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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #210 on: September 11, 2009, 10:57:08 PM »
Ok, I can see where they are going.

Now do the same with Newman.
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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #211 on: September 12, 2009, 04:02:33 AM »
Ok, I can see where they are going.

Now do the same with Newman.

Agree. Send him on his way to another club. We will get a good pick.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #212 on: September 12, 2009, 09:51:36 AM »
Hardwick needs to continue to swing the chainsaw. Hes sacked quite afew and he needs to keep sacking. The more that end up at Centrelink the better. Its a shame clubs dont have 200 players on a list, we could have had 1 sacking a day till round 1 of 2010. ;D

And if we had tanked we could have had an extra sacking!!   ;D ;D ;D
We were chasing a winning mentality for an extra 1.5 wins  :P

No surprise Tucky is being shopped around. Realistically we'd probably only get a pick in the 20s for him in a direct swap. Not having that priority pick in the top 20 hurts.
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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #213 on: September 12, 2009, 09:58:39 AM »

And if we had tanked we could have had an extra sacking!!   ;D ;D ;D

But if you tell the blokes to play to lose, its harder to find out who is disobeying team rules...

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #214 on: September 14, 2009, 06:10:02 PM »
With Voss believing the Lions need to win more contested footy I wonder if they'd be interested in Tucky. Maybe a combo deal for Tucky and Rainesy.
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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #215 on: September 14, 2009, 06:17:25 PM »
With Voss believing the Lions need to win more contested footy I wonder if they'd be interested in Tucky. Maybe a combo deal for Tucky and Rainesy.

Pick 12 and pick 44 with Jed Adcock to boot. :lol

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #216 on: September 14, 2009, 06:56:19 PM »
Pick 12 and pick 44 with Jed Adcock to boot. :lol
I know you're only joking there Tucky but I'd take 12 and 44 if it was offered for Tuck and Raines.
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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #217 on: September 15, 2009, 05:04:03 AM »
Richmond midfielder Shane Tuck has agreed to be traded to another club despite being contracted at Punt Road for another year.

Tuck, 28, has had a sudden fall from grace since the departure of previous coach Terry Wallace, given that he played 104 games in succession for the Tigers from the start of 2005 until round 16 this year. He has finished in the top three of Richmond's best-and-fairest award three times, and was runner-up to Brett Deledio last year.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26072790-5013406,00.html

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #218 on: September 15, 2009, 01:00:20 PM »
Will anyone want him though for a pick of worth?

I wouldn't take anything less than a pick in the second round for Tuck given Raines is reportedly worth a 3rd round choice.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #219 on: September 15, 2009, 01:16:52 PM »
Richmond midfielder Shane Tuck has agreed to be traded to another club despite being contracted at Punt Road for another year.

Tuck, 28, has had a sudden fall from grace since the departure of previous coach Terry Wallace, given that he played 104 games in succession for the Tigers from the start of 2005 until round 16 this year. He has finished in the top three of Richmond's best-and-fairest award three times, and was runner-up to Brett Deledio last year.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26072790-5013406,00.html



good! hopefully some club is willing to offer any pick!

we should take anything for Tuck!

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #220 on: September 15, 2009, 01:18:54 PM »
I know Tuck has his shortcomings...but why would you trade away a 28 yo with 100 games experience for another kid...so far we have 8 spots on the list (Sugar, Brown, Bowden, Cogs, JON, Raines, Hughes and Pettifer) and with Tuck maybe 9....

In a year in which the draft is compromised...having so many picks doesnt seem to make sense to me...even if we elevate 2 rookies...that still means 7 new kids....unless they trade for a couple of players...Still means say about 5 new kids...

Surely Tuck - age, hardbodied, experience etc -would be better than say another young kid in a compromised draft???

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #221 on: September 15, 2009, 02:06:24 PM »
I know Tuck has his shortcomings...but why would you trade away a 28 yo with 100 games experience for another kid...so far we have 8 spots on the list (Sugar, Brown, Bowden, Cogs, JON, Raines, Hughes and Pettifer) and with Tuck maybe 9....

In a year in which the draft is compromised...having so many picks doesnt seem to make sense to me...even if we elevate 2 rookies...that still means 7 new kids....unless they trade for a couple of players...Still means say about 5 new kids...

Surely Tuck - age, hardbodied, experience etc -would be better than say another young kid in a compromised draft???


i do agree with you "Con65". Tuck is not the first i would trade/delist.

however my personal opinion of him is that he does not run hard offensively and defensively.

Tuck has a beautiful long kick, strong mak, hard body, however i can see why Hardwick would want to off load him.

Richmond needs run threw the midfield. we need midfielders who run all day. Tuck isn't like that.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #222 on: September 15, 2009, 03:33:02 PM »
Torch...each team needs depth on its list...he is a beautiful long kick...play him in the fwd line..

But for me, with a compromised draft...it doest make sense to cut the list too deep...it cannot be fixed in one draft.  Maybe it is because this years draft is not as compromised as next years that they have thought to cut the list deep...9 players gone is alot...with possibly more..who knows..

But rhetorically, why cut Tuck and keep Thomo?  Both have a year on their contracts to run...why cut the guy with 100 games under his belt with a great long kick...and keep the other guy who struggled to get a game at port last year and only played the last 2 games this year when in both years ie Port 08 and Tiges 09 the teams were blooding kids...?

Anyway, I presume that the Football Dept know what they are doing...all will become clearer by end of the year.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #223 on: September 15, 2009, 03:48:03 PM »
But rhetorically, why cut Tuck and keep Thomo?  Both have a year on their contracts to run...why cut the guy with 100 games under his belt with a great long kick...and keep the other guy who struggled to get a game at port last year and only played the last 2 games this year when in both years ie Port 08 and Tiges 09 the teams were blooding kids...?

Anyway, I presume that the Football Dept know what they are doing...all will become clearer by end of the year.

Tuck has trade value while Thommo doesn't.
Tuck won't be around when we are pushing for the finals while Thommo, given form, is young enough to still be there.
Tuck is not fast or skillful enough to be an elite midfielder so he will be surpassed by our young mids given time regardless while Thommo still has a chance to better his game.

It's a decision based on realities and the future rather than speculation and the moment.

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Re: Tigers to trade Shane Tuck (Australian)
« Reply #224 on: September 15, 2009, 05:08:32 PM »


Tuck has trade value while Thommo doesn't.

Bingo - that's the reality

I would think we have very few on our list (outside the obvious who you wouldn't trade) that have any real currency

I suppose int he end it also depends on what others are prepared to "pay" for him pick wise.

I doubt that we would trade him for the sake of it... say a 3rd rounder, we'd want more than that surely
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