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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #105 on: July 24, 2009, 01:03:47 PM »
Maybe it's something simple like match-ups? Essendon are a quick side. Tucky is anything but quick.
Instead of dropping Cogs, they might have wanted to leave him in and see whether he can still cut it. They already know what Tuck can and can't do. Or am I being too simplistic? ???
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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #106 on: July 24, 2009, 01:23:52 PM »
It's interesting to compare Tucky and Bowden. While Tuck lacks Bowdens footskills he has much more heart and aggression around the packs. Bowden strikes me as the more intelligent of the two but Tucky the more loyal. Bowden is more outspoken and confident whereas Tucky is more of an introvert. Bowden came to the side as a Father-son selection who claimed a place in the team very quickly while Tuck was also a Father-son at Hawthorn but had to fight his way into an AFL team after being wrongly positioned.

What they do have in common though is that they look great on the stats sheet. Bowden survived for years because of his high possession count and desposal effectiveness. Tucky has survived for years because of his contested footy and clearance count.

What these stats fail to highlight is that both have deficencies in their game that make them a hinderance at times. Bowden his lack of pace, defensive skills and 'fear' of turning the ball over by moving the ball on quickly - Tucky the quality of his desposal and decision making.

I love Tuckys attack on the ball and how he barrels through midfielders with his superior size to take possession of the ball but he lacks the polish and pace of the better midfielders in the competition. He is never tagged because he doesn't hurt opposition when he has it in his hands.

I also agree with MT regarding his age compared to the rest of our midfielders age. He will not be around or at least playing the quality of football we need when we have matured as a team. Perhaps trading him why he has worth would be a clever move this year.

I'm sorry if people think I am having a go at Bowden or Tuck with this post but I think the time to concentrate on the future is far more important now than focusing on the present or reflecting on the past.

Hard decisions need to be made and perhaps Tucky could be one of them....

Stripes

That was a good read

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Final 22 for Round 17
« Reply #107 on: July 24, 2009, 05:09:46 PM »
Side for Sunday

Richmond
B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Chris Newman
HB: Dean Polo , Luke McGuane, Matthew White
C: Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio
HF: Robin Nahas, Jack Riewoldt, Jayden Post
F: Nathan Brown, Mitch Morton, Ben Cousins
Foll: Tyrone Vickery, Daniel Jackson, Richard Tambling
I/C: Adam Pattison, Tom Hislop, Jordan McMahon, Jarrod Silvester
Emg: Adam Thomson, Mark Coughlan, Alex Rance

In: Cousins, Cotchin, Pattison, Brown
Out: Shane Tuck, Angus Graham, Mark Coughlan, Alex Rance

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #108 on: July 24, 2009, 05:12:10 PM »
It's interesting to compare Tucky and Bowden. While Tuck lacks Bowdens footskills he has much more heart and aggression around the packs. Bowden strikes me as the more intelligent of the two but Tucky the more loyal. Bowden is more outspoken and confident whereas Tucky is more of an introvert. Bowden came to the side as a Father-son selection who claimed a place in the team very quickly while Tuck was also a Father-son at Hawthorn but had to fight his way into an AFL team after being wrongly positioned.

What they do have in common though is that they look great on the stats sheet. Bowden survived for years because of his high possession count and desposal effectiveness. Tucky has survived for years because of his contested footy and clearance count.

What these stats fail to highlight is that both have deficencies in their game that make them a hinderance at times. Bowden his lack of pace, defensive skills and 'fear' of turning the ball over by moving the ball on quickly - Tucky the quality of his desposal and decision making.

I love Tuckys attack on the ball and how he barrels through midfielders with his superior size to take possession of the ball but he lacks the polish and pace of the better midfielders in the competition. He is never tagged because he doesn't hurt opposition when he has it in his hands.

I also agree with MT regarding his age compared to the rest of our midfielders age. He will not be around or at least playing the quality of football we need when we have matured as a team. Perhaps trading him why he has worth would be a clever move this year.

I'm sorry if people think I am having a go at Bowden or Tuck with this post but I think the time to concentrate on the future is far more important now than focusing on the present or reflecting on the past.

Hard decisions need to be made and perhaps Tucky could be one of them....

Stripes
I believe Joel is loyal too but well said Stripes. We need to look where the side will be in 2012-13 rather than 2010 given the future core of the side is still 22 and under. Tucky would be very useful if he was a 2nd or 3rd tier midfielder in a good side but at the moment we are using him as a 1st tier and we need better and classier 1st tier mids than a Tucky. If a Sydney or GC17 next year offered a top 10 pick you wouldn't say IMO.
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Re: Final 22 for Round 17
« Reply #109 on: July 24, 2009, 05:12:45 PM »
Edit: beat me too it Muscles  :thumbsup
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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #110 on: July 24, 2009, 05:15:41 PM »
Still no Thomilf. :(

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #111 on: July 24, 2009, 05:37:06 PM »
Essendon's final 22 for those interested .....

