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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #60 on: September 02, 2018, 12:01:31 AM »
RICHMOND

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The Tigers rank last for clearance differential but such is their set up behind the ball it does not really matter, for their ability to rebound has been a key to their dominance. They are the best side in scoring from turnovers (+23.1 points) so what they lack around stoppages they make up for from turnovers. The Bombers and Bulldogs in recent weeks had success in getting through the Tigers' defence by attacking through the corridor – something Hawthorn is likely to do because they have the required kicking skills.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/afl-finals-2018-how-your-team-shapes-up-heading-into-week-one-20180901-p5014r.html

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #61 on: September 02, 2018, 05:24:07 PM »
i think we smash this lot been just crusing imo


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Mick McGuane analyses the tactics that will decide Tigers-Hawks QF (H-Sun)
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2018, 12:09:12 AM »
Mick McGuane analyses the tactics that will decide Tigers-Hawks qualifying final

MICK McGUANE,
Herald Sun
September 3, 2018


STOPPING Dustin Martin won’t be easy but he can’t be let off the leash.

COLLINGWOOD premiership hero MICK McGUANE dissects Thursday night’s qualifying final between Richmond and Hawthorn and pinpoints where the match will be won and lost.

HOW THEY PLAY

Each team thrives on a forward-half game, with Richmond ranked second and Hawthorn third for time spent in the forward half of the ground.

Both aim to deny the opposition ball movement out of its defensive 50 by rolling up the ground, coming in behind their attack and setting up a tight 18-man defensive structure covering all exits.

When employed successfully, it builds pressure and forces turnovers, which creates scoring opportunities.

The Tigers are the best in the AFL at creating turnovers in their forward 50; the Hawks are third.

RICHMOND

THE KEY

We know the Tigers love to play a chaos-type game — a high-pressure contest. Long kicks come out of the back half and teammates in front of the ball are aware of this.

The reason they get away with it is the group has great synergy and is well connected. It’s the opposite at the other end as they rely on short kicks inside forward 50. Their forwards use and work the space available, making them dangerous and usable options.

THE THEME

It’s all about the GBH — the ground-ball Hunt. I’ve always rated this facet of the game highly. It’s a measure of a team that is proactive rather than reactive.

The Tigers get the inside/outside balance of the contest right on most occasions. It also identifies those players who are on their toes as opposed to being on their heels. That requires will, intent and effort, and most importantly.

THE CHALLENGE

Cheating or self-preservation mode? We’ll soon find out. I’ve watched the Tigers closely in the last six weeks and they appear to be rolling the dice.

It’s either cheating (running forward of the ball) or it’s a self-preservation mindset. It’s almost like they have so much faith in each other, even when they are outnumbered, they are going to win the ball.

They take risks and look to get behind the opposition’s defence. It’s a dangerous habit to form in the subconscious when the stakes are at their highest. I’m sure Dimma is all over it, or it is by design?

HAWTHORN

THE KEY

Changing lanes is paramount. They cannot play the game in straight lines. That shifts Richmond’s defence and creates opportunities for “Pop Space” (space for teammates to run on to a little pop-up kick) to channel the ball through. It encourages run from behind the ball so the Hawks can go at speed.

To create “Pop Space” in the corridor, those teammates in front of the ball on the flanks must look to get chalk on their feet and make the ground big. Selfless running will challenge the Tiger defenders who like to own the outside.

THE THEME

The Hawks’ ball movement direction is through the corridor and over. A slow, then fast build-up will complement back-space leading using Luke Breust, Paul Puopolo and Jack Gunston, who read the cues, knowing when to lengthen the ground and stretch Richmond’s press.

THE CHALLENGE

I’d implore the Hawks to attack the corridor at every opportunity out of defensive 50. They MUST back their decisions and kicking skills. Yes, it’s high risk, but it could yield a high reward.

Dare and bravery, and having faith in your feet keeps a defensive structure honest.

Geelong dared to go through the corridor of out defensive 50 against Richmond in Round 20. That mode almost proved successful, of which Clarko would be well aware.

Turnovers will occur but great teams and individuals maintain their nerve when it matters.

MAGNET BOARD

IF I WAS RICHMOND

It’s all about taking care of inside and outside the contest. Tom Mitchell has required attention all season, even if not every club has given it to him. His impact can be diluted with a tag. George Hewitt showed us how in the last round.

Jack Graham or Trent Cotchin would love the challenge around stoppage to nullify Mitchell’s influence on winning first possession. Graham can be accountable for him in general play.

Isaac Smith is the other Hawks player I’d be putting time into. He is an outside running machine. Kamdyn McIntosh is my go-to man to keep Smith in check.

