Author Topic: Bolton & D.Rioli in nightclub incident  (Read 15879 times)

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Dyl and friends podcast is my go to. Alex Rance is the latest guest!

I can’t do 360 and footy classified. They take themselves waaaay too seriously like they’re tenured professors and give zero Fs about actual facts and truths and are willing to speculate with zero disregard for player and coach welfare.

Dyl and friends at least we get to hear from players with significantly less filters.

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But how did Bolton actually break his wrist?

“By taking appropriate steps to deal with what was deemed to be inappropriate behaviour,” Gale offered.

Asked if he had fallen awkwardly after being pushed, Gale responded succinctly.

“I’m not 100% sure of that,” he added.

Source: SEN

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Brendon Gale defended the club’s reputation on Tuesday.

“We’ve got a pretty strong culture here based on care and connection and looking after each other,” he said.

“We’d prefer they (Bolton and Rioli) didn’t (intervene in an altercation), but that’s sometimes easier said than done.

“That required responding to conduct which they thought was absolutely inappropriate.

“They took the steps to address that.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-legends-dismiss-garbage-richmond-whispers-after-nightclub-fight/news-story/6964a9c024681714f60675d9e2d4b4ba

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Trouble in Tigerland

The incident is another unwanted addition to the Tigers’ reputation of being a club with cultural issues following a turbulent COVID-19-plagued 2020 AFL season inside the Queensland bubble.

The conversation surrounding the club has quickly whipped up into a frenzy as debate rages about whether the club is falling from its place as the premier club in Australian football on the back of three premierships in the past four years and record memberships.

According to football journalist Damian Barrett there have been whispers across the league that rival clubs have been “rolling their eyes” at Richmond’s recent off-field scandals, including captain Trent Cotchin’s wife Brooke’s day spa quarantine breach and the ugly Gold Coast strip club brawl involving Sydney Stack and Callum Coleman-Jones, which resulted in 10-game bans for both players.

With those incidents added together and combined with the club’s slow start to the year at 4-4, commentators are questioning if we’re seeing the beginning of the end of the club’s era of dominance.

“There was a strong feeling from other footy clubs and from people around the AFL who were just rolling their eyes, saying ‘here we go again with Richmond’,” Barrett said of the club’s troubled 2020 campaign.

“Unfortunately, for those people who had those views of Richmond, the behaviours were almost validated in galvanising themselves on the back of everything that went wrong for them last year all the way to winning a third premiership in four seasons.

“That was the reaction at the time … yet again it’s Richmond.”

https://www.afl.com.au/news/612010/listen-tigers-nightclub-brawl-unpacked-key-timelines-when-afl-found-out

AFL legends dismiss ‘garbage’ Richmond whispers after nightclub fight

Footy legend Nick Riewoldt on Monday night said it was absolute baloney for commentators to try to connect all the club’s off-field misdemeanours to suggest there is a serious issue at the heart of the club or its playing group.

“There will be some people out there who want to make a link between what happened on Saturday night with Bolton and Rioli and … a crumbling of culture, of hunger of humbleness and all those sorts of things — which is complete garbage.” Riewoldt told Fox Footy’s On The Couch.

“I think it’s completely unrelated.”

The series of issues were enough evidence for footy great Gerard Healy to suggest on the Fox Footy show last night that some believe there is a “crumble” happening at Richmond.

Demons legend Garry Lyon said that view was “ignorant”.

“Given what we’ve seen here with Richmond I think it’s reasonable to ponder that the era may be coming to an end,” he said.

“And it’s just as reasonable to know that you’re going to be horribly embarrassed by them when it’s not.”

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/afl-legends-dismiss-garbage-richmond-whispers-after-nightclub-fight/news-story/6964a9c024681714f60675d9e2d4b4ba

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More players caught up in Tigers’ nightclub drama (HeraldSun)
« Reply #34 on: May 11, 2021, 05:45:21 PM »
More players caught up in Tigers’ nightclub drama

The AFL is investigating the nightclub fight involving Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli as it emerged more players were at the CBD venue.

Paywall: https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmond-players-shai-bolton-daniel-rioli-involved-in-nightclub-fight/news-story/0aaf1dce113793951546f9d9813e2e2e

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Majak Daw was among around five AFL players at yo yo nightclub Saturday night. Absolutely no suggestion these additional players were involved in the tigers incident or did anything wrong. AFL integrity aware. More @7NewsMelbourn 6pm

Ratugolea and Narkle were also there. Both Informed cats Sunday. Cats told AFL to cover all bases.

https://twitter.com/TomBrowne7

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Tiger Daniel Rioli training at Punt Road this morning, following the weekend’s nightclub fight which saw him punched in the eye.



