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The mystery of Josh Schache's slide – and how the Brisbane Lions point the finger at Richmond

Caroline Wilson
The Age
13 October 2017


Just how Josh Schache went from being close to the hottest football prospect in the county to a footballer not one club has yet been prepared to entertain a trade for remains the most intriguing story of the AFL's player market period.

Even though the Jake Stringer stand-off is extraordinary, there is a far more simple explanation behind the relative lack of interest in the 23-year-old who was the Western Bulldogs' best forward. And one the Bulldogs must understand was largely of their own making in terms of trade value. They contributed to his current standing as damaged goods.

Why the 2016 premiers would insist on a first-round draft pick after coach Luke Beveridge suggested flaws of character, personal standards and commitment and said Stringer's departure was in the best interests of the team remains unfathomable.

Added to that the unsavoury and damning assessment delivered on the eve of the grand final by Stringer's former partner and mother of his two children, which included accusations of a string of paramours including a 17-year-old fan and a gambling addiction, you'd have to wonder why Stringer's club tried to stand firm over pick No.11.

Schache is just 20 and two years ago was taken by the Lions with pick two in the national draft – a Murray Bushranger whom the Brisbane Lions insist showed no signs of becoming a "go-homer". Now the club has been struggling to raise interest in the big key forward for even a second-round pick.

Surely that will change. Our view is the club will achieve a trade and the tyre-kicking from Victorian clubs will resume in earnest over the weekend. And put an end to the unhappy saga that has damaged the images of both club and player and transformed the homesick boy from Seymour into something of a political football.

Schache has become the subject of a spat between Brisbane and Richmond that erupted in recent weeks when the Lions new list manager Dom Ambrogio accused his Tigers' counterpart Blair Hartley of distracting the already troubled young player during his second season at the Gabba.

The Brisbane view was that Richmond wooed Schache and in doing so contributed to his poor form and reduced commitment. This version also dictates that former Lions coach Justin Leppitsch stayed in touch with the player once he rejoined the Tigers as an assistant coach.

Further there was an allegation that Richmond subsequently lowered Schache's trade stocks by passing on stories alluding to his fragility involving a first-hand experience after the Tigers interviewed him.

Richmond, in turn, angrily deny all of the above. The Tigers claim that while they interviewed Schache they lost serious interest in the player as an immediate prospect once he re-signed with the Lions. When Schache was offered around again, say the Tigers, their situation had changed. Nor were they prepared to consider the estimated minimum price tag, which, in a best-case scenario, would involve something with a three in front of it.

Richmond say Brisbane have only themselves to blame. That the club failed to adequately care for Schache's welfare in his first season and did not put enough thought into his living circumstances. Even the Lions would privately admit Schache was physically exhausted at the end of 2016 and he should have been managed more conservatively in a playing sense. Still back in year one he showed signs of being the dominant forward his No.2 draft placing suggested he would become.

Either way Schache was clearly unhappy at Brisbane by the late autumn of 2017 and his form mirrored that. There were still signs – an early competitive effort against Steven May being one – but Schache looked to join the line of early draft picks wanting out. No one was more surprised than the Lions football department when he re-signed.

Football can be a fickle game. Not only are small forwards all the rage but clubs are shying away from the bigger variety – ones who take significant time to develop. It's hard to imagine Tom Boyd earning the wage and the heavy selling price that came with his move to the Bulldogs had GWS attempted to trade him now.

And in another premiership victory heavily punctuated by pressure and intensity comes further devaluing of players seen as less competitive.

You only had to listen to Simon Goodwin's speech at the Melbourne best and fairest to understand why Jack Watts was on the way out.

Now Schache has become a public relations problem for Brisbane and the club must trade him. Just as Luke Hodge's weird decision to play again up north is a major marketing victory for the Lions as they work to attract the nation's best talent, Schache presents as a warning reminder of the opposite, of a time hopefully past when Brisbane was a poor football club.

Like the high-maintenance Stringer and the Bulldogs; Ambrogio, Chris Fagan and football boss David Noble must cut their losses and move the 20-year-old on. Like with Stringer, there's no going back now and a new jumper presents as his football salvation.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/the-mystery-of-josh-schaches-slide--and-how-the-brisbane-lions-point-the-finger-at-richmond-20171013-gz0fei.html

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Doesn't sound like they would deal with us now even if we actually wanted him. 

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Doesn't sound like they would deal with us now even if we actually wanted him.

They are just trying to deflect the blame for their poor management of the player.

If we made them an offer, they'd take it. Don't reckon it would need to be that much either.

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Anybody know what this first hand experience was? Did he have a car crash or something like that? I know they can throw you.

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All those jets plucked from them by other clubs and they cracl the sads over our approaching Schache. No wonder that club is falling apart at the seams. If the Hodge experiment fails that club is just about finished. Again.

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Sounds like he has too much emotional baggage regardless. We don't need to waste another pick on a player who would struggle to make our AFL team atm and who could fall to pieces when he's not considered a star of the team. Better to recruit and would with a new, unblemished player

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I believe we need Schache as insurance for Jack and even Nankervis going down with injury. There's been bigger turn around in the history of AFL football than what we require from Schache and his first year was perfectly fine - it's been this past season which has been the issue.
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“I find it nearly impossible to make those judgments, but he is certainly up there with the really important ones, he is certainly up there with the Francis Bourkes and the Royce Harts and the Kevin Bartlett and the Kevin Sheedys, there is no doubt about that,” Balme said.

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I believe we need Schache as insurance for Jack and even Nankervis going down with injury. There's been bigger turn around in the history of AFL football than what we require from Schache and his first year was perfectly fine - it's been this past season which has been the issue.
Talls is a key weakness in our list

From a purely playing perspective Schache looks like he should be a good for us, so there is obviously something else lingering in the background.

From our team's perspective, I am guessing that they place a premium on recruiting players who fit our cultural system, these connections that everyone at the club keeps talking about. If this bond between players, coaching staff and everyone else at the club is what has delivered us the 2017 flag, the last thing the club will want to do is to destabilise that.