Rhyan Mansell cops 3 weeks from the Tribunal [updated]

[Andyy]

I don't understand the criticism.

We were all for suspension when it happened to Lalor.

If this is the new norm that's a good thing.

Irrelevant that it happened to one of our guys first.

[mightytiges]

I don't understand the criticism.

We were all for suspension when it happened to Lalor.

If this is the new norm that's a good thing.

Irrelevant that it happened to one of our guys first.

It's the inconsistency and the AFL always making ad hoc reactive decisions that ticks us off. This issue should have been dealt with when Lalor had his jaw broken but the MRP and the AFL honchos washed their hands of it which has led the game to this point. Now a Richmond player is the instigator, and they want to throw the book at him. Why didn't they act and dish out suspensions with any of the previous 3 incidents? 

[Andyy]

I don't understand the criticism.

We were all for suspension when it happened to Lalor.

If this is the new norm that's a good thing.

Irrelevant that it happened to one of our guys first.

It's the inconsistency and the AFL always making ad hoc reactive decisions that ticks us off. This issue should have been dealt with when Lalor had his jaw broken but the MRP and the AFL honchos washed their hands of it which has led the game to this point. Now a Richmond player is the instigator, and they want to throw the book at him. Why didn't they act and dish out suspensions with any of the previous 3 incidents? 

I don't agree.

IIRC the Lalor incident was the first this year. Following a few more incidents the AFL decided to act.

Just so happens that Mansell is the first to be booked for it.

What's the inconsistency you're alluding to? They introduced a new rule around these actions and have acted accordingly. Inconsistency will only be proven if other incidents occur and they choose not to suspend players.

We can all agree they should have acted a week or two sooner but at least they did.


Has nothing to do with our club IMHO.

[camboon]

What  can we expect when unelected  solicitors  and want to be politicians make decisions based on media outcry. None of these unelected seem to have the genuine experience to understand the consequences of  these ad hoc decision as usual another initial decision that targets Richmond.
If you compete for the ball and a player falls into the path of an on coming player is that reportable , show me the definition in the rule book?
If you look at the incident the push didn’t show the opposition player deviant in their attack on the ball. Have a look and make your own decision.


 

[eliminator]

Exactly what Steve Johnson said was going to happen on triple m. As Johnson said he was going to get 3 weeks because he is Mansell and not the Bont.

[Simonator]

I don't understand the criticism.

We were all for suspension when it happened to Lalor.

If this is the new norm that's a good thing.

Irrelevant that it happened to one of our guys first.

It's the inconsistency and the AFL always making ad hoc reactive decisions that ticks us off. This issue should have been dealt with when Lalor had his jaw broken but the MRP and the AFL honchos washed their hands of it which has led the game to this point. Now a Richmond player is the instigator, and they want to throw the book at him. Why didn't they act and dish out suspensions with any of the previous 3 incidents? 

I don't agree.

IIRC the Lalor incident was the first this year. Following a few more incidents the AFL decided to act.

Just so happens that Mansell is the first to be booked for it.

What's the inconsistency you're alluding to? They introduced a new rule around these actions and have acted accordingly. Inconsistency will only be proven if other incidents occur and they choose not to suspend players.

We can all agree they should have acted a week or two sooner but at least they did.


Has nothing to do with our club IMHO.

It’s the fact they said there was no case to answer in Lalors incident, the kid got a broken jaw. The media showed a little backlash and all of a sudden the afl crack down on it. How about crack down on it when a kid gets concussion and a broken jaw ? It’s just so pee weak.

It’s better late than never but to then be the first club to cop a suspension from it is just a hard pill to swallow for obvious reasons. Btw, did they actually ‘introduce a new rule’ or did they just start interpreting things differently ? The lack of clarity is confusing. I know they publicly said something about it a few weeks ago but still, it’s all smoke and mirrors as always.

[wayne]

The Saint player was trying to mark the ball. The push wasn't dangerous.

[mightytiges]

I don't understand the criticism.

We were all for suspension when it happened to Lalor.

If this is the new norm that's a good thing.

Irrelevant that it happened to one of our guys first.

It's the inconsistency and the AFL always making ad hoc reactive decisions that ticks us off. This issue should have been dealt with when Lalor had his jaw broken but the MRP and the AFL honchos washed their hands of it which has led the game to this point. Now a Richmond player is the instigator, and they want to throw the book at him. Why didn't they act and dish out suspensions with any of the previous 3 incidents? 

I don't agree.

IIRC the Lalor incident was the first this year. Following a few more incidents the AFL decided to act.

