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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #420 on: October 22, 2021, 07:16:53 PM »
That's a much better haul IMO. I like the sound of Hobbs more than Ward but otherwise very solid picks. Hope it turns out that way.

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #421 on: October 22, 2021, 07:51:41 PM »
Prefer Ward to Hobbs...would be a good result to get him at 9 though don't like that both pure mids taken in that scenario are only around the 180cm mark...like Butler but not that early especially if Van Rooyen & Sonsie  are still on the board.. and Clarke before Williams, Chesser or Alleer would be rather underwhelming to say the least and wouldn't make much sense after already getting Butler... :-\
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #422 on: October 22, 2021, 08:00:29 PM »
I agree, swap for Jvr and Chesser and we have killed it

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #423 on: October 23, 2021, 08:02:12 AM »
AFL Draft Whispers: Rival clubs eyeing big trade plays as interest in young gun mid grows

A bidding war at the top of this year’s AFL draft order looms, with multiple clubs vying to get their hands on a prized pick so they can snap up a gun midfielder that’s drawn comparisons to Bulldogs superstar Marcus Bontempelli.

Foxfooty.com.au understands a handful of clubs with top picks are mightily interested in Sandringham Dragons on-baller Finn Callaghan, who now appears central to how the early stage of November’s national draft will pan out.

Rival clubs believe the Giants would be open to trading Pick 2 and prepared to strike a deal with a team that presents the best offer, but only if it meant the Giants could still secure their preferred prospect. It’s understood the Giants are seeking a key-position player – rather than a midfielder – at their first draft selection, with Dandenong Stingrays star Mac Andrew widely viewed as their top priority.

Foxfooty.com.au understands both the Suns and Crows have already made inquiries about trading up to Pick 2.

Whether any selection exchanges involving the second pick would be officially lodged prior to November 15 – the pre-draft cut-off date for pick swaps – or on draft night itself when trading reopens remains unclear.

Should Gold Coast wish to move up a spot in the draft order, it could have to dip into its stacked future-pick bag, which includes a future first, three future seconds and two future thirds. Hawthorn (Picks 5, 21 and 24) and Adelaide (Picks 4 and 33) hold selections in the first and second round of both the 2021 and 2022 drafts.

Yet the Dockers appear better placed than any club to trade with the Giants as they’re one of four clubs that hold two first-round picks. And unlike the Giants (Picks 2 and 13), Richmond (7 and 15) and Brisbane (14 and 18), Fremantle’s two early selections (6 and 8) sit inside the top 10.

Richmond, which holds Pick 7, has interest in GWV Rebels insider midfielder Ben Hobbs, who’s been touted as a possible on-ball replacement for Trent Cotchin when he retires. But the Tigers could also consider versatile utility Andrew, particularly after losing Callum Coleman-Jones (North Melbourne) and Mabior Chol (Gold Coast) during the trade period.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/draft/afl-draft-2021-finn-callaghan-attracts-interest-from-multiple-clubs-gws-giants-trade-picks-fremantle-hawthorn/news-story/369e2fcd82ae80033f92f41910593fde

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #424 on: October 23, 2021, 08:07:54 AM »
Q: Could Ben Hobbs slide?

Twomey: Inside top 10. Ball magnet. Ready to go mid. Leadership is top end. Suns, Adel, Haw & Rich would be interested. Can't see him sliding unless you consider pick 7 a slide. Richmond are there and keen on him.

https://www.afl.com.au/video/685408/could-this-ball-magnet-slide-all-your-draft-questions-answered

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #425 on: October 23, 2021, 06:31:49 PM »
HUN reporting thar a "top draft prospect" has been diagnosed with covid but hasn't named the player so far..... :shh
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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #426 on: October 23, 2021, 06:35:34 PM »

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #427 on: October 23, 2021, 06:55:37 PM »
Richmond, too, has looked at moving up the board from pick No.7, with the Tigers' future first-round pick likely to need to be included for the Giants to shift back.

Clubs are chasing the player as much as the pick, with Sandringham Dragons midfielder Finn Callaghan's run, carry, size, athleticism and striking left-foot kicking viewed as the reason for the possible push up the list. 

But will the Giants take the gamble or just hold their spot? There is little point in the club making that call until closer to the draft next month – or even once names begin to be called on November 24 – when the order of selections is clearer.

There looks to be four options in the mix for their pick: Callaghan, Josh Rachele, Josh Gibcus and Mac Andrew.

The Giants are stacked with midfielders, but are a club that has to approach their recruiting strategy differently to others, often using the draft to do their list management.

Pick swapping between clubs is open until Monday, November 15 before a blackout period stops clubs from wheeling and dealing until the night of the draft the following Wednesday.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/685526/what-will-giants-do-with-the-new-pick-no1

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #428 on: October 24, 2021, 05:53:35 PM »
AFL clubs look at Bazzo now as a defender with significant upside, with his coaches this year grateful for his willingness to always play whatever role the team needs.

A smooth mover who can roll off his opponent to intercept mark, he can sometimes look laconic but has developed a reputation as an authoritative big-game player who can also lock down on an opponent.

