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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #225 on: September 04, 2020, 11:18:51 PM »
Tom Browne just said the AFLPA is arcing up over the Club wanting the players to pay 75k of the fine as the penalty is for the Club not the players. The players should not be fined more than 10k.   

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #226 on: September 04, 2020, 11:43:20 PM »
Oh by the way was getting punched in the face whilst sitting on a bench fair and just part of the punishment. I have heard any of our media football paparazzi mention anything about justice for a punch in the face. Maybe the Queensland police have different rules?

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Richmond boss Brendon Gale 'deeply ashamed' (News)
« Reply #227 on: September 05, 2020, 03:41:01 AM »
RICHMOND BOSS ‘DEEPLY ASHAMED’

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News.com.au
5 September 2020


Richmond has revealed it knew Stack and Coleman-Jones were drinking on Thursday night before they took flight from the club’s Gold Coast isolation hub.

The Tigers said in a statement the two players had been drinking alcohol at a club and AFL-sanctioned event inside the hub before they continued drinking inside their rooms and eventually took off to the notorious nightspot.

Richmond CEO Brendon Gale appeared a broken man when he fronted the media on Friday night.

“Disbelief, anger, bewilderment, all those responses,” he said when asked how he feels about the breaches.

“The players knew the protocols, they’ve been drummed into players consistently, there’s been a number of high profile examples that reinforce the standards that are expected.

“That notwithstanding that they’d choose to act and breach the protocols, I think it’s fair to say probably anger and deep embarrassment to be honest.

“At the end of the day we can’t forget these are young men, young people make mistakes. These are very, very serious mistakes ... they’ll learn from it and we’ll need to put our arm around them and help them regain the trust and respect of our football club and the community.”

Herald Sun reporter Sam Landsberger posted on Twitter: “Tigers are deeply ashamed and embarrassed at this year’s incidents and Gale says these two have “disrespected” the AFL community and leadership”.

Gale said in an earlier statement he was incredibly disappointed.

“Richmond – like all Clubs — has a responsibility to the game, and the broader AFL community, to observe the COVID-19 protocols that the AFL has put in place. Clearly Callum and Sydney did not meet that responsibility this week, and we are incredibly disappointed,” Gale said.

“The club can’t ignore the fact that off-field we have got some things wrong in recent months. We need to own that as a club and get better. We all accept that this has been a difficult year, but it is no excuse for some of the mistakes we have made.

“These players made very poor decisions after consuming too much alcohol, choosing to leave the club’s hub in the early hours of Friday morning, and in doing so potentially putting themselves, their teammates and the AFL season at risk.

“Their decision to attend a venue while outside the hub was also completely unacceptable, and in no way aligns with what we stand for as a club. They have let down themselves, teammates, our members and supporters, our partners and the entire AFL industry.

“Yes, young people can make mistakes, but we expect better. There is absolutely no excuse for what took place. We do however recognise we need to support and educate them. They have learned a very hard lesson and we need to help them earn back the trust and respect of the club.

“Both players are extremely remorseful and apologise for their actions. That apology extends to the Queensland Government and Police who have far more significant matters to attend to in these difficult times.

“We are a strong, successful Club and we will work hard to deliver a club that meets community expectations and makes our members and supporters proud.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2020-sydney-stack-ban-after-tonedeaf-joke-footy-reacts-to-richmond-bans/news-story/ad39dd94a43f73a2ea81b88e2b946c7d

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Right whack: Tigers didn't have a leg to stand on (Age)
« Reply #228 on: September 05, 2020, 03:41:56 AM »
Right whack: Tigers didn't have a leg to stand on

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September 5, 2020


Whatever the level of inebriation of Sydney Stack and Callum Coleman-Jones at 3.30am outside the Hollywood Showgirls and a kebab shop on the Gold Coast, Richmond knew that neither club nor players had the proverbial leg to stand on.

The players were intoxicated, and had been inside a venue that they shouldn't be inside. Worse, they had been involved in a fracas sufficient to put Stack in police custody and for Coleman-Jones to be taken to hospital with what were called "minor facial injuries".

Consider, too, that the pair – imbued with the reckless spirit of youth plus whatever spirits or beer they'd consumed – had continued to drink after the club-sanctioned celebrations for the birthdays of Jack Ross and Ben Miller had ceased.

They caught an Uber to the Surfers' Paradise precinct, spending about 20 minutes in that Uber – time enough to reflect on the wisdom of their choice, had they been capable of cogent thought.

Uber rides are more automatic suspensions this year than a punch to the guts on the field.

