Is something wrong in The Tiger Den?

[georgies31]

Playing group and coaches haven't handled it well this year for me.

[georgies31]

"Richmond has won games this year more on talent than system".

'Where's the manic pressure? Tiger players pushed off the ball too easily (Pickett example), Dusty pointing around. Once the opposition breaks through the first line of defence there's no Rioli, Castagna and alike applying pressure. It just shows how easy the opposition can go from one end to the other.

- Matthew Lloyd.

Go to 14 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/video/639149/winning-like-a-car-out-of-control-a-21yo-treating-rivals-like-schoolboys

100% correct our basic fundamentals we're pressure and harassment seen none of it this year.

[MintOnLamb]

According to Caro tonight - "All the assistant coaches are leaving and Adam Kingsley has put his hand up for the Collingwood job".

If this is true then you have to ask why?

Plus it would demotivate players immensely I would imagine

[Andyy]

Not sure about Leppa but the rest were all poached weren't they? It's the standard practice - take the successful team's assistants and bring what they know over.

[one-eyed]

Matthew Rendell on SEN just now reckons the problems are:

1. Richmond are showing signs of arrogance. Getting involved in incidents of the ball giving away free kicks. Add bringing in a first gamer in Samson Ryan to play against Marshall and Ryder.

2. Richmond's smalls have gone missing. Houli and Short aren't as effective of HB as last year. The Tigers have lost that swarming small forward pressure. Butler & Higgins are at other clubs while Castagna hasn't done anything this year and Rioli is in the VFL. Bolton has moved up into the midfield but hasn't regained since returning the same form prior to his incident.

3. Richmond's system was built on role players. They've lost that. Too much reliance on Dusty doing something special.

[rogerd3]

Matthew Rendell on SEN just now reckons the problems are:

1. Richmond are showing signs of arrogance. Getting involved in incidents of the ball giving away free kicks. Add bringing in a first gamer in Samson Ryan to play against Marshall and Ryder.

2. Richmond's smalls have gone missing. Houli and Short aren't as effective of HB as last year. The Tigers have lost that swarming small forward pressure. Butler & Higgins are at other clubs while Castagna hasn't done anything this year and Rioli is in the VFL. Bolton has moved up into the midfield but hasn't regained since returning the same form prior to his incident.

3. Richmond's system was built on role players. They've lost that. Too much reliance on Dusty doing something special.

Some of this may be true but this bloke still thinks we were scared of facing the pies in 2019
He's a clown

[one-eyed]

Jordan Lewis based on Hawthorn in 2016 reckons success gives you comfort as well as confidence. The former can become a negative as it can make you accept defeat more than you would've because you rest on that comfort on past success thinking we've done it before so it doesn't matter if we drop a game. You're not as hungry as you once were.

[Knighter]

Matthew Rendell on SEN just now reckons the problems are:

1. Richmond are showing signs of arrogance. Getting involved in incidents of the ball giving away free kicks. Add bringing in a first gamer in Samson Ryan to play against Marshall and Ryder.

2. Richmond's smalls have gone missing. Houli and Short aren't as effective of HB as last year. The Tigers have lost that swarming small forward pressure. Butler & Higgins are at other clubs while Castagna hasn't done anything this year and Rioli is in the VFL. Bolton has moved up into the midfield but hasn't regained since returning the same form prior to his incident.

3. Richmond's system was built on role players. They've lost that. Too much reliance on Dusty doing something special.

This is spot on

[one-eyed]

Damien Barrett and Nat Edwards on the AFL website:

* Missing Nankervis big time. His importance to them grows by the day. Richmond have been smashed in the hitouts and clearances the past two weeks.

* Dusty down on his usual output and standards.

* Cotch down on form. 8 clangers last weeks. Barrett said he's not playing with the same aura and wonders if we'll find out post-season that Cotch has been carrying an injury. Great leaders step up and the Tigers need him to over the next 8 weeks.

* Tigers are no longer seen as invincible. Others sides believe they can beat them. Suns a "sneaky chance" tonight.

* Richmond need a "high moment". Need a reason to bring out this 'old Richmond' on the big stage but they aren't going to get that tonight against the lowly Suns.

* Barrett added that the game tonight being played at Marvel is going to be interesting after Hardwick's 5 weeks ago went on one of his  "sook rants" this year.

Go to 10 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/news/639726/listen-the-leader-who-s-lost-his-aura-a-tigers-curveball-coming

[one-eyed]

Here's the audio of Matt Rendell's comments about us: https://player.whooshkaa.com/episode?id=846229

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“A TOUCH ARROGANT”: RENDELL CALLS RICHMOND INTO QUESTION

By Andrew Slevison
SEN
1 July 2021

Matt Rendell feels some arrogance has crept into the Richmond side of late.

The Tigers put up one of their most disappointing performances in some time against St Kilda last Friday night, kicking just two goals to go down by 40 points.

Ahead of Thursday night’s Round 16 meeting with the Gold Coast Suns, Rendell analysed Damien Hardwick’s reigning premiership outfit, believing some of the aura surrounding their dynasty has dissipated.

“Richmond, well you know I’ve been on them from day dot, I really like how they play,” he said on SEN’s Dwayne’s World.

“That’s the worst game I’ve seen them play for a long, long time.

“I can’t believe how many kicks and handballs they missed, missed targets. Their swarming offence with numbers tracking the ball, gone.

“I don’t know if they’ve got lazy.

