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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #240 on: October 24, 2017, 11:59:56 PM »
I wonder what it will be next year.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #241 on: October 25, 2017, 06:20:35 AM »
“At the request of the complainant the investigation into the circulation of intimate images has ceased.

“This current development does not preclude the investigators from reopening the investigation at a later date.”

It appears the complainant has done a statement of no complaint. As the offence is a summary offence and not an indictable offence there is a time limit with regards to laying charges. Usually(although there are some exceptions) with a summary offence the police have 12 months to lay charges from the date of the incident otherwise they are statute barred from pursuing charges.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #242 on: October 25, 2017, 06:35:09 AM »
No wonder people can't stand journos when you have flogs like obrien and blobbo jumping to their usual conclusions

Not to mention the usual "I want to stay relevant peaces" by Caro And Rita

It must eat a lot of people up inside to see this story disappear like a fart in the wind.



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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #243 on: October 25, 2017, 06:56:51 AM »
Will be interesting to see what happens now

What will the AFL do?

Wouldn't be popping champagne just yet

Cop investigation might be over

Doesn't mean the AFL wont do something so they are seen to be doing something

It is the AFL way.

Heard Ch7 reporter Emily Angwin on SEN driving home tonight she was asked if she knew if there had been some sort of financial settlement between player / club / AFL and woman. She said they were still trying to establish that

Said the above last night

Still think folks should hold their collective horses a bit - this isn't over, one part of it is but....

The AFL being the AFL still might do something or force the RFC to do something, as I said it is their way

I don't think they can do anything without naming the player involved, and don't think they should but doesn't mean they wont...

Everyone keeps comparing this to "chopstick gate" and what seems to get forgotten in that comparison is that although the police did nothing, the Club via the AFL did still "fine" Dusty. Same still could happen here



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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #244 on: October 25, 2017, 07:09:41 AM »
It's exactly like the chop sticks saga

Everyone out for blood and once again were left looking like fools.

If it's a fine by the club it would be to shut the AFL community up, not because they think the boy is guilty



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« Reply #245 on: October 25, 2017, 07:19:08 AM »
It's exactly like the chop sticks saga

Everyone out for blood and once again were left looking like fools.

If it's a fine by the club it would be to shut the AFL community up, not because they think the boy is guilty

Difference is that there was no real evidence that Dusty did what he was accused of doing.
In this case, there was both exhibit A and B
“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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« Reply #246 on: October 25, 2017, 07:21:39 AM »
No wonder people can't stand journos when you have flogs like obrien and blobbo jumping to their usual conclusions

Not to mention the usual "I want to stay relevant peaces" by Caro And Rita

It must eat a lot of people up inside to see this story disappear like a fart in the wind.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #247 on: October 25, 2017, 08:53:51 AM »
Well well well

Listening to SEN driving in this morning they said that even though the Police investigation is currently closed the AFL & RFC are still reviewing / investigating this

So clearly it isn't over


 
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« Reply #248 on: October 25, 2017, 10:03:07 AM »
Well well well

Listening to SEN driving in this morning they said that even though the Police investigation is currently closed the AFL & RFC are still reviewing / investigating this

So clearly it isn't over

no police investigation means its over.

You can jump up and down with suzie o and the rest of the lunatics, but if a fine or suspension is given its only to appease the corrupt bodies involved here.



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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #249 on: October 25, 2017, 10:26:13 AM »
no police investigation means its over.

You can jump up and down with suzie o and the rest of the lunatics, but if a fine or suspension is given its only to appease the corrupt bodies involved here.

Fair dinkum I wish you'd take the time to read everything before you jump and down and call me a lunatic

Earlier this morning I posted this

Will be interesting to see what happens now

What will the AFL do?

Wouldn't be popping champagne just yet

Cop investigation might be over

Doesn't mean the AFL wont do something so they are seen to be doing something

It is the AFL way.

Heard Ch7 reporter Emily Angwin on SEN driving home tonight she was asked if she knew if there had been some sort of financial settlement between player / club / AFL and woman. She said they were still trying to establish that

Said the above last night

Still think folks should hold their collective horses a bit - this isn't over, one part of it is but....

The AFL being the AFL still might do something or force the RFC to do something, as I said it is their way

I don't think they can do anything without naming the player involved, and don't think they should but doesn't mean they wont...

Everyone keeps comparing this to "chopstick gate" and what seems to get forgotten in that comparison is that although the police did nothing, the Club via the AFL did still "fine" Dusty. Same still could happen here


Did you bother to read it? Any part of it not clear enough for you? I actually said "I don't think they can do anything without naming the player involved, and don't think they should but doesn't mean they wont...

So please tell me how that's jumping up and down and joining the so called "lunatics"

As I said the cop investigation might have dropped their investigation for now. Read their press statement it clearly states the woman doesn't want to proceed but they also clearly states it can be re-opened...

the only reason the cops have stopped their investigations is because the woman for reason's only she can explain and clearly wont explain instigated it

Further to  that I also said it will be interesting to see what the AFL does now because in their world they have to be seen to be doing something....

Whether we like it or not, agree with it or not the police investigation and the AFL investigation are now 2 separate issues and that's what is at play now

So the AFL can if they chose to act and punish the player under some rule they will change the meaning of to suit their purpose, again like it or not agree with it or not because that's what (as history tells us) they do








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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #250 on: October 25, 2017, 11:36:19 AM »
If someone has allegedly committed a criminal offence, do the police really need the victims permission to stop or continue the investigation?

Maybe some of the more legal types can help me here.
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« Reply #251 on: October 25, 2017, 11:53:28 AM »
If someone has allegedly committed a criminal offence, do the police really need the victims permission to stop or continue the investigation?

