph injury-free, small forward Jason Castagna went goalless and fumbled throughout.

While he has played every match this season, it’s possible Bolton or Stengle could come in as a like-for-like replacement, with both players in strong VFL form,

“They’ve been so terrific in their growth in their first year here,” McRae said.

“Tys has probably been more consistent over the whole journey of the VFL this season, kicking over 30 goals and impacting consistently, whereas Shai has just had unbelievable moments of brilliance in our season.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/the-luxury-that-gives-tigers-an-undisputed-edge-a-fit-and-firing-reserves-team-still-in-the-hunt/news-story/f818019ddf7bfce8c78cdc1167edd4ea

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #23 on: September 18, 2017, 02:26:30 PM »
The Barometer - Preliminary Finals

Herald-Sun
18 September 2017


RICHMOND

SELECTION: Several Tigers are banging down the door in the VFL but don’t expect Damien Hardwick to mess with team chemistry. That goes for the AFL and VFL team. That said, does the VFL’s extra match fitness - the AFL team has played once in three weeks - give them an advantage? Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Sam Lloyd are on fire in the reserves while Jack Graham, Jason Castagna and VFL JJ Liston Trophy winner Jacob Townsend have been sitting idle. It would be incredibly harsh but as always, and with a Grand Final on offer, the team comes first.

BEN HIGGINS’S FORECAST:
The Tiger Army already has sweaty palms and there’s still five days to go. Richmond hasn’t been in this position often in the past 30 years and would have been confident after its qualifying final win. However, the Giants’ semi-final steamrolling of West Coast might see some doubts start to creep in. The tale of the tape should be confidence building with a heart-breaking, last-gasp loss at Spotless Stadium in Round 9 before a dour 19-point win at the MCG in Round 18.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-preliminary-finals-injury-list-and-selection-analysis-for-the-remaining-six-finalists/news-story/af055e75489d1ced7d9ab517dc5e140b

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #24 on: September 18, 2017, 03:11:47 PM »
It didn't look like the Giants did all that much either Saturday night

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #25 on: September 18, 2017, 06:01:30 PM »
The Barometer - Preliminary Finals

Herald-Sun
18 September 2017


RICHMOND

SELECTION: Several Tigers are banging down the door in the VFL but don’t expect Damien Hardwick to mess with team chemistry. That goes for the AFL and VFL team. That said, does the VFL’s extra match fitness - the AFL team has played once in three weeks - give them an advantage? Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Sam Lloyd are on fire in the reserves while Jack Graham, Jason Castagna and VFL JJ Liston Trophy winner Jacob Townsend have been sitting idle. It would be incredibly harsh but as always, and with a Grand Final on offer, the team comes first.

BEN HIGGINS’S FORECAST:
The Tiger Army already has sweaty palms and there’s still five days to go. Richmond hasn’t been in this position often in the past 30 years and would have been confident after its qualifying final win. However, the Giants’ semi-final steamrolling of West Coast might see some doubts start to creep in. The tale of the tape should be confidence building with a heart-breaking, last-gasp loss at Spotless Stadium in Round 9 before a dour 19-point win at the MCG in Round 18.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-preliminary-finals-injury-list-and-selection-analysis-for-the-remaining-six-finalists/news-story/af055e75489d1ced7d9ab517dc5e140b

You mean the round 9 game where we were robbed of Minor premier status due to poor Umpiring decision. (boltons goal/non goal) oh yeah I remember that one
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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #26 on: September 18, 2017, 06:24:22 PM »
The Barometer - Preliminary Finals

Herald-Sun
18 September 2017


RICHMOND

SELECTION: Several Tigers are banging down the door in the VFL but don’t expect Damien Hardwick to mess with team chemistry. That goes for the AFL and VFL team. That said, does the VFL’s extra match fitness - the AFL team has played once in three weeks - give them an advantage? Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Sam Lloyd are on fire in the reserves while Jack Graham, Jason Castagna and VFL JJ Liston Trophy winner Jacob Townsend have been sitting idle. It would be incredibly harsh but as always, and with a Grand Final on offer, the team comes first.

BEN HIGGINS’S FORECAST:
The Tiger Army already has sweaty palms and there’s still five days to go. Richmond hasn’t been in this position often in the past 30 years and would have been confident after its qualifying final win. However, the Giants’ semi-final steamrolling of West Coast might see some doubts start to creep in. The tale of the tape should be confidence building with a heart-breaking, last-gasp loss at Spotless Stadium in Round 9 before a dour 19-point win at the MCG in Round 18.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-preliminary-finals-injury-list-and-selection-analysis-for-the-remaining-six-finalists/news-story/af055e75489d1ced7d9ab517dc5e140b

You mean the round 9 game where we were robbed of Minor premier status due to poor Umpiring decision. (boltons goal/non goal) oh yeah I remember that one
Dont forget Cameron encroaching over the mark that wasnt called 50m for a certain Dusty goal  :whistle

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #27 on: September 18, 2017, 06:46:09 PM »
The Barometer - Preliminary Finals

Herald-Sun
18 September 2017


RICHMOND

SELECTION: Several Tigers are banging down the door in the VFL but don’t expect Damien Hardwick to mess with team chemistry. That goes for the AFL and VFL team. That said, does the VFL’s extra match fitness - the AFL team has played once in three weeks - give them an advantage? Shai Bolton, Tyson Stengle and Sam Lloyd are on fire in the reserves while Jack Graham, Jason Castagna and VFL JJ Liston Trophy winner Jacob Townsend have been sitting idle. It would be incredibly harsh but as always, and with a Grand Final on offer, the team comes first.