“They look a touch arrogant to me, Richmond at the moment.

“Getting challenged by clubs and getting narky with it. Doing little sly things. I know they’ve been doing that for a while, but it seems to be getting worse.”

Rendell highlighted the debut handed to young tall Samson Ryan against the Saints as an example of that apparent arrogance.

“I just thought playing Samson Ryan, first gamer with hardly any experience, against (Paddy) Ryder and (Rowan) Marshall, I thought that’s arrogant,” he added.

“You had (Mabior) Chol and (Callum) Coleman-Jones. I don’t know what they were thinking, maybe they could expose them in the forward line with three talls. It didn’t work.

“They didn’t get it down there because Ryder and Marshall dominated.”

A “heavy reliance” on Dustin Martin, the absence of key pillars Tom Lynch and David Astbury, and the form of a handful of players including Liam Baker, Jayden Short, Daniel Rioli, Jason Castagna and Shai Bolton, in Rendell’s opinion, has led to a downturn in results for the Tigers.

“Heavy reliance on Dusty to do stuff,” he said further.

“(Trent) Cotchin’s tried his bum off, but they used to have a lot of role players who used to do their job week in, week out. Well, they’ve disappeared.

“Baker was going fantastic, he’s dropped off, as has Short. Bolton since he broke his wrist hasn’t been the same player.

“The other thing is, Lynch is crucial and he’s been missing all that time. Astbury as well, but everyone gets a few injuries.

“They used to have a great little mosquito fleet around them.

“Rioli’s been off the boil since that (nightclub) incident. He hasn’t been super anyway through the year. Castagna has been off the boil, so they’ve lost those smalls who have been really good.”

https://www.sen.com.au/news/2021/07/01/a-touch-arrogant-rendell-calls-richmond-into-question/

[WilliamPowell]

Matthew Rendell on SEN just now reckons the problems are:

1. Richmond are showing signs of arrogance. Getting involved in incidents of the ball giving away free kicks. Add bringing in a first gamer in Samson Ryan to play against Marshall and Ryder.

2. Richmond's smalls have gone missing. Houli and Short aren't as effective of HB as last year. The Tigers have lost that swarming small forward pressure. Butler & Higgins are at other clubs while Castagna hasn't done anything this year and Rioli is in the VFL. Bolton has moved up into the midfield but hasn't regained since returning the same form prior to his incident.

3. Richmond's system was built on role players. They've lost that. Too much reliance on Dusty doing something special.

This is spot on

Yep I agree with the majority of it too

[Francois Jackson]

gee this place turns real quick on the RFC.

Randall correct me if im wrong but didnt he get the arse from somewhere?

His opinion matters little despite one or things being right. For all we know he probably jumped on here before he wrote his article.

Randell is in the same category as Jabba for mine.

"Richmond has won games this year more on talent than system".

'Where's the manic pressure? Tiger players pushed off the ball too easily (Pickett example), Dusty pointing around. Once the opposition breaks through the first line of defence there's no Rioli, Castagna and alike applying pressure. It just shows how easy the opposition can go from one end to the other.

- Matthew Lloyd.

Go to 14 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/video/639149/winning-like-a-car-out-of-control-a-21yo-treating-rivals-like-schoolboys

Lloyd is one of very few i actually dont mind these days, especially when compared to the rest. he is right here, pressure and intensity has dropped off. If we see the same tonight then we can safely say its been a great run but our year is cooked.

[cub]

Too many injuries and disruptions close together has stopped the new ones coming into the system from Jelling getting the confidence and understanding of the game plan and the sixth sense of what their teammates are doing around them. Then it flows through the team....
I remember watching the pre GF training in 2019, mate it was beautiful to watch the confidence and belief in each other and the system was truely amazing, i swear the ball didn't hit the ground. I just knew we were going to win the flag.
So many times Iv'e said its above the shoulders, we just need to get a bit of continuity and the talent is still there. The cohesion will return, Just got to get that happening and lookout.
This would be the sweetest of all if we can pull it off from here!

[eliminator]

Damien Barrett and Nat Edwards on the AFL website:

* Missing Nankervis big time. His importance to them grows by the day. Richmond have been smashed in the hitouts and clearances the past two weeks.

* Dusty down on his usual output and standards.

* Cotch down on form. 8 clangers last weeks. Barrett said he's not playing with the same aura and wonders if we'll find out post-season that Cotch has been carrying an injury. Great leaders step up and the Tigers need him to over the next 8 weeks.

* Tigers are no longer seen as invincible. Others sides believe they can beat them. Suns a "sneaky chance" tonight.

* Richmond need a "high moment". Need a reason to bring out this 'old Richmond' on the big stage but they aren't going to get that tonight against the lowly Suns.

* Barrett added that the game tonight being played at Marvel is going to be interesting after Hardwick's 5 weeks ago went on one of his  "sook rants" this year.

Go to 10 min mark: https://www.afl.com.au/news/639726/listen-the-leader-who-s-lost-his-aura-a-tigers-curveball-coming

Leppa said the same thing weeks ago. He said when he was playing at Brisbane they went downhill quickly after they lost the tag of invincible. Remark about Nank is spot on. No Soldo has hurt us as well.

[georgies31]

I just think it's a combination of all things.Haven’t handled the preason well and rule changes, big drop off in skills and our pressure,to much in our senior players performing badly ,injuries , coaches box hasn't been great to.