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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #525 on: April 02, 2024, 08:24:37 PM »
lOL 195CM 97KG Melican and they ping just about the shortest bloke in the comp for jumping into the air to spoil what the stuff did they expect him to do just run into his knees.

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #526 on: April 02, 2024, 08:26:16 PM »
It appears the bar to satisfy medium impact is very low. It only needs to be affected by contact.

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #527 on: April 05, 2024, 06:50:13 PM »
From Barrett's Sliding Doors column.



IF ...
it's not the norm for a club to offer its captaincy role as part of contract negotiations ...

THEN ...
in Richmond's case, doing so to Liam Baker would be worthy of deep consideration. He'd be really, really good at it. And he wants it, too.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/1100034/sliding-doors-if-this-is-going-to-sound-harsh-about-max-king-then


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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #528 on: April 13, 2024, 05:57:08 PM »
Leading contender for in-demand Richmond gun revealed

Multiple rivals are said to be circling the premiership Tiger.

Mitch Keating
zerohanger.com
April 13, 2024


Fremantle is reportedly ahead of West Coast in the race for an off-contract Tiger. However, Richmond remains viewed as the most likely landing spot for the in-demand Western Australian for 2025 and beyond.

Both the Dockers and Eagles have been tied to premiership Tiger Liam Baker, who remains unsigned beyond this year.

The Pingaring product gained interest from both WA clubs two years ago before recommitting at Punt Road, with intrigue from his home state renewed ahead of another contract call.

Baker has delayed discussions on his future early into the new season as he places a focus on his form, with the 26-year-old set to return from a one-game suspension this weekend when the Tigers face the Eagles in Perth on Sunday.

As West Coast potentially look to pry Baker back home, the Eagles are said to be third in the queue for the Tigers utility, who is viewed to be more likely to remain in the yellow and black than seek a switch across the Nullabor.

According to Triple M's Ryan Daniels, Fremantle are seen as the leading club for Baker between the two Western Australian sides.

The Dockers are loaded with a trio of first-round picks for this year's draft alone, with the Cockburn club joining the Eagles in being "very, very interested" in Baker's services.

"Liam Baker is exactly the type of player you want, no matter where your club is at. If you're West Coast and you're trying to develop some toughness, versatility and winning culture... that's Liam Baker," Daniels said on Xav and Michelle.

"It doesn't matter where your club is at, that's why every club is lining up to get a shot at Liam Baker. Richmond are absolutely desperate to re-sign him, he's having a really good season.

"West Coast and Fremantle are very, very interested. I would say Richmond is leading the race, because it is hard to pry someone away. He's going to command a lot.

"I would rank it that Richmond are cleary ahead, then I'd say Fremantle are next. He would fit in very well at Freo. They have the draft capital to get him, and I know West Coast are interested too.

"He met with both of those clubs two years ago and ended up staying at Richmond. In three weeks they're all going to sit down and Liam Baker is going to figure out what he's going to do."

https://www.zerohanger.com/leading-contender-for-in-demand-richmond-gun-revealed-afl-trade-news-149418/

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #529 on: April 13, 2024, 07:38:01 PM »
For lack of a better word, pretty proud to see the amount of interest bakes is getting. He’s a 173cm rookie pick, he played in 2 flags and now the WA clubs if not more are frothing over him.

Hope he stays, however if he leaves, seems like we’ll be atleast getting a good pick back.

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #530 on: April 14, 2024, 02:03:02 PM »
The bidding war for Richmond’s fabulous Baker boy

Jake Niall
The Age
April 14, 2024


Liam Baker met with both West Coast and Fremantle in 2022, before he decided to remain with Richmond, where he had played in premierships in 2019 and 2020.

West Coast were the stronger suitor then, even though an improved Fremantle played finals that year while the Eagles were in the early phase of a scorched earth recession that has not abated.

Baker, weighing up his options as judiciously as he does on the field, just couldn’t leave Tigerland. Loyalty to teammates and comfort in the Richmond environment prevailed.