IF I WAS HAWTHORN

There is no way I would allow Dustin Martin to roam free between the arcs. He gathers 35 per cent of his disposals between the defensive 50 arc and the centre circle and a more damaging 64 per cent when centre-forward. Incredibly, he has only had five disposals in defensive 50 for the year.

Please, Clarko, bring some sanity back to the game and get someone to challenge Dusty physically and mentally. Deny him time and space. Frustrate him and live in his shadow.

The Tigers like to play with five forwards rolling up — especially Kane Lambert or Shane Edwards — to give them an extra number around the ball. This provides Martin with a creative licence to float forward when he can. He’s a beast at centre-bounce clearances, so get Liam Shields to take the role between the arcs and hand over to Ben Stratton when Martin goes forward. If selected, Daniel Howe could be a Plan B.

PREDICTION

Richmond by 15 points

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/more-news/mick-mcguane-analyses-the-key-strategies-that-will-decide-tigershawks-qualifying-final/news-story/5d8161b0241ee72b0cb3bc182ac799af

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2018, 12:19:36 AM »
 About time a great article by someone in the media very informative Micky.

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The Burning Questions: Richmond versus Hawthorn (SEN)
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2018, 04:35:54 PM »
The Burning Questions: Richmond versus Hawthorn

By Nic Negrepontis
Sept. 3, 2018


Garry Lyon and Tim Watson have gone in-depth about the biggest unanswered questions ahead of Thursday night’s blockbuster Qualifying Final between Richmond and Hawthorn.

Starting with the Richmond side of things, here’s the questions Watson believes are hanging over the heads of the Tigers.

“They need to decide whether to bring Dan Butler back into the side for a start. Kane Lambert, is he fit and ready to go?” he told SEN Breakfast.

“There’s a couple of questions they need to ask about the composition of their side.

“If Lambert’s fit, he’s in. I’m not sure about Butler though, whether he is a walk-up start to come back into that team.

“Should they be reconsidering their back-up ruck situation?”

Lyon believes the Tigers will back in what has worked.

“I don’t think they’ll change the ruck set up because it’s held them in such good stead,” he said.

The former Melbourne captain has his own question he’d like Richmond to answer.

“I think the burning question about Richmond is the last month’s minor drop off in terms of the things so dear to them,” he said.

“Is it a cause for concern or is it just a little hiccup as they start to gather themselves for September.

“His (Damien Hardwick's) question I think he has to say is going into that last round, they didn’t play their best footy and they need to get it back for the first final and if not, there’s a problem. That’s the burning question.”

As for the Hawks, the questions surround their own ruck choices.

“Will Hawthorn play two ruckmen against Richmond?” Watson asked.

Lyon thinks they should.

“That’s the same question I’ve got, do they go in with Ben McEvoy and Jon Ceglar? I would,” he said.

“I think you’ve got to compete in your forward six in the air against the best intercept marking team in the competition.”

One of the burning questions for the Hawks according to Lyon is whether they look at what the Western Bulldogs did to the Tigers in Round 23.

“A lot of teams will try and change directions and go from one side of the ground to the other on a slow player and bring it through to the other side of the ground,” he said.

“You can get teams caught out if they’re not set up really well behind the footy. Richmond handles that okay, but shorter changes of direction and quicker changes and then go.

“Imagine the ground is in eight lanes across the ground and lane one is on the far right. So rather than go from lane one to lane eight, go to lane two, quickly to three and then go.

“So you just have different attacking avenues. I think they sort of move in a structure and all of a sudden you’ve been split down an area of your defence you’re not expecting.

“The other theory is if you’re maintaining possession, Richmond’s pressure can’t get you if you’re taking uncontested marks.

The pressure Richmond brings is taken out of the equation.”

Watson believes Hawthorn can take advantage of that very thing.

“The slow deliberate movement of Hawthorn, that’s something that they do really well,” Watson said.

“They can retain possession of the ball better than any side in the competition.”

Should both teams consider tagging roles in the midfield? Lyon doesn’t think so.

Watson: “Do you tag Dustin Martin or Trent Cotchin? Who do you go after if you’re Hawthorn?”

Lyon: “I don’t think you tag. Not the way these games are played.”

Watson: “What if you’re Richmond, do you tag Tom Mitchell?”