BEN HIGGINS’S FORECAST:
The Tiger Army already has sweaty palms and there’s still five days to go. Richmond hasn’t been in this position often in the past 30 years and would have been confident after its qualifying final win. However, the Giants’ semi-final steamrolling of West Coast might see some doubts start to creep in. The tale of the tape should be confidence building with a heart-breaking, last-gasp loss at Spotless Stadium in Round 9 before a dour 19-point win at the MCG in Round 18.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/afl-preliminary-finals-injury-list-and-selection-analysis-for-the-remaining-six-finalists/news-story/af055e75489d1ced7d9ab517dc5e140b

You mean the round 9 game where we were robbed of Minor premier status due to poor Umpiring decision. (boltons goal/non goal) oh yeah I remember that one
Dont forget Cameron encroaching over the mark that wasnt called 50m for a certain Dusty goal  :whistle

Dont you remember? the AFL ticked this one off as a correct decision as apparently we had a player encroaching the area  :lol

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Re: Changes for the Prelim Final?
« Reply #28 on: September 18, 2017, 07:38:05 PM »
In the Mix - Preliminary Final

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18 September 2017


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The Tigers' charge towards the VFL Grand Final has kept a number of fringe senior players in the frame for AFL selection with performances that can't be ignored.

The small forward positions are under the microscope, with Sam Lloyd (30 possessions in the VFL) continuing a strong run of form that included a 48-possession, four-goal effort three weeks ago. The speed and goal sense of Shai Bolton remains appealing, but it would be a bold move for the Tigers to change their forward mix at this stage.

Half-back Oleg Markov (26 possessions and a goal in the VFL) was the last player dropped to make way for Josh Caddy and he would be selected if the Tigers decided they needed more run against the Giants.

Clearance specialist Anthony Miles (34 possessions) has been a ball-magnet at VFL level since his last senior game in round 20 and is available if centre-square reinforcements are needed.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-18/in-the-mix-whos-a-chance-for-the-prelims

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Tigers face stick-or-twist selection dilemma (afl site)
« Reply #29 on: September 20, 2017, 03:41:42 AM »
Tigers face stick-or-twist selection dilemma

afl.com.au
20 September 2017


RICHMOND will have a selection decision to ponder ahead of the preliminary final against Greater Western Sydney.

The Tigers will need to weigh up whether to take an unchanged line-up into the game for the fourth time this season or throw a selection curveball at the Giants by picking first-year player Shai Bolton.

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However, any discussion on whether Bolton could replace Jason Castagna or Jacob Townsend should be short and swift.

Castagna, Dan Butler and Dan Rioli have formed the AFL's best three-piece band in 2017, with each laying between 70-75 tackles this season and kicking between 20 and 27 goals. 

Their work together has been reminiscent of Hawthorn's forward trio of Luke Breust, Paul Puopolo and Cyril Rioli during the Hawks' three-peat of premierships between 2013-2015.

Despite that, the Tigers are likely to consider the pace and clean hands of first-year speedster Bolton as he has been in good form in the VFL, kicking at least two goals a game at that level.

Bolton is raw and his selection would be a huge gamble given he has played just six games, laying 15 tackles and kicking three goals in that time.

His most recent AFL game was in round 19 when the Tigers defeated Gold Coast, and although he is clever, the coaches would not be entirely sure he would provide what was needed. 

Forwards Castagna and Townsend have incentive to perform well in the preliminary final if they want to be guaranteed a Grand Final spot.

Townsend burst onto the scene in round 22 kicking 11 goals in the final two games.

He kicked just two goals in the qualifying final from three disposals but made a significant contribution as he subdued Lachie Henderson, restricting the Cat's ability to take marks and spoil as the third man across.

Townsend wins contested ball inside 50 and can play either a negative or attacking role, so he keeps his spot. 

Castagna is one of nine Tigers to play every game in 2017 but he battled for touch in the qualifying final.

He still laid four tackles and kicked a goal, with the response to his major – his first since round 19 – showing how valuable his teammates regard his contribution.

He also performed exceptionally well against Greater Western Sydney at the MCG in round 18, laying nine tackles (eight in the second half) and kicking a goal.

That should give the out-of-contract 21-year-old confidence ahead of the biggest game of his career.

He knows the Tigers' system better than Bolton and is part of a forward group that has got the job done defensively all season.

Castagna therefore deserves his spot and the chance to cash in on the experience gained in the first final.

The Tigers are in the preliminary final for a reason, having kept the faith all season with their method and personnel.

Now is not the time to blink.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-09-19/tigers-face-stick-or-twist-selection-dilemma