But in an era when top-shelf players are routinely given seven- and eight-year deals – long enough to see off a few prime ministers and Carlton coaches – Baker signed only for two seasons. He had the currency to secure a five-year contract if he wished.

So, he kept his options open.

In 2024, Baker has another call to make on whether he wishes to remain at Richmond or return to his home state of Western Australia, for family, friends and farm (Baker, like Fremantle champion, Nat Fyfe hails from Lake Grace).

There are a few considerations in Baker’s call.

The first one will be personal. Does he want to go home?

Then, if he decides to leave Melbourne, the decision turns to which of West Coast or Fremantle is the better choice. We can safely assume that the Eagles and Dockers will both want him if he’s available.

Staying, of course, means sticking with the club that overlooked his lack of height (173 centimetres) and the fact that they had an abundance of small forwards then (Jack Higgins and Dan Butler were then at Richmond, Daniel Rioli was still a forward), Baker having been drafted primarily as a forward. The Tigers felt then that he was simply too good to bypass.

It’s possible that one of the WA teams will want him more than the other. The Eagles certainly need mid-20s players more acutely than Fremantle, given their dismal state.

Conversely, Baker and his management might prefer the Dockers, who are the length of the Nullarbor ahead of their local rivals on the scale of premiership proximity.

Here’s summary of the options before Baker, who, as a seventh-year player, is not a free agent.

1. Stay at Richmond

This remains the easiest call to make. Richmond is his football home, the club that has nurtured and helped forge his career; it is also a powerful club, replete with history and seasoned, highly capable people at the helm, despite Damien Hardwick’s exit.

Baker is not likely to decide until the back half of the season, from what one can gather from people who know Baker’s situation. This should not necessarily be read as a portent of an exit, since he waited until late 2022 before re-signing.

This extra time allows him to see how the revamped coaching panel, headed by Adem Yze, operates and where the club is headed. Yze has praised Baker and made clear that he really wants him around, as the Tigers attempt to rise again with a mix of seasoned players and new kids.

There’s another potentially large carrot: the captaincy.

Toby Nankervis, now a standalone skipper, is 30 in August. Baker is a vice captain and one of the lead candidates to take over.

Should Baker stick with the Tigers, it would make sense to sign a long-term deal and secure his financial future.

2. West Coast

The Eagles, doubtless, would offer Baker an attractive contract and the prospect of a leadership role at a club he followed in his youth. They can offer him a vision of a power club’s restoration, which, admittedly, will take some years.

The new list manager at West Coast, Matty Clarke, was recruiting manager at Richmond until a few weeks ago and was part of the team that drafted Baker. The new chief executive, Don Pyke, has exceptional football acumen and a mandate to remake the club.

And while players always want to win finals and flags, Baker has played in two premierships, and could be ready for a lifestyle change that revolves around family and friends in WA.

The slows on West Coast are a) the sheer scale of the list reconstruction ahead, and b), the uncertainty around the senior coach, Adam Simpson and his allies.

It is hard to see Simpson surviving beyond his contract, which runs until the end of 2025, and he could well be leaving at the end of this season, given he barely survived 2023.

West Coast cannot sacrifice a first-round pick for Baker, considering their probable ladder position this year and next. If they’re on the bottom (a win on Sunday afternoon against the depleted Tigers would make that slightly less likely), they could use the pre-season draft as a lever to snare Baker or another player, with minimal draft cost. Under the rules, he can simply walk via the pre-season draft.

There’s little chance, however, that Baker will dud the Tigers by taking the pre-season draft path. More likely, Richmond would have to settle for an end-of-first-round – the Eagles surely will seek a priority pick as North did – or a second-round choice. Or something.

3. Fremantle

Should Baker decide to leave, the Dockers must be seriously considered – again, assuming they’re keen. On most counts, they have more to offer than West Coast.

First, they’ve steadily built a formidable young playing list, headed by Caleb Serong, Andrew Brayshaw, Luke Jackson and Hayden Young, and should be near contention from 2025 for a period of years.