Their misdemeanours were both an escalation of what had happened at other clubs – Collingwood's Steele Sidebottom (four games) having been the mid-season COVID clubhouse leader, only to be surpassed by Swan Elijah Taylor (six games in effect) – and an escalation of Richmond embarrassments, which their chief executive Brendon Gale acknowledged as "mistakes" that the Tigers had made over recent months.

The 10-week bans and $100,000 fines were exactly what one would have forecast (the same suspensions as Jaidyn Stephenson's gambling ban last year), given the nature of the offences and the political climate in recent days, when the AFL and Gillon McLachlan have been under attack for what were seen as special, unwarranted privileges in Queensland, even copping a sledge from the hitherto footy-friendly treasurer Josh Frydenberg.

McLachlan is feeling the pressure, in a parlous season held together by an astute shotgun partnership with the Queensland government. If the Tigers have fought the AFL on the issue of the soft cap cuts, they were not about to mount a strong defence of themselves or the offending players, given the stakes.

Richmond intend to make the players pay the $75,000 balance of the $100,000 fine, a condition that the players must agree to, given the code of conduct for players limits fines to $5000. In any case, they are blessed to have contracts and to avoid the sack. The Crows, incidentally, have an interest in Coleman-Jones, as a South Australian.

For the Tigers, the worst fallout of this fiasco is not the suspensions to Stack and Coleman-Jones, neither of whom was in Richmond's best 22 right now, despite Stack's talent.

Far more damaging is the fact that the Tigers have lost $100,000 from their soft cap on football department spending. As Gale virtually conceded, this could well mean shedding a job, or jobs within their football operation – unless they wish to cop a hefty tax.

But the damage to the club's reputation, and to the fragile concept of Richmond exceptionalism is surely more painful again. Gale clearly understood this, as he admitted that the club brand had been dented. "Their actions are inconsistent with what we stand for," he said.

Gale has built a mighty club. The Tigers remain every chance to win what would be their third flag in four seasons. They have turned into a serious money-maker, and have – to this point – much to be proud about. No team is better coached, none has recruited more adroitly without access to high picks.

But the notion that the Tigers are some kind of moral force within the community, over and above other clubs – as the club that succeeded with overlooked Indigenous talent such as Stack, that fostered better relations with the Muslim community via Bachar Houli and showed what a female president could achieve – is undermined by this lapse, which will be viewed as the culmination of a hubris outbreak in 2020.

Today, they look more like an old-fashioned football club – with the standard quotient of badly behaved players – than a paradigm of cultural progress.

Trent Cotchin and his wife's hub travails were hardly crimes, but they bespoke some level of entitlement. The antics of players around Mabior Chol were juvenile. And Damien Hardwick, in defending Tom Lynch – which is fair enough for a coach – was graceless in questioning the courage of a commentator (David Schwarz) who had endured three knee reconstructions and seen his father murdered as a child.

Richmond are a great footy club. Tiger fans have much to celebrate. But this escapade by hub escapees represents their nadir since the club's rise to superpower.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/right-whack-tigers-didn-t-have-a-leg-to-stand-on-20200904-p55slk.html

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Sydney Stack left 'shattered' by incident (News)
« Reply #229 on: September 05, 2020, 03:42:37 AM »
RICHMOND PLAYER SYDNEY STACK LEFT ‘SHATTERED’ BY INCIDENT

Tyson Otto
News.com.au
5 September 2020


Tigers star Stack is reportedly “shattered” about his stupid decision to break protocol.

It was revealed on Friday night Stack has been left “disconsolate” by the scandal.

Fox Footy’s Jon Ralph said on Friday night Stack’s manager Paul Peos is worried about Stack’s mental health heading into a long off-season isolated from teammates.

“He said his player is absolutely shattered. He is disconsolate,” Ralph said after speaking to Peos.

“He is very worried about his client’s mental health over the next few months.”

Stack is flying back to Melbourne on Saturday and has not yet been able to book a flight home to Western Australia.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-2020-sydney-stack-ban-after-tonedeaf-joke-footy-reacts-to-richmond-bans/news-story/ad39dd94a43f73a2ea81b88e2b946c7d

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #230 on: September 05, 2020, 04:50:49 AM »
These guys signed up to play football, now they are being used as political sacrifices. The AFL has put a lot of people in a no-win situation. This is unchartered territory for everyone and we are all learning on the run. What did everyone think would happen when you relocate young men with more spare time than normal and no outlets. Half these guys are training once a week and haven’t played a serious game of footy all season. They went out, had some beers. No crime committed, it’s an ‘AFL COVID’ breach... the club and AFL had better support these guys to the best of their ability because they’ve really been left out to hang.

