Shane Tuck [merged]

[Judge Roughneck]

losing Coughlan & Johnson and our inside mids being young; Martin, Jackson, Foley, Cotchin you would think Tuck will be on the list next year

[one-eyed]

Mark Robinson and Daryl Timms in today's Herald-Sun talking about Tucky...


MR: Richmond isn't happy with you.

DT: What have I done?

MR: Peddling rubbish about Micky Tuck's boy being on the outer at Punt Rd.

DT: He was on line to finish in the top five in their best-and-fairest before caretaker coach Jade Rawlings and others marked his papers. So, you could say there is plenty of history there. Who's been sooking, anyway?

MR: No one in particular. A memo arrived at my desk and suggested Tucky wasn't always diligent on defence.

DT: I don't think there are too many blokes at Punt Rd keen to pick up opponents.

MR: You need all-purpose game in them.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/pies-on-a-roll-as-saints-lurk/story-e6frf9ox-1225877235094

[one-eyed]

Hird on Tucky....

"Shane Tuck for me is a very good player who does not get the credit he deserves. The coach put him under the pump early in the year and he has responded in fine style. He is playing for his career, but in my opinion doing a good job at it."

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/mmvp

[Hellenic Tiger]

Another bloke who has improved under Hardwick.

[WA Tiger]

Another bloke who has improved under Hardwick.

Will either get another contract extension or have raised his trade value to a finals side.

[eliminator]

Deserves to be retained by the club

[Penelope]

If he is not retained by the club there is a fair chance he will be targeted by Gold Coast and we will get sweet FA for him.

[Infamy]

If he is not retained by the club there is a fair chance he will be targeted by Gold Coast and we will get sweet FA for him.

I disagree, in fact I hope the Gold Coast go after him
Using the AFL's mystery equation it will be based off a player who has missed 5 games in 5 years, finished ?th (10), 7th (09), 3rd (08), 3rd (07) and 10th (06) in the Jack Dyer medal, averaged 24 disposals a game for 5 years and been at the top of the entire AFL in contested posessions and clearances for much of his career.

That sounds like ticking every single box the AFL requires for a top pick to be allocated if you ask me.

[Danog]

Almost every one, Inf.  The pick he was drafted at originally is also taken into consideration.

[Infamy]

Almost every one, Inf.  The pick he was drafted at originally is also taken into consideration.

Even so, it should result in at least an early 2nd rounder

[Penelope]

If he is not retained by the club there is a fair chance he will be targeted by Gold Coast and we will get sweet FA for him.

I disagree, in fact I hope the Gold Coast go after him
Using the AFL's mystery equation it will be based off a player who has missed 5 games in 5 years, finished ?th (10), 7th (09), 3rd (08), 3rd (07) and 10th (06) in the Jack Dyer medal, averaged 24 disposals a game for 5 years and been at the top of the entire AFL in contested posessions and clearances for much of his career.

That sounds like ticking every single box the AFL requires for a top pick to be allocated if you ask me.

You've got more faith in the AFL getting it fair and equitable than me, then infamy.

Didnt they have to rethink the Ablett sitaution because Geelong would have got well under the odds for him if he moved north, heavily based on his original draft position of 40. (tuck was 70 odd).

[Penelope]

Don't know how accurate this article was, but pick 26 was touted for Ablett.


Wouldnt expect near that for Tuck.

[Infamy]

Don't know how accurate this article was, but pick 26 was touted for Ablett.


Wouldnt expect near that for Tuck.

The thing that throws the numbers out is the pick is taken directly after your actual pick in the draft, so if you finish up the top of the ladder, you get crap compensation. This article is also working on the assumption that Geelong would select to take the pick straight away in a compromised draft which pushes the pick back to around the 25-26 mark. The alternative is they can bank the pick for the next few years and select to take it when the drafts are back to normal and they have come down the ladder a bit.

This means that a 1st round compensation pick for Geelong is about the same as a 2nd round compensation pick for us.

The fact the formula is a maths equation works in our favour as one of the best players in the best teams will be judged fairly similarly to one of the dominant mature players in a crap side. Not really a fair deal, but if we can make the most of it then go for it.

If we have any belief that Tuck will be targeted by GC17, we should make sure he wins the Jack Dyer medal this year.

[Penelope]

the question is would it be an early first round or a end of second round pick? At the moment tuck is doing a lot of hard inside work, not just at the ball but also protecting lighter bodied players such as cotchin and lightening the load of Martin

Is that worth giving away for a late second round pick, or even and early second round pick?

You could probably get a late second round pick for a moore, mcguane, perhaps polo white edwards thursty rance in a trade, all of whom you could argue are easier replaced than tuck, in terms of the role they play and availability of replacement, similar type players.

The only player on the list not in the 22 at the moment that i can see doing a similar bullocking type role is Thompson, who IMHO is a fair way behind tuck. I dont see it as coincidence that as tuck came back into favor. he went out.

[Tigermonk]

Everyone kissing Tuck ass the last few weeks, His really shown he can play football at the top still.
l told everyone he is a very valued & required player