Justin Longmuir looked shaky at the end of 2023, but the Dockers’ hierarchy has backed him – and he should be right for a couple more years minimum. Fremantle’s regime appears stable.

Importantly, Fremantle have the draft capital to consummate a trade, without much fancy footwork or angst. The Dockers have three first-rounders this year – Collingwood’s (Lachie Schultz), Port Adelaide’s and their own. Baker is worth one first-round choice, outside the top 10. He falls into the good rather than great player category.

Baker’s choice is hardly comparable to that faced by Chris Judd, Lance Franklin or Jeremy Cameron. But, with shallow talent spread across 18 clubs and the Tassie Devils about to eviscerate the drafts, the former rookie lister has picked a good time to be up for grabs.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/the-bidding-war-for-richmond-s-fabulous-baker-boy-20240412-p5fjiy.html

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #531 on: April 19, 2024, 08:36:44 PM »
RIVAL CLUB READY TO “WALK OVER BROKEN GLASS” TO LURE LIAM BAKER IN TRADE PITCH

By Lachlan Geleit
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19 April 2024


Respected footy journalist Peter Vlahos has learned details of Fremantle’s pitch to attract out-of-contract Richmond utility Liam Baker to the club this off-season.

Baker, who hails from Perth, has long been a reported target for West Coast but recent reports have suggested Fremantle are also very keen on his services.

The 26-year-old has won two premierships across his 115 games for the Tigers but recently bought a multi-million-dollar property on Perth’s waterfront.

Vlahos says that Baker is on the top of the Dockers’ shopping list and that the club has offered a deal of up to five years to the player and his management.

“Liam Baker, who we saw last week play for Richmond against the Eagles, I believe that Fremantle are making a serious pitch to get him to the land of the purple,” Vlahos said on SEN Sportsday WA.

“To the point of view that the 26-year-old is right at the top of the Fremantle Dockers’ shopping list.

“They’re keen to get a ready-made replacement for possibly when Nat Fyfe calls it time.

“They are prepared and they’ve offered Liam Baker’s management an extended contract option of up to about five years I’m hearing.”

While Fremantle are chasing Baker hard, Vlahos doesn’t expect the Eagles to simply lie down and let their rivals get the inside run in hopes of luring him to their club.

He does expect the Dockers to continue ramping up their approach though and says that Fremantle are hellbent and prepared to do whatever it takes to get him in a purple jumper.

“But on the other hand, the West Coast Eagles aren’t just going to lie down and play dead,” Vlahos said.

“They too also are pretty keen to explore the possibility of Liam Baker as well.

“That’s some news that I picked up this morning that the Fremantle Dockers are hellbent to walk over broken glass if possible to get Liam Baker to the Dockers next season.

“That’s to bolster their midfield as Nat Fyfe looks to exit from that position in the not-too-distant future.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2024/04/18/newly-linked-club-ready-to-walk-over-broken-glass-to-lure-liam-baker-in/

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« Reply #532 on: April 19, 2024, 08:42:02 PM »
Richmond’s ‘next captain’ Liam Baker to be tempted west with huge AFL contract

The club is ‘walking over broken glass’ to seal the deal but a ‘ruthless’ act could stop it from happening.

Cameron Noakes
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19 April 2024


A crisis is engulfing Richmond as the race heats up for out-of-contract AFL star Liam Baker.

Former Richmond premiership captain Trent Cotchin thrust Baker’s future on the agenda during Channel 7’s Talking Footy, saying Baker and champion Dustin Martin might not be at Punt Road Oval next year.

“The (dollar) numbers that I’m hearing from the west (for Baker) are pretty significant,” Cotchin said on Wednesday night.

7NEWS chief AFL reporter Mitch Cleary said on Friday that Baker — who is the Tigers vice-captain — would have to turn down more money if he was going to stay at Richmond next year and beyond.

Cleary also clarified Cotchin’s comments around Martin, saying the suggestion was “maybe more around him retiring” rather than playing at another club.

“As for Liam Baker, this is fascinating,” Cleary said on radio station SEN.

