Who of our young players are good enough ?

[Diocletian]

Does anyone know when Tas will start compromising the drafts?

Going off what happened with GC & GWS - 2026 they'll get at least a dozen of the best bottom agers for their reserves side that'll enter the VFL   in 2027 and the next year (2027 draft) they'll get the draft concessions for when they enter the AFL in 2028.....

[Simonator]

Well season 2024 is just about done, I doubt there's much more to see in any of the players. Another pre season please.
The concerning thing is it's been 2 seasons since I made this post and tbh there isn't much to get excited about.

Ross - Could be a decent role player / Showed some development but seems injury prone. could be a good role player
Rioli - Could be a decent role player / Likewise to Ross
Ralphsmith - Wont make it IMO / Showed some development but still along way to go IMO, atleast hes trending in the right direction.
Dow - Wont make it IMO, BUT does deserve a block of games this year. / Delist.
Brown - Doesnt seem like he's progressing at VFL level / Showed a bit but need more improvment
Mansell - Wont make it IMO / Showed a bit as well.. atleast he tackles and tries his heart out
Ryan - I think he will stick around due to our complete lack of KPF but again wont make it IMO / Opinion hasnt changed on Ryan. No improvement
Bradtke - havent seen enough / Delisted
Cumberland - Could be a star / Will probably be delisted
Colina - 0 Chance of making it / Delist
Sonesie - Could be a decent role player, could be a star. / Has shown no improvment, if anything regressed. Played out of position or not, you have to be flexible
Banks - Same as Brown / Disappointing, what are his strengths ?
Clarke - Wont make it IMO / ACL
Bauer - Apparently having some success in the backline, havent seen enough / Injury prone
Miller - could be a decent role player / Could be a decent KPD
Young - could be a decent role player / Was really poor before the ACL
Biggie - wont make it imo / delisted
Gibcus - Could be a star / ACL
 Then green, campbell and smith who I havent seen enough of.

Funnily eough Green and Campbell have both shown a lot and I think next year they could have real breakout years.
Point is that we dont have the talent on our list coming through IMO so we must hit the draft hard.

[one-eyed]

According to Montagna on Fox Footy's First Crack:

Players drafted from the top 20 under 25 years of age:

North Melb. 11
Gold Coast  10
GWS          10
Fremantle    9
Hawthorn    8
Richmond   2  (Gibcus, Brown)

[the claw]

Well season 2024 is just about done, I doubt there's much more to see in any of the players. Another pre season please.
The concerning thing is it's been 2 seasons since I made this post and tbh there isn't much to get excited about.

Ross 24yo - Could be a decent role player / Showed some development but seems injury prone. could be a good role player
Rioli 23yo- Could be a decent role player / Likewise to Ross
Ralphsmith 23yo - Wont make it IMO / Showed some development but still along way to go IMO, atleast hes trending in the right direction.
Dow 23yo- Wont make it IMO, BUT does deserve a block of games this year. / Delist.
Brown 21yo - Doesnt seem like he's progressing at VFL level / Showed a bit but need more improvment
Mansell 24yo - Wont make it IMO / Showed a bit as well.. atleast he tackles and tries his heart out
Ryan 24yo - I think he will stick around due to our complete lack of KPF but again wont make it IMO / Opinion hasnt changed on Ryan. No improvement
Bradtke - havent seen enough / Delisted
Cumberland 24yo - Could be a star / Will probably be delisted
Colina  25yo- 0 Chance of making it / Delist
Sonesie 22yo - Could be a decent role player, could be a star. / Has shown no improvment, if anything regressed. Played out of position or not, you have to be flexible
Banks 22yo - Same as Brown / Disappointing, what are his strengths ?
Clarke 21 yo - Wont make it IMO / ACL
Bauer 22yo  - Apparently having some success in the backline, havent seen enough / Injury prone
Miller 25yo  - could be a decent role player / Could be a decent KPD
Young 26 yo- could be a decent role player / Was really poor before the ACL
Biggie - wont make it imo / delisted
Gibcus 22yo - Could be a star / ACL
 Then green 21yo, campbell 20yo  and smith 20yo who I havent seen enough of.

Funnily eough Green and Campbell have both shown a lot and I think next year they could have real breakout years.
Point is that we dont have the talent on our list coming through IMO so we must hit the draft hard.

So many of them are no longer kids and the clock is ticking.

[TigerLand]

Essendon have 19 first rounders on their list. They are garbage.

It's imperative that we have the right development program and also access to the top end talent. Picks in the teens can be useless without top end supporting them. Would Jack have been as good Ina team with Cotch and Dusty? Rance. Possibly not.

It's so important we nail this draft period and do whatever we can to climb up that first round to get access to 2 elite mids.

[the claw]

Essendon have 19 first rounders on their list. They are garbage.

It's imperative that we have the right development program and also access to the top end talent. Picks in the teens can be useless without top end supporting them. Would Jack have been as good Ina team with Cotch and Dusty? Rance. Possibly not.

It's so important we nail this draft period and do whatever we can to climb up that first round to get access to 2 elite mids.

I tend to agree.

Iwas just mucking around throwing a things up in the air in an attempt to get as many good picks as we can. I ended up with something like this and i do not think it unrreasonable. I think i surprised myself.