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #231 on: September 05, 2020, 08:02:24 AM »
These guys signed up to play football, now they are being used as political sacrifices. The AFL has put a lot of people in a no-win situation. This is unchartered territory for everyone and we are all learning on the run. What did everyone think would happen when you relocate young men with more spare time than normal and no outlets. Half these guys are training once a week and haven’t played a serious game of footy all season. They went out, had some beers. No crime committed, it’s an ‘AFL COVID’ breach... the club and AFL had better support these guys to the best of their ability because they’ve really been left out to hang.
Without the hubs there would be no footy. They’re lucky to be playing at all and we are lucky to be able to watch it. The AFLPA signed off on this on behalf of their members. Therefore there is only two people to blame- the players themselves. Whilst I think the penalties are harsh, these lads made a very poor decision fuelled by alcohol. We need to own it.

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #232 on: September 05, 2020, 08:20:03 AM »
But is it as bad as arranging and playing a doubles tennis match with Alicia Molik?

I don’t think so.  :rollin

- Buckley & Sanderson - $25,000 fine.

- Stack & Coleman-Jones - $75000 fine and 10 games suspension - shame and ridicule - sent home- isolated from team - made examples of - people (even on here) want them sacked or traded.
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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #233 on: September 05, 2020, 09:00:36 AM »
ive changed my mind. The penalty doesnt fit the crime when you compare that against the dogs fella and sidebottom.

they should have got punished but i feel this is now an overkill and a vendetta against the club.





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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #234 on: September 05, 2020, 09:11:46 AM »
ive changed my mind. The penalty doesnt fit the crime when you compare that against the dogs fella and sidebottom.

they should have got punished but i feel this is now an overkill and a vendetta against the club.


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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #235 on: September 05, 2020, 09:13:48 AM »
Still of the same opinion as yesterday. We need to ensure player welfare have their fingers all over the two players to ensure they don't drop completely off the rails. The next few weeks will be vital for their future health and well being. They did do the wrong thing but the punishments are way over the top.
 

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #236 on: September 05, 2020, 09:48:59 AM »
Think what people are missing here is that this is the Club's 2nd breach, hence the $100k fine. The AFL protocols are very clear maximum $100k fine for a 2nd breach

The kid from the Swans who snuck his girlfriend into their hub in WA got suspended for the remainder of the season. Which for them was 6 weeks. It was one breach of the protocols

Our 2 players have committed multiple breaches and not just the COVID protocols. Catching an Uber, leave their hub, visting a non approved venue. Then there is the issue of police involvement which beaches the AFL code of conduct.

Couple all of this with it being our 2nd breach and the penalty were always going to be harsher. But make no mistake that the penalty could have been harsher. And I for one am glad they were not

They stuffed up and they're paying an massive penalty that isn't going to change.

Most important thing now is to support these 2 guys, our players, our Club and for the leaders to ensure this galvanises the team as we head to towards challenging for another flag. What a special premiership it will be if we do it  :gotigers



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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #237 on: September 05, 2020, 11:01:22 AM »
Think what people are missing here is that this is the Club's 2nd breach, hence the $100k fine. The AFL protocols are very clear maximum $100k fine for a 2nd breach

The kid from the Swans who snuck his girlfriend into their hub in WA got suspended for the remainder of the season. Which for them was 6 weeks. It was one breach of the protocols

Our 2 players have committed multiple breaches and not just the COVID protocols. Catching an Uber, leave their hub, visting a non approved venue. Then there is the issue of police involvement which beaches the AFL code of conduct.

Couple all of this with it being our 2nd breach and the penalty were always going to be harsher. But make no mistake that the penalty could have been harsher. And I for one am glad they were not

They stuffed up and they're paying an massive penalty that isn't going to change.

Most important thing now is to support these 2 guys, our players, our Club and for the leaders to ensure this galvanises the team as we head to towards challenging for another flag. What a special premiership it will be if we do it  :gotigers

 :clapping well said.

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #238 on: September 05, 2020, 11:57:48 AM »
Its time for Richmond people to support Richmond. In the end youre either with us or against us. AFL footy is like war.

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Re: Richmond is off to the Queensland hub on the Gold Coast
« Reply #239 on: September 05, 2020, 12:50:00 PM »
You also can't tell me that the players wouldn't have been sat down and reminded of their responsibilities both in respect to COVID protocols and the club generally before they were allowed to "take 5" during the bye period.