Shane Tuck [merged]

[Infamy]

It's not tanking.  It's because he didn't follow the coach's orders.

Is Tuck getting the blame for the 2 premiership points which make it harder to tank now?

[one-eyed]

Richmond gets Cuz and Cotchin back
richmondfc.com.au
By Mic Cullen 5:00 PM Thu 23 July, 2009

THE RICHMOND side for this Sunday’s rivalry round clash with Essendon has been strengthened with the return of gun midfielders Ben Cousins and Trent Cotchin.

The Tigers have added five players and dropped two, with veteran forward Nathan Brown, promising ruckman Adam Pattison and Adam Thomson also being added.

Forced out of the squad of 25 are midfielder Shane Tuck and ruckman Angus Graham, both of whom will play for Coburg in the VFL.

Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan told richmondfc.com.au that Cousins and Cotchin hadn’t been too far away from playing last week.

“They’re good as gold – they were reasonable by game day last weekend, but they just hadn’t done anything during the week and were still crook the day before the game, so we just didn’t want send them out there under those circumstances,” he said.

“Nathan had a decent break to get himself right, then had two games to work himself into some form at Coburg.

“Adam Pattison’s been thereabouts for a good period of time, and has been consistently good at Coburg for a number of weeks, so he’s forced his way at Angus’s expense.

“Adam Thomson has been on the fringe of selection for some time, so there’s a good chance that he might come in this week.”

Matthew Richardson (hamstring tendon) and Nathan Foley (calf) are two of the Tigers elite players who are out through injury, and both could be returning soon, although Monaghan said the club would take no chances with either player.

“Richo’s progressing really well – this was his first week of full training, and as long as he can get through another full week of full training next week then he’ll be considered, but we haven’t even talked about how to bring him back, we’ve got to decide what’s best for him.

“Nathan’s progressing really well – he’s probably another week or two away, but we’ve got no intention of playing Nathan Foley until he’s 100 per cent right.”

http://www.richmondfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/6301/newsid/81275/default.aspx

[WilliamPowell]

Out: Shane Tuck, Angus Graham

 

I said after last weekend if it was up to me I'd drop Graham.... I didn't realise I had such impact 

[Jackstar is back]

but look who they have bought in, Patto

[mightytiges]

It's because he didn't follow the coach's orders.

Yep that's what I've heard. Tucky had played 104 consecutive games on end and didn't miss a game under Plough.

In: Cuz, Cotch, Browny, Patto
Out: Tucky, Gus, Rance, Cogs

I wonder if we'll win more than 15 hitouts and gawd knows how few clearances this week 

[Go Richo 12]

Dont have to be dead to be stiff!

[Jackstar is back]

I just wish the season would end, Doesnt matter what Tuck did, he doesnt deserved to be dropped. He is one player who has a red hot go each week.
And they still keep giving Hislop and Coughlan a game, RFC=losers mentality

[one-eyed]

"Shane had a chat to Jade and the coaching staff and there were obviously areas of concern they wanted him to work on and he will play at Coburg this week," Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan told Sportal when asked about Tuck's surprise omission ...

http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/saints-recall-hudghton-74539

[Jackstar is back]

"Shane had a chat to Jade and the coaching staff and there were obviously areas of concern they wanted him to work on and he will play at Coburg this week," Richmond football manager Ross Monaghan told Sportal when asked about Tuck's surprise omission ...

http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/saints-recall-hudghton-74539

Just goes to show how  much idea they actually have at Punt Road, NIL

[mightytiges]

I just wish the season would end, Doesnt matter what Tuck did, he doesnt deserved to be dropped. He is one player who has a red hot go each week.
And they still keep giving Hislop and Coughlan a game, RFC=losers mentality

Given Hislop is playing against his old side I would say Cogs will be dropped too.

Tuck does have a red hot go every week but seriously do you rate him that highly Jack? I would've though at 27 he could be potential trade bait to be honest given our other mids are young and as a group still 3-4 years away from maturing. That would make him 30 by then. He's not an A-grade midfielder.

[TigerTime]

It's not tanking.  It's because he didn't follow the coach's orders.

correct

[one-eyed]

Jade Rawlings makes Tiger scapegoat for fadeout
Sam Edmund | July 24, 2009

JADE "The Blade" Rawlings has struck again, springing a major surprise by axing Shane Tuck.

The interim Richmond coach last night sent the midfielder back to Coburg and the VFL, putting a shock end to a 104-match streak at senior level.

Tuck, 27, was dropped for form reasons, with Rawlings believed to be unhappy with his execution late in Sunday's draw with North Melbourne as the Tigers squandered a 43-point lead.

But the omission will again raise the issue of tanking.

Tuck leads Richmond in many key statistical categories.

He is a clear No. 1 in disposals, hardball gets and contested possessions, sits second in handballs received and uncontested possessions and has laid the third-most tackles for the Tigers.

Tuck's 121 hardball gets is the most in the AFL - 17 more than Geelong star Gary Ablett.

A fan favourite for his willingness to get his hands dirty, Tuck will miss Sunday's clash against Essendon at the MCG.

Angus Graham was also dropped while there is still no return for Joel Bowden. But fellow veterans Ben Cousins and Nathan Brown were included on an extended bench along with Trent Cotchin.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/sport/afl/story/0,26576,25826520-19742,00.html

[Smokey]

Tuck does have a red hot go every week but seriously do you rate him that highly Jack? I would've though at 27 he could be potential trade bait to be honest given our other mids are young and as a group still 3-4 years away from maturing. That would make him 30 by then. He's not an A-grade midfielder.

I rate him highly MT.  I think his inside contested work is critical to our developing team at the moment. From Sam Edmund's article:

"He is a clear No. 1 in disposals, hardball gets and contested possessions, sits second in handballs received and uncontested possessions and has laid the third-most tackles for the Tigers."

His omission was a much much bigger shock to me than Bowden's.

[cub]

As I am sure with most supporters! Would love to hear the reasoning behind this one.

[Stripes]

It's interesting to compare Tucky and Bowden. While Tuck lacks Bowdens footskills he has much more heart and aggression around the packs. Bowden strikes me as the more intelligent of the two but Tucky the more loyal. Bowden is more outspoken and confident whereas Tucky is more of an introvert. Bowden came to the side as a Father-son selection who claimed a place in the team very quickly while Tuck was also a Father-son at Hawthorn but had to fight his way into an AFL team after being wrongly positioned.

What they do have in common though is that they look great on the stats sheet. Bowden survived for years because of his high possession count and desposal effectiveness. Tucky has survived for years because of his contested footy and clearance count.

What these stats fail to highlight is that both have deficencies in their game that make them a hinderance at times. Bowden his lack of pace, defensive skills and 'fear' of turning the ball over by moving the ball on quickly - Tucky the quality of his desposal and decision making.

I love Tuckys attack on the ball and how he barrels through midfielders with his superior size to take possession of the ball but he lacks the polish and pace of the better midfielders in the competition. He is never tagged because he doesn't hurt opposition when he has it in his hands.

I also agree with MT regarding his age compared to the rest of our midfielders age. He will not be around or at least playing the quality of football we need when we have matured as a team. Perhaps trading him why he has worth would be a clever move this year.

I'm sorry if people think I am having a go at Bowden or Tuck with this post but I think the time to concentrate on the future is far more important now than focusing on the present or reflecting on the past.

Hard decisions need to be made and perhaps Tucky could be one of them....

Stripes