Just so happens that Mansell is the first to be booked for it.

What's the inconsistency you're alluding to? They introduced a new rule around these actions and have acted accordingly. Inconsistency will only be proven if other incidents occur and they choose not to suspend players.

We can all agree they should have acted a week or two sooner but at least they did.


Has nothing to do with our club IMHO.

Yes the Ginbey/Lalor incident was the first this year, but this has been an issue for a number of years. It's not as though the Ginbey/Lalor incident was something new. Soldo did his ACL thanks to Hawkins pushing a player into Ivan to try and stop him taking a mark. Given Ginbey's was the most blatant of all of the incidents (I would argue it was intentional) and the seriousness of Lalor's head injury, the AFL could and should have punished Ginbey to send a clear message. But no, it was nothing to see here, and they repeated the washing of hands a further two times. So, we have a situation now of the AFL's own making due to their failure to act when they should have, where Mansell is getting 3 weeks for an act that three other players in only the past month have been let off for. As I said, the issue isn't Mansell's suspension; it's the ad hoc reactiveness and inconsistency of the AFL's decision making that ticks people off.

[Wazza]

Lol.
I called it back in feb when it happened to Lalor and said Richmond would be the first to cop it for this penalty. It always feels as though Richmond cope the harshest penalties initially and the rest of the comp get off a little lighter. Interesting to see who is penalised next....if anyone is penalised.
Understand wanting to stomp this out. Serious injuries have and can occur from this action.

[Buddysucks]

There goes his chances at the Brownlow

[WilliamPowell]

It’s the fact they said there was no case to answer in Lalors incident, the kid got a broken jaw. The media showed a little backlash and all of a sudden the afl crack down on it. How about crack down on it when a kid gets concussion and a broken jaw ? It’s just so pee weak.

It’s better late than never but to then be the first club to cop a suspension from it is just a hard pill to swallow for obvious reasons. Btw, did they actually ‘introduce a new rule’ or did they just start interpreting things differently ? The lack of clarity is confusing. I know they publicly said something about it a few weeks ago but still, it’s all smoke and mirrors as always.

There is no "new rule" as such. After the pre-seaon and the 3 incidents the AFL said that the MRO under the rules could sanction players under rough conduct. They never explained why he hadn't in the past. They said that they had sent a memo to all Clubs saying that for the H&A season there would be focus on players pushing other players into contest.

Should Ginbey have been cited? Absolutely!

Have other incidents been looked at in the H&A season so far? Who knows,  crickets from HQ every week so far

The fact it's taken until the 4th week for them to actually charge someone sums up the hypocrisy of the AFL

Having said that I agree with Andyy, we were all crying out for players to be held to account for these types of act after what happened to Lalor.  It is a disgrace that it's taken until now for them to do it.

But taking off my RFC coloured glasses for second, I have no issue with him being cited, penalty is incredibly harsh but they have to stamp this sort thing out. It is dangerous.  I'd go as far as to say it worse than the bump that landed big Tom a weeks suspension

Won't be surprised I'd the Club appeals out of principle but can't see him getting off

[torch]

Understand all sides. Richmond should cause the AFL headaches and just go hard and repeatedly show the Ginbley-Lalor incident until the cows come home and force the AFL to drag this out for as long as possible.

I would be so dirty if I was Richmond and Lalor. Just makes Eagles match pure revenge and Ginbley public enemy No.1

[Tiger Khosh]

You can’t just decide after the seasons already started to change an incident from ‘nothing to see here’ to 3 week suspension. Would be different if it was a 1 week suspensions but they’ve gone from 0 when lalor had it done to him to 3 weeks when mansell does it.

[one-eyed]

There's immense frustration at Punt Road tonight after Tiger forward Rhyan Mansell was offered a three match ban for a push. #9News @tommorris32

VIDEO: https://x.com/9NewsMelb/status/1906282152720834955

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"I think if that Ginbey one happened now, he would still get off." - Tom Morris
"No way." - Hird and Bartel.

The panel couldn't see eye-to-eye as they discussed Rhyan Mansell's 'landmark case' following his three-game ban.

#9FootyFurnace | Watch on Nine & 9Now 🖥️

VIDEO: https://x.com/FootyonNine/status/1901236301170409927

[JP Tiger]

Since the Lalor/Ginbey incident the media have flown into a frenzy!  In responce the AFL have decided to suspend players who push opponents into collisions ... providing that they are Richmond players doing the pushing ... 
Can't wait for Weitering to get rubbed out for pushing Lynch into a collision ... no ... wait!