“He is going to have to knock back more money to stay at the Tigers.

“There are going to be big offers coming from the west from Fremantle and West Coast (and) I’m of the view that Fremantle is well ahead in the race.”

Cleary said the Dockers also had three first-round draft picks that could be used in the deal for Baker.

“So right now as it sits, I know it’s early, but they’ve got (pick) six, 12 and 16 on the first-round pick calculations ... whereas the Eagles will (likely) have a pick in the top two depending on where they finish at the end of the season,” Cleary said.

“The Dockers are going to try and offload their picks. They’re in the race for (Sydney forward) Logan McDonald, does he stay at the Swans? Maybe, but they’re going to look at Liam Baker, too.

“You’d think (the Eagles) need to take (their) picks to the draft to try and top up on young talent as opposed to going for a 26-year-old like Liam Baker.

“The only other layer to this is (West Coast) could push Liam Baker to the pre-season draft and not give up any trade capital.

“But clubs are rare in doing that these days. And the new list manager of the Eagles, Matt Clarke, spent a long time at the Tigers and I couldn’t see that happening given relationships in footy.

“But if the Eagles want to get ruthless, that option is there to push him through and not give up a single draft pick for Liam Baker.”

Baker is also likely to be offered a big-money deal as the salary cap is about to explode for each club, up from just over $13.5 million to nearly $18 million.

And last month it emerged that he had already bought a multimillion-dollar riverside home in Perth.

“Right now there were 60 players who earnt more than $800,000 last year, and given the salary cap rise ... that number is going to be more than 60 players earning more than a million dollars in two or three years,” Cleary said.

“It is extraordinary .... (Baker is probably worth) around 900 (thousand a year) on the open market. Is he in your top 60 players in the comp in three years? I’d have him around that borderline.

“But he’s a pretty important player. He offers more than just his onfield (talent) and talk at Richmond is that he could be the next captain after Toby Nankervis.”

https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-next-captain-liam-baker-to-be-tempted-west-with-huge-afl-contract-c-14367695

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #533 on: April 20, 2024, 05:13:06 PM »
"I think the Adelaide Crows absolutely should take a swing at Liam Baker and put him in the guts...he fits perfectly in this team" - Cam Luke.

Outside of the West Australian clubs, which teams should try and prise Liam Baker out of Richmond? #ArmchairExperts

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/7AFL/status/1781323389463875721

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #534 on: April 29, 2024, 11:12:37 PM »
"If you are West Coast, you're going after Liam Baker and you're not trading for him, you're trying to get him through the pre-season draft."

@kanecornes says it's time for the Eagles to be ruthless.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1784889453300883869

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #535 on: April 30, 2024, 12:40:26 AM »
Does he realise they're currently higher than us on the ladder? :shh
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« Reply #536 on: April 30, 2024, 10:40:00 AM »
"If you are West Coast, you're going after Liam Baker and you're not trading for him, you're trying to get him through the pre-season draft."

@kanecornes says it's time for the Eagles to be ruthless.

https://twitter.com/FootyonNine/status/1784889453300883869

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This only happens when.
A.  The player & club are at war
B.  It's Essendon
C.  The player is a scumbag
So there is 0% chance of this happening

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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #537 on: April 30, 2024, 01:13:02 PM »
Does he realise they're currently higher than us on the ladder? :shh

I’ve never seen so much oxygen given to a known troll. Ever. Biffonator would be proud.
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« Reply #538 on: April 30, 2024, 08:16:33 PM »
From The HUN 's twitter feed

Richmond are bracing to lose Liam Baker as the price of the premiership star is revealed.

@RalphyHeraldSun has details: bit.ly/3y00Qql

https://twitter.com/superfooty/status/1785250267346424222?t=Uh0YCHU6kJP6NsGreGl7nQ&s=19
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Re: Liam Baker [merged]
« Reply #539 on: April 30, 2024, 11:10:10 PM »
Rightly or wrongly, I’d feel very very hard done by, by bakes if he left via the preseason draft.

I just can’t see him leaving without securing a trade back for us.