Lyon: “Nup. They’re the premiers. They’ve gotten by not tagging. Maybe Jack Graham, but I just reckon they’ll back their own midfield in.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2018/09/02/the-burning-questions-richmond-versus-hawthorn/

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2018, 07:43:58 PM »
So only negatives on our game,but hawks a flawless nothing for us to expose them.Gez this media sometimes.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2018, 08:05:48 PM »
Starting to sound like we shouldn't even bother and it's time to start the off season.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2018, 08:12:31 PM »
I’m so depressed I feel like doing a full list analysis

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2018, 08:37:30 PM »
Last 2 weeks media been all over hawks they can expose tigers etc,master coach tigers form not great you name it.I hope Dimma and boys bottle it and show these amateurs.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #70 on: September 03, 2018, 10:36:23 PM »
FINALS FORECAST

Richmond v Hawthorn – 7:20pm @ MCG

Shower or two. 60 per cent chance of rain.
Min 13. Max 20.
Tickets: Exhausted 
Parking: No public parking, limited for passholders/disabled
Channel 7 commentators: Bruce McAvaney, James Brayshaw, Matthew Richardson, Luke Hodge, Jimmy Bartel
Simulcast on Fox Footy and Telstra AFL Live App

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2018-09-03/finals-forecast-weather-crowd-and-tickets

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2018, 10:54:28 PM »
Footy Classified's match discussion tonight:

Rich-mond, Poor-mond

                       Rd21-GF,2017   R1-16,2018   R17-23,2018
Points For             107.5              97.4               97.4
Points Against         63.2              70.7               73.4
Pressure                 198               182                175
Tackles                   76.0             63.6                57.9

Lloyd said he isn't worried by our late season drop off in pressure and tackle numbers as he remembers for him back in 2000 it was hard to keep your motivation to its highest level when you knew you were going to finish on top of the ladder.

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/1036587984097763330

What is Clarko's plan?


Lloyd and Judd said Hawthorn will try to slow the game down, keep possession via precise short kicks and turn the match in a in-close grind. Apparently the Hawks are 13-1 when opposition scores are kept <76 pts.

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/1036588054566162432

Who will play on Dusty?

They reckon Shiels will get the job.

VIDEO: https://twitter.com/FootyClassified/status/1036588241586012161

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #72 on: September 04, 2018, 01:05:51 PM »
Astbury on the game itself:

Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson said last week the key to beating the Tigers was to deny their defenders the chance to mark the ball and quickly rebound, and instead try and bring it to ground.

Astbury said they were ready to match it with the Hawks on the deck if that was their tactic.

"If you focus too much on what they're trying to do, you'll probably just shoot yourself in the foot," he said.

"Obviously they've got great speed in their forward half and bringing the ball to ground is their strength.

"He said that us marking the ball back against them is something they're going to have to try and manage, but we think we've got good players to combat their speed at ground level should the ball be there as well, so we're ready."

The Tigers haven't been dominant in the weeks leading into the finals, but Astbury said that could end up being a positive as it ensured they had faced different challenges each week.

He also said it meant they hadn't been able to rest in a "position of comfort" in the past month.

"I think it's a blessing – we got a good look at different systems and how they're going to challenge us," he said.

"We've trained it and we'll continue to train it.

"Hawthorn will have looked at our last few games and looked for opportunities to unsettle us, and we think we'll be well prepared for that."

Source: AFL website

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #73 on: September 04, 2018, 01:51:07 PM »
Astbury on the game itself:

Hawks coach Alastair Clarkson said last week the key to beating the Tigers was to deny their defenders the chance to mark the ball and quickly rebound, and instead try and bring it to ground.

Astbury said they were ready to match it with the Hawks on the deck if that was their tactic.

"If you focus too much on what they're trying to do, you'll probably just shoot yourself in the foot," he said.

"Obviously they've got great speed in their forward half and bringing the ball to ground is their strength.

"He said that us marking the ball back against them is something they're going to have to try and manage, but we think we've got good players to combat their speed at ground level should the ball be there as well, so we're ready."

The Tigers haven't been dominant in the weeks leading into the finals, but Astbury said that could end up being a positive as it ensured they had faced different challenges each week.

He also said it meant they hadn't been able to rest in a "position of comfort" in the past month.

"I think it's a blessing – we got a good look at different systems and how they're going to challenge us," he said.

"We've trained it and we'll continue to train it.

"Hawthorn will have looked at our last few games and looked for opportunities to unsettle us, and we think we'll be well prepared for that."

Source: AFL website

Cool as a Cucumber Dave spoke well.

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Re: Richmond vs Hawthorn @ the MCG --- Qualifying Final, 2018
« Reply #74 on: September 04, 2018, 02:20:20 PM »
For those who missed out on a ticket . Just checked Ticketek, great seats available at the moment. Category 2 and 3 on level 1
M56 and M52