Author Topic: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018  (Read 24362 times)

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #255 on: June 09, 2018, 12:15:20 PM »
"Tigers smacked tonight. Ran over or fumbled 30 ground balls. Got rub of the green with umpires. Amazing they got so close. Port superb. Could have won by much more. Won the contest by 33, clearances by 13"

https://twitter.com/RalphyHeraldSun/status/1005063258615627776

How many goals after half time did they kick? 2? We would have won without that patch in the second quarter.

It was a mammoth display of 1 goal, entertaining footy at its best and reeks of a coach under the pump
Lol, yep, 100%

We couldn't have played much worse and we went down by 14 points.

I'm claiming the moral victory!

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #256 on: June 09, 2018, 12:17:33 PM »
Amazing how we keep getting the "rub of the green" yet still keep losing the free kick counts.... :shh
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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #257 on: June 09, 2018, 12:26:42 PM »
Amazing how we keep getting the "rub of the green" yet still keep losing the free kick counts.... :shh

I don't understand how everything in their forward 50 was either holding the ball or holding the man, yet down our end it was play on. In the last quarter Howard gets the ball, ducks into a tackle to draw a free kick and umpire says play on because he ducked. Only a minute or two later exactly the same thing happens down their end and they get a shot on goal. Or Ray telling Conca to just try and throw the ball when he is tackled without prior... because it must have been a League themed round with the State of Origin and he was letting them throw it all night.

The germ that called their deliberate out of bounds a 'skill error' was a joke. From now on I think we should just argue that everything is a skill error and is play on.

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #258 on: June 09, 2018, 01:37:36 PM »
Knew we were in for a long night when I counted about 4 blatant free kicks not awarded to us within the first two minutes of the match.... :shh
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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #259 on: June 10, 2018, 02:08:41 PM »
Jack backs Tigers to hit back hard

AFL media
9 June 2018


Jack Riewoldt is confident Richmond can rebound strongly from Friday night’s 14-point loss to Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval.

The star key forward believes the Tigers have learned some valuable lessons out of the hard-fought contest.

“You don’t want them (losses), but when you accept these results, you can either look at them as road blocks, or opportunities to grow,” Riewoldt told Channel Seven post-match.

“We’ve had a great attitude towards that sort of stuff before and really bounced back well . . .

“We just got beaten in contested ball. We had a part of the game, about eight minutes, I think we went down by 22 (contested possessions).

“Nothing good’s going to come when you get beaten in contested ball by 22 in the space of eight minutes.

“We thought we played okay for three quarters . . . but we just gave them a bit too much head start there in that second half.

“We were really confident at half-time and we felt that we could get back in the game. We just didn’t take our chances . . . a few fumbles across that centre-forward area there, where we really could have hit the scoreboard.

“But they’re the lessons you learn.

“We’ve got a bit of a younger squad in tonight. We’ve got a few people out, obviously Dustin (Martin) didn’t play tonight, as well.

“So it was a good chance for our younger guys to travel and learn what it’s like to play in front of a pretty hostile environment.

“It’s all part of the season, it’s all part of the journey.”

Riewoldt, who was one of Richmond’s best players against the Power, with 11 disposals, five marks, three goals and four tackles, has his sights set firmly on next Sunday’s big clash against an in-form Geelong at the MCG.

“It’s no secret that we play well at the ‘G’. So we’re looking forward to that and then, hopefully, spring-boarding into the back half of the season,” he said.

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/2018-06-09/jack-backs-tigers-to-hit-back-hard

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #260 on: June 10, 2018, 11:42:16 PM »
From Robbo's 'tackle' column:

RICHMOND’S CONTEST WORK

No Dusty, no Richmond is extreme commentary. But when your best player is not playing, clearly there is an impact. The Tigers got smashed around the contest on Friday night, losing the contested footy by 34, which was their second-worst result for the year. (Their worst was against Adelaide in Round 2). They lost the ground ball by 15, which was only the second time they have lost this category this year. (also against Adelaide). Best they finish top two and avoid Adelaide Oval methinks.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-alan-richardson-st-kilda-in-the-line-of-fire-as-robbo-lists-his-likes-dislikes-from-round-12/news-story/78166a8457b3c779d59989f38a209d22

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #261 on: June 11, 2018, 06:49:01 PM »
From Robbo's 'tackle' column:

RICHMOND’S CONTEST WORK

No Dusty, no Richmond is extreme commentary. But when your best player is not playing, clearly there is an impact. The Tigers got smashed around the contest on Friday night, losing the contested footy by 34, which was their second-worst result for the year. (Their worst was against Adelaide in Round 2). They lost the ground ball by 15, which was only the second time they have lost this category this year. (also against Adelaide). Best they finish top two and avoid Adelaide Oval methinks.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/expert-opinion/mark-robinson/the-tackle-alan-richardson-st-kilda-in-the-line-of-fire-as-robbo-lists-his-likes-dislikes-from-round-12/news-story/78166a8457b3c779d59989f38a209d22

can someone shed some light on what "losing contested footy by 34" and losing ground ball by 15, which is only the second time they have lost this category this year" means?


Also, just recalled that freekicks are contested possessions so given that we're always getting reamed in the differential, its not that surprising that we're ranked well down in contested footy.

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #262 on: June 11, 2018, 08:55:36 PM »
a free kick is a contested possession. haha very true and good point.

Nothing surprises with this sport, but what a farce that one is.



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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #263 on: June 12, 2018, 11:39:51 AM »
I didn’t believe it but it’s true.....

Champion Data describes it as: “A possession which has been won when the ball is in dispute.
“Includes looseball-gets, hardball-gets, contested marks, gathers from a hitout and frees for.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/05/16/do-contested-possessions-really-matter/



I will consider this very differently now including our free kicks against. Makes our wins even sweeter in some way considering how much we get frees against us.
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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #264 on: June 12, 2018, 12:26:01 PM »
I didn’t believe it but it’s true.....

Champion Data describes it as: “A possession which has been won when the ball is in dispute.
“Includes looseball-gets, hardball-gets, contested marks, gathers from a hitout and frees for.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/05/16/do-contested-possessions-really-matter/



I will consider this very differently now including our free kicks against. Makes our wins even sweeter in some way considering how much we get frees against us.

so given the fact the article stated we lost ground ball by 15 only the second time we've lost that count this season, I'd say that contrary to what the big picture stats say - we're actually travelling very well in contested possessions at the coal face or 'groundball'.

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Re: Richmond vs Port Adelaide @ Adelaide Oval - R12, 2018
« Reply #265 on: June 13, 2018, 12:46:48 PM »
Coaches votes (Hardwick & Hinkley)

PORT ADELAIDE v RICHMOND
10 Ollie Wines (Port)
4 Darcy Byrne-Jones (Port)
4 Chad Wingard (Port)
4 Justin Westhoff (Port)
4 Sam Powell-Pepper (Port)
2 Jared Polec (Port)
2 Jayden Short (Rich)

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-06-12/aflca-votes-round-12-pies-gun-closes-in-on-fyfe