Our best 22 for 2020?

[one-eyed]

The Herald-Sun has our best 22 (for 2019) being Rance, Graham & Stack into our premiership side and Nank, Baker & Pickett out. One of the latter would come back in for the departed Ellis for 2020 best 22.


Sarah Black
afl.com.au
6 October 2019

Best 22 in 2019 if everyone was available

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury
HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Jayden Short
C: Brandon Ellis, Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy
HF: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Shane Edwards
F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna
Foll: Ivan Soldo, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin
I/C: Nathan Broad, Jack Graham, Kane Lambert, Sydney Stack

DEPTH

Defenders: Liam Baker, Ryan Garthwaite, Derek Eggmolesse-Smith, Patrick Naish, Ben Miller
Summary: With Rance in the 22, someone has to make way and that's Baker. Rebounders Eggmolesse-Smith and Naish are two of the most improved players on the list, but key defensive depth is still an issue.

Midfielders: Marlion Pickett, Jack Ross, Kamdyn McIntosh, Riley Collier-Dawkins, Connor Menadue, Fraser Turner, Jacob Townsend, Luke English, Mav Weller
Summary: Strong midfield depth with Pickett being the 23rd player, despite his stunning Grand Final. He had been named as an emergency for several weeks prior, unable to force his way into the side until Graham's injury. There's been a few reports McIntosh may be feeling aggrieved having missed out on the VFL and AFL flags, and he's been a bit lost playing in defence in the twos. However, with Ellis on his way out, McIntosh could regain his position on the wing.

Rucks: Toby Nankervis, Mabior Chol, Noah Balta, Callum Coleman-Jones
Summary: Nankervis misses out on the 22 due to his long-term injury, while Chol and Balta impressed with their work around the ground this year. The buzz around the 20-year-old Coleman-Jones is growing, and he's one to watch in the future.

Forwards: Jack Higgins, Callum Moore, Dan Butler, Oleg Markov, Jake Aarts
Summary: Fingers are crossed for a fully fit Higgins in 2020, having undergone two bouts of brain surgery for a bleed. Moore is a good backup but doesn't look like breaking into the line-up soon, while Butler has been linked to Carlton in particular. Markov has reinvented himself as a deep forward, but consistency within games is still an issue.

WHAT DO THEY NEED? WHO ARE THEY LINKED TO?

Key position depth at both ends needs a little assistance, with Garthwaite, Miller (who can play forward or back) and Coleman-Jones (forward-ruck) still some way off. A player in their mid-to-late 20s as a stop-gap measure would work well, but they're hard to come by. After landing their big fish in Lynch in 2018, the Tigers' off-season appears to be fairly quiet.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-10-05/best-22-and-list-depth-how-is-your-club-placed-heading-into-trade-period

[one-eyed]

Embarrassment of riches: Tigers best 22 post trade period

October 24, 2019
Fox Sports

... it’s time to look at how your club’s best 22 is shaping up.

RICHMOND

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury

HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Jayden Short

C: Marlion Pickett Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy

HF: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Shane Edwards

F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna

Foll: Ivan Soldo, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

I/C: Nathan Broad, Jack Graham, Kane Lambert, Sydney Stack

In: —

Out: Brandon Ellis, Dan Butler

We say: It’s an embarrassment of riches for the 2019 premiers. Not only will they welcome back five-time All-Australian fullback in Alex Rance, but have the benefit of Marlion Pickett with a full AFL pre-season under his belt. They lose Brandon Ellis (Gold Coast) and Dan Butler (St Kilda), but the depth of Richmond’s squad means those two departures will barely be felt. Here are just some of the kids waiting in the wings: Liam Baker, Patrick Naish, Jack Ross, Mabior Chol, Noah Balta and Callum Coleman-Jones. Plus Jack Higgins (brain bleed) will likely make his return at some stage during the season.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-2019-port-adelaide-best-22-richmond-best-22-st-kilda-best-22-trade-period-your-clubs-best-22/news-story/a594494699fdafafd4ec7b87ddfb6ae2

[Dont Argue]

Nankervis being written off by all and sundry.
Bit premature IMHO

[Tiger Khosh]

Nank in for short with Stack taking his place in defence. Otherwise I agree with fox sports.

Would love to find a spot for baker too but not sure whose spot he would take.

[pmac21]

Really hard to drop any player listed below and the question is do we need to integrate some new faces into the side? My only changes were Shorty out for Naish, Nank in for Soldo.  Naish's kicking is just that good I think he should be playing
Bloody hell, that is a tough side to break into...

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury

HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Marlion Pickett

C: Kane Lambert Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy

HF: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Shane Edwards

F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna

Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

I/C: Nathan Broad, Jack Graham, Patrick Naish, Sydney Stack

[big tone]

Really hard to drop any player listed below and the question is do we need to integrate some new faces into the side? My only changes were Shorty out for Naish, Nank in for Soldo.  Naish's kicking is just that good I think he should be playing
Bloody hell, that is a tough side to break into...

