Major stuff up in Freo-Saints game

[Piping Shrike]

Here's the official rules - Page 34 of the link below:

10.4 BRINGING PLAY TO AN END

10.4.1 End of Quarter
The Timekeepers shall sound the siren to signal the end of a quarter until a field Umpire acknowledges that the siren has been heard and brings play to an end.

10.4.2 Siren Heard by Field Umpire
Play in each quarter shall come to an end when any one of the field Umpires hears the siren.

10.4.3 Signal
A field Umpire shall signal that he or she has heard the siren by blowing a whistle and holding both arms above his or her head. If immediately before hearing the siren, a field Umpire is of the opinion that a Player should be awarded a Free Kick or a Mark, the field Umpire shall signal that play has come to an end and then award the Free Kick or Mark to the Player.

http://afl.com.au/cp2/c2/webi/article/157506an.pdf

What if one umpire hears it and does his thing (as I understand that one did) but the others don't.

[mightytiges]

I've got another query about that finish:

How can the goal umpire get "all clear" for the first Baker point and then be asked to cancel that point for a new kick to be taken? Did a second umpire overule the "all clear" - if so that's a joke.

Could you imagine the uproar if Baker had kicked a goal?

No one knew what was going on. The flags were crossed by the goal-umpire so someone cancelled Baker's first shot.

What if one umpire hears it and does his thing (as I understand that one did) but the others don't.

The first rule says a umpire. So as long as one hears it then the game is over. Sounds like the one that did hear it bailed out overruling the others because he didn't want to take the responsibility.

[one-eyed]

Bell will toll
02 May 2006   Herald Sun
Mark Stevens

"YOU will be able to hear the siren back in Melbourne next time."

 That was the declaration yesterday from Aurora Stadium venue manager Robert Groenewegen, who has kick-started plans to massively boost the volume of the most controversial siren in league history.

Groenewegen confirmed the number of horns in the stands will increase from two to 12 in time for the ground's next AFL game on June 18 when Hawthorn and Richmond are scheduled to clash.

In effect, that is an increase of 600 per cent in potential volume power.

"It might be a bit of overkill, but it has to be done. It should be nice and loud," Groenewegen said.

The stadium, which has hosted AFL matches since 2001, will now boast two stacks of six horns on each wing.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/footy/common/story_page/0,8033,18993207%255E19742,00.html

[Moi]

In effect, that is an increase of 600 per cent in potential volume power.

Creates a new problem as 20,000 ppls suffer cardiac infaaaarction as they get the shock of their lives lol

[mightytiges]

In effect, that is an increase of 600 per cent in potential volume power.

Creates a new problem as 20,000 ppls suffer cardiac infaaaarction as they get the shock of their lives lol

LOL.

No one hears the final siren again because everyone has gone deaf from 1/4,1/2 and 3/4 time blasts lol.

[WilliamPowell]

In effect, that is an increase of 600 per cent in potential volume power.

Creates a new problem as 20,000 ppls suffer cardiac infaaaarction as they get the shock of their lives lol

LOL.

No one hears the final siren again because everyone has gone deaf from 1/4,1/2 and 3/4 time blasts lol.

If I go deaf or suffer cardiac problems I will sue!

[mightytiges]

News just in on ABC radio

The umpire involved in last Sunday's St Kilda/Freo game was hit and killed this morning by a firetruck.

Apparently he didn't hear the siren. .......    (Boom Tish)   

[Fluffy Tiger]

Well the Commission is meeting now , I just hope they do the "Right thing" and give the points to Fremantle.  There is no way the Saints would have scored that point if the Frematle guys weren't either jumping for joy or yelling at the umpire the Siren had gone. They would have been manned up.

Saints that say otherwise have no conscience.

[WilliamPowell]

I actually believe that the result should stand. I was always taught the game aint over until the umpire says time.

The Freo players should have continued playing rather than celebrating a game that under the laws of the game hadn't finished.

A horrible precedent will be set if the result is changed.

Imagine the out cry if Freo get the extra 2 points now and say the Tigers miss the finals by 2 points because this result has been changed

[Fluffy Tiger]

I actually believe that the result should stand. I was always taught the game aint over until the umpire says time.

The Freo players should have continued playing rather than celebrating a game that under the laws of the game hadn't finished.

A horrible precedent will be set if the result is changed.

Imagine the out cry if Freo get the extra 2 points now and say the Tigers miss the finals by 2 points because this result has been changed

With this one we will have to agree to disagree. Even though we all know the rule that the Umpire signals the end of the game, the fact is we all know this happrens within a second of the siren going off. We only ever listen for the siren not for the umpires wistle.

As far as the change in two points goes, well there is so many ways that can be looked at. Many of which are as unlikey as the example you gave. eg. What happens if the result stands and we miss the finals by two points becasue the Saints get them ? I would be peeed then (rather see freo than the saints there )

[PuntRdRoar]

I think we should get the points at Richmond...why should we have to read all this poo about Freo & St K. Richmond should get the points as compo lol.

[WilliamPowell]

I think we should get the points at Richmond...why should we have to read all this pooh about Freo & St K. Richmond should get the points as compo lol.

Perhaps they could take the points off the Pies - that'd make everyone happy I reckon

[mightytiges]

We should thank the Umps at the Freo-Saints game for taking away any media heat the Bombers would have copped after 4 straight losses.

I don't see the AFL changing the result even though it's unfair. It's not like they're going to admit they caused this farce.

[Tiger Spirit]

The result should stand.

[one-eyed]

 Freo wins
Herald-Sun
03may06

THE AFL Commisssion has ruled Sunday's match against St Kilda at Launceston ended when the siren sounded. It means the Dockers get the four points for the match.

The commission has ordered that all sound systems at AFL venues be investigate to ensure they are loud enought.

http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,19013768%255E661,00.html