Melbourne premiership star Jake Lever, Greater Western Sydney defender Sam Taylor and West Coast's Tom Barrass are three players Bazzo has tried to model his game on, while Hawthorn defender Denver Grainger-Barras has helped him develop.

https://www.afl.com.au/news/685533/doing-it-for-dad-family-tragedy-fuels-bazzo-s-afl-ambitions

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #429 on: October 24, 2021, 05:54:36 PM »

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #430 on: October 24, 2021, 06:19:26 PM »
Jay Clarke's done a phantom.  Can someone post who he had us taking please?

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #431 on: October 24, 2021, 06:25:28 PM »
October Rankings, lots of vision still to go back on but getting a great sense for the whole draft pool and still plenty of quality into the 40s. 15-30 range very close.



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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #432 on: October 24, 2021, 11:48:00 PM »
Jay Clarke's done a phantom.  Can someone post who he had us taking please?
It's from 11-20. He has Goater going to us at our pick 17.

Jay Clark’s phantom draft: How picks 11-20 could fall

Jay Clark
HeraldSun
25 October 2021


The teens are an intriguing spot in this year’s AFL Draft. From boom-or-bust prospects to the potential sliders, clubs see it differently. Here’s how it could all play out.

11. St Kilda: Neil Erasmus (Subiaco)
188cm midfielder
The player: If this tall midfielder from Subiaco slips past Fremantle’s two picks, then the Saints won’t be able to call out his name quick enough. There is some Nat Fyfe in the way he can take a mark in the forward half and have a big impact through the middle with his size and clean hands. Initially shone as a forward but became a big-time ballwinner in the midfield this year. Reliable and hard-working.

The pick: Could easily see the Dockers snaring Erasmus as the local star midfield talent and Adam Cerra replacement. But he would tick all the boxes for the Saints who need some quality and size in a middle-of-the-road engine room. St Kilda has a lot riding on this year’s draft and Erasmus would be a dream addition for a club which is in the midst of a reset after loading up on mature-age talent in recent trade periods.

12. West Coast: Matthew Johnson (Subiaco)
192cm midfielder
The player: Another tall midfielder who has drawn comparisons to Collingwood champion Scott Pendlebury for his silkiness, evasiveness and class disposal. He is one of those players who seems to have time with the ball in hand and finds room in tight spaces. Johnson’s sidestep and fend-off are two of the weapons in a considerable trick bag. But while there is enormous upside, there has also been questions about consistency and intensity. Recruiters have challenged him on his tackling but he had nine of them in the curtain-raiser game on Grand Final day to answer the call.

The pick: Hard to know whether West Coast is a top-four or bottom-four team in 2022, given their form over the past two years. But the club knew in the trade period it had to keep its picks for this year’s draft to re-invest in some top young talent to help replenish an ageing squad. Ex-Blue Sam Petrevski-Seton, a former pick six, was basically a free hit in exchange for pick 52. Johnson is a high-end midfield talent who was best-on in the Grand Final day curtain-raiser, but not everyone is completely sold. Intriguing pick.

13. Essendon: Nasiah Wanganeen-Milera (Glenelg)
187cm midfielder
The player: A weapon on the wing or pushing deeper forward, Wanganeen-Milera breaks the lines with his run and carry and is elite by foot. Simply, forwards’ eyes light up when the nephew of Essendon and Port Adelaide great Gavin Wanganeen is delivering the ball their way. It is why Wanganeen Milera is one of the most damaging outside midfielders available and could help finish off a midfield which already has some grunt power.

The pick: Essendon is in the market to go up the order in this year’s draft and has spoken with clubs about potential swap deals. They could be open to moving on a future second-round selection to help march up the order next month. The Bombers have an exciting young list and while Bobby Hill unsuccessfully tried to make his way to Tullamarine, they are clearly in the market for a speedy forward. Irving Mosquito also departed. Wanganeen-Milera is more of a midfielder but would be an exciting addition nonetheless.

14. Port Adelaide: Arlo Draper (South Adelaide)
185cm midfielder/forward
The player: Arlo Draper is a classy and versatile playmaker who can add to the riches of young talent at the Power. Port’s recruiters deserve recognition for helping keep the club’s premiership window open with some recent hits and Draper is a classy ball user who can do some special things in the forward half, hitting difficult targets or impacting inside 50m. He’s a confident mark overhead which means he can play in different spots. The South Australian hurt his shoulder late in the year but it won’t be an ongoing concern.

The pick: The Power are in a decent position here as they look closely at several local talents including Wanganeen-Milera, Draper and Matthew Roberts. Port looks well-stocked for key forward targets with Mitch Georgiades, Todd Marshall and now Jeremy Finalyson, so there’s scope to target a versatile midfield type.