Maybe some of the more legal types can help me here.

I hope this is of some assistance. Usually for a person to be charged with a criminal offence  a complainant needs to make a statement to the Police about the accused's alleged criminal conduct. However this is not always the case for example in some cases provided the accused has made admissions to committing a criminal offence the Police do not have to rely on a statement from the complainant to make out the offence. If the accused has made no admissions to committing an offence and the police have a statement of no complaint from the complainant and there is no other evidence to corroborate the commission of an offence eg CCTV footage then the Police will not pursue charges for lack of evidence. Police can and often do to take into account the wishes of a complainant when deciding whether to pursue charges against an accused particularly in relation to alleged sex crimes.  Having said that police commonly pursue charges in family violence cases even when the complainant has refused to make a statement or wishes for no charges to be laid.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #252 on: October 25, 2017, 01:04:36 PM »
Well well well

Listening to SEN driving in this morning they said that even though the Police investigation is currently closed the AFL & RFC are still reviewing / investigating this

So clearly it isn't over

technically its not over but with the police investigation closed (the most serious investigation), this train has run out of coal and is gliding silently to an imminent halt.

you know it. i know it. even the media with their stunning absence of opinion pieces knows it.

in the the absence of a conviction (let alone a complaint to the police) and to keep identites anonymous, the most that will feasibly  happen is a fine. if that. And if a fine happens it will be to manage perceptions rather than anything else.


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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #253 on: October 25, 2017, 01:20:01 PM »
Essendon great Tim Watson and top lawyer Nick Pappas call for Richmond and AFL to hand down sanctions to premiership Tiger

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RICHMOND has “fiercely denied” questions that the woman involved in the circulated topless premiership medal photo was paid before telling police that she would drop her complaint, according to 3AW broadcaster Neil Mitchell.

Mitchell said he had put the question directly to the Tigers on Wednesday morning.

“My question: Was money paid? Did the Richmond Football Club, a player or a supporter, pay the girl to drop the action?” Mitchell asked on 3AW.

“I’ve asked that question of her lawyers and the club as well. Only a short while ago, the club fiercely denied any money was paid — although how they’d know whether a supporter did it is questionable. But they say the club and the player did not compensate her.”

The Tigers’ denial comes after an AFL great and top lawyer called for sanctions against the Richmond player involved.

At the request of the complainant, Victoria Police on Tuesday night ceased its investigation into the intimate images of a topless woman wearing a premiership medal, but reiterated that it could be reopened at a later date.

Police had earlier identified the Richmond player who took the photo, which was sent out on social media after the Tigers’ premiership win on September 30.

Essendon legend Tim Watson believes it is now “incumbent” on both Richmond and the AFL to discipline the Tigers player involved in the circulation of the photo.

“I can completely understand how the girl in this story doesn’t want to go any further because she would understand completely and utterly the publicity that would surround this,” Watson said on SEN Breakfast.

“At some point, her identity would be revealed and it becomes a greater story and a greater concern for her.

“The girl still maintains that her trust and her privacy have been breached by the unauthorised distribution of the photo, therefore I would think it is incumbent on the AFL and Richmond to have some form of punishment attached to all this if they are fair dinkum about this whole idea of respect and responsibility for women.”

On Tuesday night, a spokesperson for Maurice Blackburn Lawyers — the firm representing the woman — told the Herald Sun that she “maintains that her trust and privacy has been breached by the unauthorised distribution of the photo”.

Nick Pappas QC, who was appointed the Chief Magistrate of Victoria at the age of 35, said police could continue its formal investigation even if the woman no longer wanted to be part of it.

“Any sort of offence where the police have been given some sort of information, including where there’s a complainant who’s made a statement, such as in this case — presumably she’s made a statement — is sufficient to permit the police to continue their investigation and, indeed, the prosecutor,” Mr Pappas told 3AW.

“They’d certainly take into account her wishes, bearing in mind they’ve spent arguably a week or two investigating it, taking statements, there’s been public resources and public interest in the matter. So the views of the complainant, in this case, are only one of the factors have been taken into account.

“A couple of the others, though, are strength of the case, the likelihood of conviction, the amount resources that have been expended already, the very question of the message to the community — there are a number of issues.”

But Mr Pappas agreed that the AFL must get involved in the matter now.

“This is a question of public standards and morality and very much the question of how the men of our game deal with the young women of the game, who associate with them, and respect and equality and proper treatment of individuals who are bigger than the game, with all due respect to the game,” Mr Pappas said.

“These things seem to happen a bit, the AFL purports to be setting moral and community standards and to distribute an image without consent is clearly not acceptable.”

Mitchell said the case was “too important” to let the player go unpunished.

“This is an important message to every young idiot — footballer or not — that women in this situation should be treated decently. This case had enormous potential to spread the message on cyber safety and privacy,” Mitchell told 3AW.

“The women’s privacy must be maintained here, but the case shouldn’t stop here, the case shouldn’t rest here.”

Earlier this month, Richmond chief executive Brendon Gale said his club wanted to help police get to the bottom of the incident.

“This club feels very strongly about creating an environment where women can thrive and this club feels very strongly about promoting attitudes and behaviours that are respectful of and supportive of women,” he said.

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Re: Nude Premiership Medal Photo
« Reply #254 on: October 25, 2017, 01:35:46 PM »
Flogs are still making assumptions....

...hypocrite Watson's never quite got over his Tigers old man telling him before his debut against Richmond all those years ago that if the match is close to "remember who this family barracks for"... :shh
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