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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #180 on: September 11, 2009, 09:39:31 AM »
Pick only please, if we are going to do another rebuild might as well do it properly

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #181 on: September 11, 2009, 09:40:25 AM »
Perhaps Hawthorn, to bringing back a son of a great after making the initial mistake of delisting him early and to add additional hardness around the contests which along with their defense has been missing this year, could trade for Tuck.

I think this is the correct call. Tuck is a great player which gives him some currency but he is 28 which means he will not be there if and when the rest of the list is ready. When Tuck was absent we did not seem to miss him as much as I thought we would when the initial decision to drop him was made. Tucky is great at clearances but more often than not it is through slapping the ball on his boot and just moving it forward which is not always to our benefit.

I would have thought that Tucky's style of play with his attack on the ball and strength around the contest would have fitted Hardwick's game plan but obviously it is time to make the hard calls and Tuck's age is the biggest factor coupled with his trade value.

Hardwick and the Match Committee are making the hard calls which, regardless of my personal opinion of players, I am very pleased we are finally making.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #182 on: September 11, 2009, 09:53:12 AM »
From Greg Denham in today's Australian...

RICHMOND ..... are open to facilitating a trade for midfielder Shane Tuck, who is contracted to Punt Road next year.

The moves come after having already cleaned out seven of this year's starting list, with more players set to depart under new coach Damien Hardwick.

Already gone or about to be delisted are Kane Johnson, Joel Bowden, Nathan Brown, Kayne Pettifer, Mark Coughlan, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls and Cleve Hughes. And, as revealed in yesterday's The Australian, Andrew Raines will be traded to Brisbane next month in return from a third-round national draft selection from the Lions.

Tuck, 28, is contracted for another year, but his manager Liam Pickering has been told by the Tigers that they would prefer to trade him next month.

Tuck's fall from grace has been sudden, given that between the start of 2005 and round 16 this year, he played 104 games in succession.

After spending three weeks in the VFL under caretaker coach Jade Rawlings, he was recalled for Richmond's final three games of the season.

Tuck has finished in the top three of Richmond's best-and-fairest award three times, and was runner-up to Brett Deledio last year.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26055343-5013406,00.html

Greg Denham on SEN said the swans appear to be interested in Tuck.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #183 on: September 11, 2009, 10:00:28 AM »

Greg Denham on SEN said the swans appear to be interested in Tuck.

Reckon that would be a good fit on the small SCG plenty of contested situations and Sydney needing an in and under type.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #184 on: September 11, 2009, 10:11:21 AM »
Interesting that no one has jumped on here yet proclaiming this as a terrible decision .... :o

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #185 on: September 11, 2009, 10:27:03 AM »
It will be a terrible decision if we don't get it right. Probably best case is Tuck and a late pick for a 1st or second rounder at the least. What Picks do the Swans have.
Love Tucky and the way he goes about it and it is a shock, seeing that he would be of the type Hardwick would like.
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Tough calls needs to be made for the sake of the club and it's future.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #186 on: September 11, 2009, 10:30:29 AM »
Interesting that no one has jumped on here yet proclaiming this as a terrible decision .... :o

Thats because its a fantastic decision. They are doing things they have never done before and i take my hat off to them.

Tuck now but surely Schulz is the next to be put up.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #187 on: September 11, 2009, 10:35:13 AM »
Interesting that no one has jumped on here yet proclaiming this as a terrible decision .... :o
Tuck now but surely Schulz is the next to be put up.

I hope not. He's my roughie for a big year!  :P

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #188 on: September 11, 2009, 10:42:28 AM »
Interesting that no one has jumped on here yet proclaiming this as a terrible decision .... :o
Tuck now but surely Schulz is the next to be put up.

I hope not. He's my roughie for a big year!  :P

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #189 on: September 11, 2009, 10:55:12 AM »
Interesting that no one has jumped on here yet proclaiming this as a terrible decision .... :o
Tuck now but surely Schulz is the next to be put up.

I hope not. He's my roughie for a big year!  :P

Jay Schulz is the sunshine sally of the Richmond Football Club. You could have come up with something better as your roughie.

I'm sure you're correct but I just have a sneaking suspicion that Hardwick may turn around his career.... :-\

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #190 on: September 11, 2009, 10:56:54 AM »
I think it is a bad decision if we end up getting less than a Top 20 draft pick.
Tucky may not be the most skilful player but he is tough, durable and leaves nothing on the park at the end of a game.

That is more than can be said for a number of players not mentioned for trade including Troy Simmonds who has done absolutely nothing to earn another contract.

Forget the notion of team balance and lack of experience in the ruck - we are not expecting to finish higher than bottom 2 or 3 for the next few years so why not just get more miles into the younger key position forwards/rucks.

To me, this sends a mixed message to our playing group.
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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #191 on: September 11, 2009, 11:08:25 AM »
Its another good decision. Its a decision that says that Hardwick understands that if your over 25 you probably wont be seeing any success at Richmond any time soon. Tuck carries some currency, he is getting on and Id be happy with a pick in the 20s. Sydneys 2nd rounder would be an exceptional result- Why? Because he is 28, slow, and his disposal skills very average. 1st rounder Id be doing handstands, but alas I cant see it unless we trade Tuck and 1 of 2 3rd rounders for Sydneys 1st round- which Sydney may fall for.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #192 on: September 11, 2009, 12:00:50 PM »
Given that Sydney have lost experience of Barry and Crouch from down back and lost a bit of height in MOL, I wonder what would happen if we also offered Moore/McGuane. 1st round pick and a player in return? Looking at their list it appears as though there isn't much I would want that they would realistically offer for trade, but maybe someone has been watching the Swans closer than I?

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #193 on: September 11, 2009, 01:52:15 PM »
Cannot see any chance of Tuck ending up back at Hawthorn  ;D or should that be  ;)

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #194 on: September 11, 2009, 02:31:12 PM »
Given our recent player trade history, Morton excepted, I think it would be unwise to trade for any player. If we do go down that unrewarding road yet again, then I believe we should look for players under 22 (2004 draft age). We have along way to go and we need the players to be young enough to be around if we eventually get there!

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