Rioli suffering from significant bruising to his right eye/side of his face @9NewsMelb @9NewsAUS


https://twitter.com/AliciaMuling9


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News reports tonight:

The AFL is now investigating the nightclub fight involving two star Richmond players. @TomBrowne7 #7AFL #7NEWS

Watch here: https://twitter.com/7NewsMelbourne/status/1392034430504488962

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The #AFL has tonight launched its own investigation into a night club brawl involving Tigers stars Daniel Rioli and Shai Bolton.

While the club says the pair won't be reprimanded for defending themselves, it concedes they should've walked away. @AliciaMuling9

Watch here: https://twitter.com/9NewsMelb/status/1392032093509726208

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At Yo-Yo nightclub in the city with other AFL players (Narkle, Ratugolea & Daw).

It was mentioned that the thug touched Rioli's GF.

Rioli and Bolton won't be pressing charges. So no police investigation.

AFL will interview both Rioli and Bolton to corroborate their stories.

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Move on nothing to see here AFL bunch of clowns worry about the rules and umpiring.

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Geez I like Nick Riewoldt, one of the rare ex footballer, now commentator who actually resists the temptation to jump on the ‘inventing headlines’ bandwagon like others in the industry. 

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Jack wasn't on AFL360 tonight.

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Speaking on AFL 360 on Tuesday night, Eddie Betts and Adam Treloar were asked if they’d ever felt uncomfortable going out given their public profile and intense coverage.

“Yeah, I definitely have,” Treloar admitted.

“In fact I don’t really enjoy going out, whether it’s with mates for a beer or whatever it is after a game, or maybe on a seven-day break because you always feel like there’s eyes on you and people watching what you’re doing.

“I went out for dinner on Friday with my sister in law and she was having a couple of cocktails and I felt just awkward sitting there because I just didn’t want someone looking over me thinking that was me, having a drink two days before game which obviously I wouldn’t do.

“I think that’s the reality - we know that as players and I definitely know that having transitioned from when I was at the Giants to Collingwood where all eyes are on you and now being an established player I kind of know that eyes are always on you when you’re out so you’ve got to pick and choose what you decide to do I guess.”

Betts agreed, adding he’d enjoyed late nights out with teammates and friends early in his career, before he reached a turning point after a horror night out.

That night, in December of 2009, Betts was arrested in the early hours of a Sunday morning after he and then-teammate Mitch Robinson landed themselves in trouble after a boozy weekend boat cruise.

Betts, then 23-years-old, was issued with a $10,000 fine by Carlton - the maximum allowed under club rules at the time.

“Me and my wife sat down and we spoke about how we’d minimise putting yourself at risk in those situations,” he said on AFL 360, pointing to that night as the flashpoint.

“We kind of said nothing really good happens after 12 or 1 o’clock - when there’s alcohol involved especially - and you always get into some sort of trouble and that’s just me personally speaking on my behalf.

“I decided to make that choice ... It was really, really tough because all the players were still going out enjoying it and going home at 12 to one o’clock, but I reckon it really saved my career to be honest.”

https://www.foxsports.com.au/afl/afl-news-2021-richmond-nightclub-fight-eddie-betts-afl-360-interview-arrested-no-drinking-rule-adam-treloar-shai-bolton-dan-rioli/news-story/96c8df36fa7286e2d5f420d331b73d1d

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Dane Swan on twitter tonight:

How Richmond handled the blue over the weekend is a big reason why players want to play for em, no one wants to leave and Just one of the many reasons they have been so successful In recently. Players don’t have to always be punished to appease the filthy masses that crave it.

https://twitter.com/swandane/status/1392027890137530370

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Why Richmond aren’t punishing Bolton and Rioli (Age)
« Reply #42 on: May 12, 2021, 06:37:38 AM »
Why Richmond aren’t punishing Bolton and Rioli

Jake Niall
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May 12, 2021 — 5.00am


Richmond have chosen not to take any punitive action against Shai Bolton and Daniel Rioli for their part in a nightclub fracas that has cost the club Bolton for two or three matches at a most inconvenient time.