Okay to start with i thought lets split #1 not sure how, thats the problem but lets say we end up with pick 4 and 9 from the split.
Either that or we just keep pick 1 and get Smillie lol.

Okay
Baker and 33  to freo for 12 and 25. Not unrealistic imo.

D Rioli to the gcs after all they have been sniffing around.Our return on that 6 and 20. think thats fair.

Graham to wce is the talk compo would be pick 40 or thereabouts.
we have an abundance of picks that we can bundle up to a club needing picks for f/s and acadamy players. top 20 pick lets say 19.absolutely on the cards.

Just with that we would end up with
1, 6, 12, 19, 20, 21, ,25, 40,41

[Andyy]

How many 1st round picks do the contenders have this year?

Lions
Swans
Dockers
Port
Dogs
Giants
Blues

[Diocletian]

Great White Elephant really should be undefeated with a percentage of 250+ and going for a fivepeat with their list.....

[Simonator]

Thought I'd re-visit this thread from 2 years. My concerns we real then and they are even more prevalent now.
This list is all of our players under the age of 25. Games played and their age.

Our group from 21-25 has been pretty disappointing imo. most have had 3+ years in the system and showed very little improvement.
I do think if this group had come on a bit stronger then maybe we wouldnt have dived so hard into a rebuild, but thats what happens with average draft picks I suppose.
Even the likes of Mansell and Jack Ross are simply just foot soldiers imo and dont do much for the team.
Ive separated them into 3 categories - Doubtful Possible and Likely to be part of our next winning side.

From my prediction its looking pretty bleak. Many only have a possible because they are still young and could turn it around, but have still showed very little to get excited about. There is no guarantee about our recent draftees either, but they are more promising as they are high picks rather than all these guys we've taken at pick no. 20+

So with this being the case, I think we still have 3-4 drafts of acquiring talent and hopefully some handy free agents/trades along the way to fill out this list. 2030-2033 is a reasonable time frame to be back to finals.

      
                        
47   Hayes-Brown,      0      24yr 9mth         
31   Mansell, Rhyan      53      24yr 8mth         
20   Koschitzke, Jacob.      62      24yr 7mth         
5   Ross, Jack              70      24yr 5mth         
32   Ryan, Samson      23      24yr 2mth         
                        
27   Dow, Thomson      34      23yr 4mth         
13   Ralphsmith, Hugo   50      23yr 3mth         
51   Blight, Jacob R      3      23yr 2mth         
43   Bauer, Jacob R      7      22yr 8mth         
36   Trezise, James R   8      22yr 8mth         
10   Rioli, Maurice      36      22yr 5mth         
40   Sonsie, Tyler      24      22yr         
41   Banks, Sam      21      21yr 10mth         
18   Gibcus, Josh      20      21yr 10mth         
30   Brown, Tom      19      21yr 6mth         
52   Gray, Campbell R   0      21yr 6mth         
                        
23   Clarke, Judson      17      21yr 4mth         
48   Green, Steely      6      21yr 1mth         
49   Smith, Kaleb      4      20yr 2mth         
44   Campbell, Seth R   21      20yr 1mth         
28   McAuliffe, Kane      9      19yr 11mth         
37   Fawcett, Liam      0      19yr 9mth         
26   Faull, Jonty      0      19yr         
31   Trainor, Luke      0      18yr 10mth         
38   Sims, Thomas      0      18yr 9mth         
                        
16   Smillie, Josh      0      18yr 9mth         
34   Armstrong, Harry   0      18yr 8mth         
24   Hotton, Taj      0      18yr 8mth         
                        
22   Lalor, Sam              0      18yr 5mth         
29   Alger, Jasper      0      18yr 2mth         

[skiddymcghee]

What a ridiculous post. How can you possible "rate young players" who haven't played at least 50 games....

Geez, suck it up. The next 3-4 years are going to be very hard to watch from a W/L ratio. But watching the development of players will be very exciting.

No, not all will make it, but with the right support, a lot will and take us back to the pinnacle.

Take a look at Hawthorn and North won't be far behind them. The Club is doing exactly the right thing...

[TigerLand]

Think what highlights more than anything is the lack of games in these players under 24. There is almost of them and so many of them under 36 games. Only 3 of them are more than 36. Rioli, Hugo and Ross.

That is crazy low on experience. 23 players under 36 and majority are single digits. Wild. Gonna be some tough times.

[Hard Roar Tiger]

What a ridiculous post. How can you possible "rate young players" who haven't played at least 50 games....

Geez, suck it up. The next 3-4 years are going to be very hard to watch from a W/L ratio. But watching the development of players will be very exciting.

No, not all will make it, but with the right support, a lot will and take us back to the pinnacle.

Take a look at Hawthorn and North won't be far behind them. The Club is doing exactly the right thing...

This is the only post that matters. They have drafted to win a flag. None of it is safe but the upside is enormous.

I applaud the club’s courage to have a real crack.

[Andyy]

Some of these kids haven't even played yet so I don't know how we can be making any deductions on their playing futures lol

[camboon]

Add the first and second picks for next year .
Then with a few of the players on big dollars moving on and if we can recruit a free agent (in the right age bracket )or two we start to complete the puzzle.
There is always risk when recruiting but the higher the pick the greater chance  you mitigate the risk of a list clogger .
It’s the best plan imo , a lot of pain for the next few years but better than being ninth for the next 30 plus years