15. GWS: Tyler Sonsie (Eastern Ranges)
181cm midfielder
The player: Speedy midfielder likes to blow past his opponents and hit the scoreboard. He is classy on both sides of his body, clean by hand and can zip through bunches of players in the same manner as his one of his idols, Richmond premiership hero Trent Cotchin. He is likely to be a bigger threat on the outside earlier in his career and certainly has the versatility to be a dangerous player in the forward half. Was impressive for Box Hill in the VFL with 24 disposals and two goals. Has some elite traits with the ball.

The pick: GWS is in a strong position to manipulate the draft order to their advantage with picks two and this one. They would love ruckman Mac Andrew to fall this far and would snap him up here in a heartbeat if he happened to slide. With Bobby Hill potentially set to request a trade in 12 months’ time, Sonsie would be another nice addition if they’ve already taken Andrew or Finn Callaghan.

16. Brisbane: Jacob Van Rooyen (Claremont)
194cm key defender/forward
The player: The versatile key position prospect has been likened to Essendon’s Michael Hurley for his ability to impact at both ends. Started in defence and kicked the matchwinning goal in the dying seconds for Western Australia against South Australia. In a draft which features a lot of midfield types, Van Rooyen is one of the top talls available. Overcame a bout of glandular fever but already has a strong frame and can work his opponents over.

The pick: The Lions could add to their key position stocks here and Van Rooyen has a future in the AFL at both ends. The Lions’ recruiters have done a fine job in recent years snaring, among others, Zac Bailey at pick 15 in 2017, and will like their options with two picks inside 20. Expect one of them to target a tall.

17. Richmond: Josh Goater (Calder Cannons)
190cm midfielder/defender
The player: Quick and powerful midfielder has considerable x-factor and will be one of the most interesting selections of the draft. At 190cm, the big-bodied midfielder can explode out of the stoppage and use his leap to advantage anywhere around the ground. While he is still considered a raw prospect, recruiters believe he could pop up inside the first 10 picks considering the explosiveness and potential growth in his game. Could use him across half back for his burst and be a game breaker across wing or half forward.

The pick: This is Richmond’s strongest draft hand in a decade and if the Tigers nail the picks, it can really help re-charge the Tigers’ premiership prospects after a golden run. With multiple picks, they can take some risks and scouts think Goater is one of the biggest boom or bust prospects of this year’s pool. If they nabbed Rachelle and Goater with their first two picks, Tigers fans should get excited.

18. Sydney: Josh Sinn (Sandringham)
186cm defender-midfielder
The player: Speedy half back is renowned for having one of the most deadly left-foot kicks in this year’s crop. His ability to turn defence into attack on the burst makes him one of the most eye-catching players in the first round, but the Sandringham product suffered a hamstring injury and has slid down clubs’ draft boards a little this year. Takes the game on in an aggressive manner and will be a huge asset with his flair on the counter-attack.

The pick: Sydney would ideally love a top key position prospect to help bolster the club’s defensive stocks but maybe they have something up their sleeves in the free agency market. Logan McDonald is an exciting key forward and Tom McCartin has blossomed into an All-Australian contender but depth in this area is a query. With Jordan Dawson gone, Sinn has some appeal here.

19. Melbourne: Matthew Roberts (South Adelaide)
183cm midfielder/forward
The player: This ready-to-go midfielder has the kind of competitive edge the Demons built their premiership on. The hard-working left-footer with a penetrating kick and strong overhead mark has the versatility to play midfield-forward and looked comfortable this year playing SANFL seniors for South Adelaide. Looks like he could become a leader for his side and can be counted on whether he is winning a hard ball or on the end of a kick to the forward line.

The pick: The Demons’ midfield is already stacked so the club could go any way it wants to at this pick, but the reliable Roberts would be hard to pass up at this mark. The Demons have a well-balanced squad and after shooting the lights out with Luke Jackson, Kysaiah Pickett and Bayley Fritsch, among many others, Roberts might just be the best talent available here. Jason Taylor has arguably the best recruiting record in the game and, after signing a four-year contract extension with the Demons, the club will be thrilled he remains in charge of the draft analysis.

20. Brisbane: Campbell Chesser (Sandringham Dragons)
186cm defender/midfielder

The player: Former track star has a big motor and uses it to break the lines at either half back or on a the wing. The classy ball user is a link-up specialist and was All-Australian at under-16 level before a knee issue caused him some headaches at Sandringham. Can zigzag around his opponents if given licence to run and has impressed in club interviews. Briefly considered a future in athletics.

The pick: The Lions could do with an extra dose of pace and that is what Chesser would bring. There is a question mark over some of the Victorian prospects given how interrupted the past two seasons have been with COVID-19 restrictions but Chesser has been on recruiters’ radars for years. Impressive individual.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/afl-draft-2021-jay-clark-looks-at-how-the-cards-may-fall-in-next-months-afl-national-draft/news-story/a348a3c9e3e0b0a0f4874108d1c7f354

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #433 on: October 25, 2021, 07:14:56 AM »
Check out these responses from some of the 2021 #NABLeagueBoys when answering

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Re: 2021 Draft thread
« Reply #434 on: October 25, 2021, 07:56:27 AM »
Cut and paste some cliches together even if they don’t make sense, yep, perfect footballers
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