The Tigers’ midfield was already depleted, without Trent Cotchin, Dion Prestia and Kane Lambert for the next couple of weeks at the least. Bolton has been arguably their best-performed player this season and his absence makes their next couple of games challenging; they will still be favourites against the Giants this week, but will be distinct underdogs the following week against the Brisbane Lions at the Gabba.

They should beat Adelaide in round 11, regardless of Bolton’s availability.

That they have decided against a fine or suspension, or even a suspended fine for Rioli and Bolton, will strike many observers as lenient, or of yet another instance of a footy club reflexively standing by “our boys”.

The AFL, which could step in and punish the players, has accepted Richmond’s position.

One way to view Richmond’s judgment - and of any that a club makes on off-field incidents of this kind - is to compare it to the way the AFL assesses incidents on the field and then determines any penalty.

To form their view, Richmond relied heavily on the testimony of the two players and Rioli’s girlfriend, who was subject to what the club described as “inappropriate behaviour” by another man - both verbal and physical - which led to Rioli’s objection and, according to the club, to a punch to the forward’s face under the eye.

Bolton jumped in to help Rioli, and in doing so suffered a wrist fracture that required surgery, an outcome that is worse than any punishment the club might have meted out to the pair.

In the Tigers’ telling, this is a simple, familiar case of player sticks up for girlfriend, and teammate defends teammate.

The non-punishment rests on Richmond’s assessment of a few key factors, the after-hours equivalent to the MRO’s criteria of impact, intent and location.

The first factor was that the players, who might have had a couple of drinks, had not been intoxicated.

Second, the incident was said to have taken place just after midnight, rather than in a dangerous time slot around 2am or later. “Nothing good happens after 1am,” as the clubs often say.

Third, there’s no police involvement, nor legal repercussions - in contrast to Sydney Stack and Callum Coleman-Jones, caught kebab-handed last September by police.

Further, in the Richmond assessment, the players were not the aggressors. They were acting in self-defence.

Finally, Richmond’s position is very much influenced by their view of Rioli and Bolton as decent young men who don’t court trouble and are truthful. Since no CCTV footage has yet surfaced from the city nightclub, and no one has come forward to contradict the players’ story (which happened in the Dustin Martin “chopsticks” incident - patrons in the restaurant essentially backed Dusty), the Tigers have no reason to dispute that version.

That said, the club could have adopted the same philosophy of “strict liability” that the AFL enforces for players who choose to bump - even if they didn’t collect the player high, they are suspended if the victim is concussed or injured.

In this scenario, Richmond would say to Bolton and Rioli: “You’ve chosen to be out late, in a nightspot with alcohol in abundance, even though you weren’t peeed. Trouble has found you, and you’re liable for putting yourselves in harm’s way. So we’re fining/suspending you/putting you on notice and demanding an apology.″⁣

The one argument against leniency that Richmond have considered but not pursued is the question of whether, in those fateful seconds after Rioli was struck, Bolton had another another choice - like the player who chooses to bump. What reasonable alternative did Bolton have?

Could Bolton have walked away from the fight? If one suspects that he had that option (what would Cotchin, Shane Edwards or Jack Riewoldt have done?) it’s harder to judge when you’re not there and have no footage.

Brendon Gale, the club chief executive, acknowledged on Tuesday that it would have been better if the pair had not been out, while adding that they had to be allowed to live their lives.

As one official from a rival club who’s dealt with many such incidents pointed out, these fracas or confrontations are common, but they only become issues if a player gets arrested or, as in Bolton’s case, hurt.

Gale was quick to say on Tuesday that this incident would have no bearing on Bolton’s contract negotiations. Once upon a time at Tigerland, the fact of Bolton being a gun player coming off contract would probably have been grounds for cynicism about a non-penalty.

Richmond aren’t that kind of club any longer.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/why-richmond-aren-t-punishing-bolton-and-rioli-20210511-p57qw1.html?js-chunk-not-found-refresh=true

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According to the Herald Sun, fellow Richmond player Mabior Chol was also at the venue celebrating the birthday of Bolton’s partner, and so was Geelong pair Quinton Narkle and Esava Ratugolea. There is no suggestion they did anything wrong.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/afl/fresh-details-emerge-after-inappropriate-act-sparks-afl-stars-fight/news-story/6e3eee9aae734bcdf26b60e14657d675

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Think we've handled it well, apart from being so coy on how Bolton actually broke his wrist. Seems to be a story there.