B: Henry Slattery, Tayte Pears, Michael Hurley
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Dustin Fletcher, Adam McPhee
C: Brent Prismall, Mark McVeigh, Andrew Lovett
HF: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Angus Monfries, Kyle Reimers
F: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Andrew Welsh, Jobe Watson
I/C: Brent Stanton, Ricky Dyson, Scott Lucas, Cale Hooker
Emg: Hayden Skipworth, Sam Lonergan, Heath Hocking

In: Lovett-Murray, Monfries
Out: Sam Lonergan, Heath Hocking

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Re: Final 22 for Round 17
« Reply #112 on: July 24, 2009, 05:47:40 PM »
Side for Sunday

Richmond
B: Jake King, Will Thursfield, Chris Newman
HB: Dean Polo , Luke McGuane, Matthew White
C: Shane Edwards, Trent Cotchin, Brett Deledio
HF: Robin Nahas, Jack Riewoldt, Jayden Post
F: Nathan Brown, Mitch Morton, Ben Cousins
Foll: Tyrone Vickery, Daniel Jackson, Richard Tambling
I/C: Adam Pattison, Tom Hislop, Jordan McMahon, Jarrod Silvester
Emg: Adam Thomson, Mark Coughlan, Alex Rance

In: Cousins, Cotchin, Pattison, Brown
Out: Shane Tuck, Angus Graham, Mark Coughlan, Alex Rance

Cogs' future must be now in doubt too. The must have considered him too slow for the Bombers. Sadly a career ruined by injury  :'(

It must be a long time since Foley, Tucky and Cogs were all out of the midfield.
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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #113 on: July 24, 2009, 06:12:29 PM »
It's interesting to compare Tucky and Bowden. While Tuck lacks Bowdens footskills he has much more heart and aggression around the packs. Bowden strikes me as the more intelligent of the two but Tucky the more loyal. Bowden is more outspoken and confident whereas Tucky is more of an introvert. Bowden came to the side as a Father-son selection who claimed a place in the team very quickly while Tuck was also a Father-son at Hawthorn but had to fight his way into an AFL team after being wrongly positioned.

What they do have in common though is that they look great on the stats sheet. Bowden survived for years because of his high possession count and desposal effectiveness. Tucky has survived for years because of his contested footy and clearance count.

What these stats fail to highlight is that both have deficencies in their game that make them a hinderance at times. Bowden his lack of pace, defensive skills and 'fear' of turning the ball over by moving the ball on quickly - Tucky the quality of his desposal and decision making.

I love Tuckys attack on the ball and how he barrels through midfielders with his superior size to take possession of the ball but he lacks the polish and pace of the better midfielders in the competition. He is never tagged because he doesn't hurt opposition when he has it in his hands.

I also agree with MT regarding his age compared to the rest of our midfielders age. He will not be around or at least playing the quality of football we need when we have matured as a team. Perhaps trading him why he has worth would be a clever move this year.

I'm sorry if people think I am having a go at Bowden or Tuck with this post but I think the time to concentrate on the future is far more important now than focusing on the present or reflecting on the past.

Hard decisions need to be made and perhaps Tucky could be one of them....

Stripes
Mate, every player in our side has deficencies and are a hinderance to our side at times. That is why we are near the bottom. I cannot help but think you take cheap shots whenever you can at our older players. Not sure what you get from it but if it makes you feel good then knock yourself out! Bowden is a two time best and fairest at our club and an all Australian player, so even though YOU may think he has been slow, lacks heart and scared but you don't play 200 odd games of AFL footy and have the career he has had without being an outstanding footballer. I personally think he is a superstar of our club!   :clapping        

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #114 on: July 24, 2009, 06:17:00 PM »
 :rollin Richmond has gone from shocking to outrageous haha dropping Tuck one of the ball magnets of the AFL & strongest body going round
Not honoring Bowden a new contract yet thay keep the likes of Coughlan & Richo broken down & players like JON, Pettifer, Edwards, Shulzs, McMahon oh please

Richmond are a disgrace

Look at how they treat there players what a disgraceful club  :lol no wonder no-one wants to play or coach us  ;D

disgraceful Tankers  ;D l always knew what was going on down there & now its finally out. Not good for a hard working Punter being ripped off from cheating AFL clubs tanking
Terry Wallet came back for unfinished buisness & that was to stuff the club up completely after he was a poo player for us
Some of the players are wanting out of the club & tensions are high. Bombshell will rock us bad for another 10 more years stay tuned

disgraceful  ;D

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #115 on: July 24, 2009, 06:21:39 PM »
That was really difficult to read TM  :(

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #116 on: July 24, 2009, 06:26:11 PM »
That was really difficult to read TM  :(

No1 Cares
  ;D

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #117 on: July 24, 2009, 06:29:04 PM »
That was really difficult to read TM  :(

No1 Cares
  ;D

That's good because I doubt anyone could read and make sense of it.

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #118 on: July 24, 2009, 06:30:10 PM »
That was really difficult to read TM  :(

No1 Cares
  ;D

That's good because I doubt anyone could read and make sense of it.

its telling you Richmond are the laughing stock of the AFL  ;D

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Re: Selected Team for Round 17 - Tuck dropped
« Reply #119 on: July 24, 2009, 06:33:29 PM »
Wonder what your ...insert relative... thinks of that?