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury

HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Marlion Pickett

C: Kane Lambert Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy

HF: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Shane Edwards

F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna

Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

I/C: Nathan Broad, Jack Graham, Patrick Naish, Sydney Stack

So Short out for Naish because he is such a good kick?? Well that makes sense

[Rampsation]

Grimes Astbury Broad
Houli Rance Vlastuin
Lambert Prestia Caddy
Bolton Lynch Edwards
Rioli Riewoldt Stack
Nankervis Martin Cotchin
Pickett Soldo Graham Short

[Diocletian]

Grimes Astbury Balta
Houli Rance Vlastuin
Lambert Prestia Caddy
Bolton Lynch Edwards
Rioli Riewoldt Stack
Nankervis* Martin Cotchin
Pickett Chol Graham Castagna

* or Soldo - don't care, just not both

[Tiger Khosh]

Grimes Astbury Stack
Houli Rance Vlastuin
Lambert Martin Caddy
Bolton Lynch Edwards
Rioli Riewoldt Castagna
Nankervis Cotchin Prestia
Pickett Soldo Graham Broad

[pmac21]

Really hard to drop any player listed below and the question is do we need to integrate some new faces into the side? My only changes were Shorty out for Naish, Nank in for Soldo.  Naish's kicking is just that good I think he should be playing
Bloody hell, that is a tough side to break into...

B: Dylan Grimes, Alex Rance, David Astbury

HB: Bachar Houli, Nick Vlastuin, Marlion Pickett

C: Kane Lambert Dion Prestia, Josh Caddy

HF: Shai Bolton, Tom Lynch, Shane Edwards

F: Daniel Rioli, Jack Riewoldt, Jason Castagna

Foll: Toby Nankervis, Dustin Martin, Trent Cotchin

I/C: Nathan Broad, Jack Graham, Patrick Naish, Sydney Stack

So Short out for Naish because he is such a good kick?? Well that makes sense

Shorty is a good long kick but Naish is a better kick, much better.  As I said, anyone out of that side is stiff but for someone to go in someone has to go out. 

[Diocletian]

Would play Eggs before Naish....

[WilliamPowell]

 At this stage Naish is nowhere near our best 22

Under extreme AFL pressure his disposal and decision making is not where it needs to be

[the claw]

Im all for continued evolution so this will really pee some posters off.

Pickett - I think is here to stay i like him as a h/b but he has shown he can also play midfield. At h/b he is miles in front of Baker and Short.
Would plonk him on a wing atm.

Balta - played 13 games this yr and does anyone really think the club wont be aiming for more next yr. He is the heir apparent to Rance and he could well play chb next yr allowing Rance to play third fiddle.

Rance - well hes like a new recruit not having him all yr. I actually think Rance is going to force Broad out and play third tall.

Stack - no doubt could play thru the midfield but imo he is the heir apparent for Houli. Id have no problems replacing Houli with Stack and boy is that going to bring on a heap of abuse. But as it stands i think stack will play midfield next yr and Houli will see out his final yr and deservedly so.

Ross - if not for injury was galloping along quite nicely. Reckon atm he could play on a wing for us, he could just as easily play inside and out. Id play him there instead of Caddy.

CC-J -  brings a real point of difference to Nankervis and Soldo. Id be looking to play CC-J as second ruck and he can offer a REAL option fwd.
He may not be ready but in yr three he will be close surely.

Chol - similar to CC-J but he doesnt ruck as well as Callum. both are not slow like soldo and Nank and i agree with others thinking we should only play one of the latter two.

Graham - will play if fit i think thats a given.

RC-D - Hoping he can take some big strides and get games next yr. If he does take it up to the level can see them getting games into the bigger bodied mids.

Outs for me
Broad, in Rance. an upgrade
Baker, in Ross, a needed bigger mid at a similar level with more upside.
Ellis, in Pickett,  hallelujah.
Short, in Stack, No doubt Stack is a huge upgrade on Short especially hardness and defense.
Nankervis or Soldo in CC-J/Chol. think its a definate fwd option upgrade
Rioli, in Graham. Graham clearly offers more thru the middle and Riolis role is taken up by a myriad of mids who can play fwd.
this is the controversial one but with players like Pickett, Bolton, Lambert, Stack, Graham, Caddy, Martin who can all play thru the midfield as well as play fwd is there a need for a player like Rioli who is a specialist fwd  so far,  people will argue it but its my opinion he has not shown an ability to play regularly  midfield is not a huge goal kicker and is often poor in games. Really is time for him to improve and actually round his game out.


Grimes - Astbury - Vlastuin
Houli - Rance - Broad/Balta/Stack

Bolton - Cotchin - Pickett
Soldo - Prestia  - Ross

Edwards - Riewoldt - Lambert
Castagna - Lynch - Martin

Stack - Caddy - Graham - CC-J/Chol.

It may not happen but im hoping for some change next yr to stay in front of the pack and to improve i think it needs to happen but to what degree well that is the $100 question.

[Diocletian]

At this stage Naish is nowhere near our best 22

Under extreme AFL pressure his disposal and decision making is not where it needs to be

At this stage, the main reason we should even keep him on the list is so his brother Charlie nominates us in a few years...

[wayne]

Ellis, in Pickett,  hallelujah.

Apart from the first half of the prelim, Ellis was so, so bad in the finals series.

Pickett, Stack, Ross, Graham will all be huge upgrades.